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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/27 20:28:19
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Wow, and this wasn't even a feature request; perhaps an Easter Egg?
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/27 21:20:05
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Fortunately it's one of the most obscure bugs ever. The only way I would have ever found this is if I had some kind of spasm or something. A crash is a crash though.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/27 22:06:05
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I actually just found this the other day. My first crash with X1D. I had no idea what I did, just messing around in the PC with the new PC2A and BOOM, white screen and error report. I was definitely clicking around up there though, I remember that much, trying out presets. Good catch!
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/27 22:06:58
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I just tried and couldn't reproduce.
Edit: Nevermind, I was clicking one the screenshots above. :P
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 01:23:36
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 Once again I've been jipped out of a cool new feature! I want my money back! Mine won't crash for nuthin'.  Rock solid here. 1 day and 3 hours later I had to reinstall Sonar for another reason and now, sure enough, it crashes when double clicking the PC header... Shoulda left well enough alone. 
post edited by soens - 2012/03/29 04:51:01
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 02:15:52
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or you can always just insert a midi effect (on clip or in bin) and then drag it to another clip or bin (Just drag, don't drag copy)... This will crash everytime. :)
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 03:04:00
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Well, I have two options with 2 different results.
Here is the situation; I am currently developing my DAW to Win 7 64 from Vista 32. I have the two DAWS on seperate hard drives and "NOT DUAL BOOT". The mother board allows one to hit F10 on power-on, this allows boot to any selected hard drive.
So, I have 4 seperate internal SATA hard drives. One with Vista 32 OS, one with Win 7 64 OS. The other two has no operating systems, just data, sample libaries etc.
The Vista 32 has X1 Expanded (build 425), the last build before the most recent, and it does not happen.
The Win 7 64 has the most uptodate X1 Expanded D and it happens.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 03:47:11
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With me, running X1D Expanded: a double-click in the specified spot causes the crash.
And
The dragging a MIDI FX from one MIDI track's FX bin to another MIDI track's FX bin causes a crash.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 05:57:25
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Yup double click causes crash straight away no hesitation!!!
x1D expanded 64 bit
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 08:25:46
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 09:01:35
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I get that everytime my hand spasms on me...lol!!
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 09:12:43
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This might be significant, as I haven't updated the 32bit version since X1b... - In X1 Producer Expanded ('d' build 535) 64bit it crashes it every time
- In X1 Producer ('b' build 255) 32bit it doesn't crash at all
Trouble is there are two variables here - one is 32bit and the other 64bit; the other is the build version. If it's down to the build version, could it be something to do with when they introduced the ability to scroll the Pro Channel I wonder.
post edited by SteveStrummerUK - 2012/03/28 12:51:23
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 09:28:07
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With me, running X1D Expanded: a double-click in the specified spot causes the crash.
And
The dragging a MIDI FX from one MIDI track's FX bin to another MIDI track's FX bin causes a crash.
Off those two scenarios, I only crash on the first (both - see my follow up) effort(s). The ProChannel double click crashed every time, the MIDI FX drag to another bin does not. PS Follow Up: I posted too soon - I realized after the fact that the first time I tried this it was a copy action, holding CTRL+Drag did not crash, but when I simply did a move action it crashes each and every time.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 09:32:21
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 09:34:07
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Crash verified here as well. My first usage of the built in crash reporter. Yahoo!
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 09:34:58
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So my lesson with the MIDI FX error is to do a Copy action, then just delete the one you no longer want. Should be fixed however so it's time to send a report I guess.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 10:37:19
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Well I was feeling left out, so I tried moving an MFx from one track to another and - Yay! - Crashed! I cannot however under any circumstance crash by double clicking the header of the PC. I have the latest build of X1 d expanded (build 535). I have all Cakewalk modules except for the concrete limiter. Don't have the softube modules. So maybe it's related to the modules installed in PC itself? I am using the 64 bit version of X1, but in VISTA - maybe it's a Windows 7 issue?
post edited by Brando - 2012/03/28 11:48:59
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 11:12:47
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Jind
thomasabarnes
With me, running X1D Expanded: a double-click in the specified spot causes the crash.
And
The dragging a MIDI FX from one MIDI track's FX bin to another MIDI track's FX bin causes a crash.
Off those two scenarios, I only crash on the first (both - see my follow up) effort(s). The ProChannel double click crashed every time, the MIDI FX drag to another bin does not.
PS Follow Up: I posted too soon - I realized after the fact that the first time I tried this it was a copy action, holding CTRL+Drag did not crash, but when I simply did a move action it crashes each and every time.
Thanks for the info. The control cliclk drag is good as a work-around.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 11:19:39
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i have tested this and yes it crashed everytime
x1d
and moving audio when sonar is running crashed it everytime
and some time when moving thing in piano roll it crashes
wow thats not very pro.
hate to say it but not moving things when sonar is playing makes this daw very limited.
id be happy to go back to only worrying about using vvocal when running.
o ya that still happens too, bad buggy vvocal.
but you can work around them, not very enjoyable worrying you might move somthing to fast and frezz up sonar.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 11:47:13
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call me lame,but i know my limitations,i know when to stop the play to move something.yet that doesnt help with the random double click crash i know :(
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 13:01:19
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your limitation or sonars??
cus this worked fine in 8-5
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 13:02:20
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chuckebaby
call me lame,but i know my limitations,i know when to stop the play to move something.yet that doesnt help with the random double click crash i know :(
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 15:33:55
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They ought to code in an 8-bit version of Tron when you double click that area. Of course, instead of Tron throwing disc, it would be Brandon throwing Cakes.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 15:44:03
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I could not crash sonar for the life of me trying to click that area or even everywhere around it as well.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/28 17:58:40
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Just double click a track in console view while something is playing - crash and burn
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/29 10:06:09
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soens
Once again I've been jipped out of a cool new feature! I want my money back! Mine won't crash for nuthin'. Rock solid here.
1 day and 3 hours later I had to reinstall Sonar for another reason and now, sure enough, it crashes when double clicking the PC header...
Shoulda left well enough alone.
Upon further analysis I've discovered the strange phenomina occuring in some projects but no others. This is only in the Inspector View not the CV. More testing required to determine why, so back to the lab.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/29 10:10:07
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My first usage of crash reporter too! I bet Cake has been flooded with this.
Another free update in the future I see...
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/29 11:00:05
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Just double click a track in console view while something is playing - crash and burn
I've never seen that. Just tried in fact - any track while looping several tracks - not a pop or a crackle. Did this for several tracks, nada. Then - I opened up the PC in console view thinking I would try to get the thing to crash by double clicking on the header there instead of from Inspector View which is what I almost always work from - I did so, double clicked several times, then clicked play figuring I would also try that while looping - and as soon as I hit play - boom - BSoD. There is definitely something weird going on - but I don't think it's as simple as the "Easter Egg" theory because it is not universal, although it does sound like the majority of users only have to double click in the magic area of the header to crash. Anyway maybe this will help Cake to track this one down, assuming the plethora of bug reports has drawn their attention to this thread.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/29 16:27:34
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With me too, running X1D Expanded on win7.32 , no additional pc mods: a double-click in the specified spot causes the crash. And The dragging a MIDI FX from one MIDI track's FX bin to another MIDI track's FX bin causes a crash.
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Re:How to crash Sonar X1 Expanded every time
2012/03/29 17:21:11
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st double click a track in console view while something is playing - crash and burn
I tried doing this, but I get no crash when double-clicking a track in the Console View while a project is playing back.
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