AnsweredHow to use V700 win 8 driver in win 10 (also applies to some other Roland drivers)

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/04 00:16:05 (permalink)
Hello
Is this hack works with the vs700 v.201 driver. The v.201 is the latest for the consol only which what I have, while the v.202 is for vs700 R & C combination.
The reason I ask is I noticed that the last line to be modified (under ;; windows 8 line) in the .inf file that you suggested has a higher number than the one provided:
The original: [Roland.NTamd64.7]
The modification: [Roland.NTamd64.6.2]
 
Thanks for your help.
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/14 16:39:48 (permalink)
So new issue. It seems I have no access to my I/O panel for the VS-700. It's not listed and I have no way to turn on fantom power without it. Roland really screwed the pooch with this. I will never trust that company again.
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/14 18:29:03 (permalink)
Under Windows 10? That's working fine for me.

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/14 22:52:31 (permalink)
Was it moved or something then because I don't have it.
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/15 09:33:48 (permalink)
No, everything behaves the same as it did before.
 
Can you explain a bit more about what's happening? Do you have the system basically working, playing back audio and so on? Are you using the console and rack, or just the rack?

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/15 09:44:20 (permalink)
Also, can you explain what you mean by "not listed"? Not listed where?
 
I bet this is something fairly simple that we can work out.

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/15 11:41:09 (permalink)
I use to have a VS-700 tab in my Utilities which should bring up the I/O Editor which could also be opened via the I/O Control button on the console. That button no longer works and I no longer have the I/O Editor as an option inside Sonar in my Utilities to turn it on. Tried to see if it was an actual application on the computer as well that I could turn on outside of Sonar but there is nothing there.
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/15 11:49:59 (permalink)
Ah, that's a bit of a clue actually. There *is* an application, the "VS700 I/O Editor", which can be launched outside of Sonar. I'm guessing that if you don't have that installed, you don't have the internally launch-able one either.

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/15 11:52:05 (permalink)
Sounds to me like you are missing both the I/O editor, and the "control surface plugin".
 
They're both downloadable from here:
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/S...Product/V-Studio%20700
 

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/15 11:52:05 (permalink)
Sounds to me like you are missing both the I/O editor, and the "control surface plugin".
 
They're both downloadable from here:
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/S...Product/V-Studio%20700
 

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/10/16 01:21:24 (permalink)
Will give those a try and check back in. Thanks.
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/11/06 14:17:01 (permalink)
V700c up and running on Windows 10!
Thanks for the code hack.
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/11/06 19:06:15 (permalink)
Apparently Roland is taking credit for the modified drivers now. I emailed them asking once again and they sent me this:
 

We sent a request for updated drivers to our corporate Roland/ BOSS headquarters in Japan. They have informed us that due to the age of the product, they will not longer be designing drivers for the product unfortunately.
However, we designed an informal workaround here in Product Support that got a VS-700 running on Windows 10. The modified driver, as well as install instructions, are attached.
Please note that this is not a formal driver release. We cannot guarantee compatibility and we don't have operational support if the driver does not work on your computer unfortunately.
Kind regards,
Roland Product Support

 
What a bunch of scumbags.
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/11/06 19:14:07 (permalink)
Well many people won't buy a Volkswagen again, and many may apply the same sort of thinking to Roland. Too bad so sad...

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Re: How to use V700 win 8 driver in win 10 (also applies to some other Roland drivers) 2015/11/26 10:39:12 (permalink)
Every time I read this thread I start thinking....maybe I should try this, But then I tell myself...... Hey stupid...Everything is running fine now, Why ruin it? I just feel like I would be poking a bee's nest.
 
 But then, If I did the update I would be able to get one of them fancy touch screens I think.

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Re: How to use V700 win 8 driver in win 10 (also applies to some other Roland drivers) 2015/11/28 01:58:54 (permalink)
I only have the VS-700 Console and this worked great for me when I used the vs700c_w81d_v201 driver and modified it by pasting the code below in the inf file per dustriplin's advice above. 
 
I also would like to point out to those that are using the Mackie control profile in "controller/surface" to nix that and download this file I'll link below which will put the 700c profile back in as an option.  This gets you almost all the functionality back that you may have had in sonar X3 or earlier.


Apparently I can't post a link right now but maybe this will work...just remove the arrows.

<------www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013201/V-Studio-700-Control-Surface-Plug-in-version-1-2-update#----->
 
 
Code to past for Console only driver support

;---------------------------------------------------------------;
[Manufacturer]
%MfgName%=Roland,NTamd64.6.2,NTamd64.10
;[ControlFlags]
;ExcludeFromSelect=*
[Roland]
;; Windows7 - Windows XP 64
;; not supported
[Roland.NTamd64.10]
;; Windows8
%RDID0088DeviceDesc%=RDID0088Install, USB\VID_0582&PID_00FC ; VS-700C
[Roland.NTamd64.6.2]
;; not supported
;===============================================================;
 
 
post edited by tkarman - 2015/11/28 02:12:28
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/11/30 04:53:18 (permalink)
Excepted the Channel Strip Control where the match between what you see on screen and what you have on the CSC is a mess, it works well (VS-700C only) with the dustriplin hack. Thanks John T, amitte and dustriplin for this and shame on Roland.
post edited by Manolo - 2015/11/30 05:10:42

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/12/03 10:17:09 (permalink)
As far as I'm concerned, this will be the last Roland product I buy. I was planning on getting a V-Drum TD-30KV this year too. I'll be looking more into Yamaha and Alesis instead. If they refuse support for a flagship product regardless of their relationship with the DAW it was made for, who knows how long they'd support their other products.
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/12/04 02:36:49 (permalink)
TerraSin said : I use to have a VS-700 tab in my Utilities which should bring up the I/O Editor which could also be opened via the I/O Control button on the console. That button no longer works and I no longer have the I/O Editor as an option inside Sonar in my Utilities to turn it on.
 
I had the same issue, it was easy to fix, as follows:
 
I then installed Sonar Platinum and fired it up.
Most of the Console worked fine, ie. faders,transport buttons, arm/solo/mute buttons.
However, the I/O Control button didn’t work and I was unable to set the input levels on the 700R, from the Console. When I pressed SHIFT-I/O Control, I got an error message about midi devices already in use.
I booted up my Win7 OS and compared the enabled midi devices in Sonar with those on my Win81 OS.
I found one device that should NOT be enabled, IO (VS-700). The one that should be enabled is IO MIDI (VS-700).
I unchecked IO (VS-700), restarted Sonar, and it all works like a dream.

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/12/15 18:46:28 (permalink)
Well this is good news indeed.
I guess for a while I don't really have a need to upgrade to Windows 10 but I always feel a little bit weird using older operating systems. I assume they will support 8.1 for a good long time?
 
I wonder if Roland will authorize this as an official work around?
 
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/12/25 01:52:09 (permalink)
I can't see to disable driver signatures...I get to this point:
 
After it restarts again, you will be given a list of startup settings. The one we are looking for is “Disable driver signature enforcement”. To choose the setting, you will need to press the F7 key.
-Your PC will then reboot and you will be able to install unsigned drivers without any error message.
 
The numbered options show up, but when I type F7 (or 7), nothing happens. If I hit "Enter," nothing happens. The screen stays up and I have to hard boot to get back to Windows. Any clues?

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/12/25 12:03:25 (permalink)
Mr. A., anxious to see how you make out after this process. Please comment with your outcome. Thank you.

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/12/25 15:45:12 (permalink)
I just tested the VS-100 and everything worked like it should in Windows 10.  This made me very happy.  Maybe next week I will update my desktop and see if my VS-700 C & R will work too.  But I have to wait to finish my current project and get a little braver.



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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/12/26 14:12:29 (permalink)
 
I can't see to disable driver signatures...I get to this point:
 
After it restarts again, you will be given a list of startup settings. The one we are looking for is “Disable driver signature enforcement”. To choose the setting, you will need to press the F7 key.
-Your PC will then reboot and you will be able to install unsigned drivers without any error message.
 
The numbered options show up, but when I type F7 (or 7), nothing happens. If I hit "Enter," nothing happens. The screen stays up and I have to hard boot to get back to Windows. Any clues?

 
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Unusual error.....
 
Just for reference, I used this URL to figure out how to disable the driver signatures, it has pictures which I desperately needed to figure things out  :
http://www.top-password.com/blog/how-to-disable-driver-signature-enforcement-in-windows-10-8-7/
 
 
... did some poking around about your error and found these url's:  They are for windows 8 but they are the only things I found in my quick search
 
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-performance/unable-to-use-7-f7-or-any-other-keys-to-choose-the/37def703-4cd8-46e1-8074-8e8f3f2e0e46
 
https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/68543-disable-driver-signature-enforcement-in-windows-8-1
 
In short, from my readings, there can be problems with Microsoft Surface II and you might need to follow the first URL to figure that out.   
 
The second URL, down in the comments section talks about a problem with a keyboard that has "Action Keys".  If on the keyboard you have "Action Keys" , they are keys that adjust brightness/music controls/volume controls that share a key with the F keys. With Action Keys enabled, you might have to press Function + F7 to get the standard F7 behavior. Meanwhile the F7 key without the Function key might be doing other things.  You can also disabled the Action Keys in the BIOS and this might help you be able to Disable Driver Signature Enforcement.
 
I also read somewhere else where someone needed to make sure and press the f7 fast enough for it to accept the change...
 
Anyway, hope somewhere in this is something that helps!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2015/12/31 14:09:27 (permalink)
Hello John T,
 
Seasons greetings brother.
I hoping you can provided some assistance with getting my VS700C control surface to work with windows 10. I recently upgraded from windows 7 to 10 and for the life of me I just cant get the control surface to work as it use to in windows 7. I followed all the information provided but the surface only works in mackie control and only the transport buttons work. most of the other controls does not work and if they do they represent something entirely different to the command. eg if i press the console button to go into console view it adds an audio track. Please any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Really don't know what i'm doing wrong
 
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2016/01/03 09:40:47 (permalink)
Has Mr. Anderton made any progress on this "work around"?

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2016/01/03 21:59:00 (permalink)
I just noticed his sig on the forum says it's up for sale so I'm thinking no. 
 
I just did the upgrade to Windows 10 and after some none related hic ups and some very limited testing, the workaround seems to have worked for me.  I forgot to uninstall the Win 7 drivers before I updated to the only additional step I had was to uninstall the old drivers first.  I used the uninstall exe file in the modified Win 8 drivers I used.
 
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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2016/01/04 08:48:48 (permalink)
I am interested to know if you get it working Jayson.  Keep us informed, please



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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2016/01/05 08:07:34 (permalink)
I made the jump last week from Windows 7 Ultimate x64 to Windows 10 Pro x64 on my main PC. I did a test on my laptop before (my previous post in this thread).
 
Everything fine with Sonar X2 Producer. I just modified the RDIF1088.INF with dustriplin intructions, disabled the drivers signature with the command prompt, launched the setup.exe, turned on the VS-700C and enabled the drivers signature.

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Re: v700 and Windows 10 2016/01/23 21:38:49 (permalink)
I've tried to follow the instructions exactly, altering the .inf and booting into the mode that allows unsigned driver installs, but my installer stalls out at the "Ready to install the driver" screen and the "Next" button never goes clickable.
 
Does anyone know if there is something different that has to be done to the .inf with the latest version of Win10?
 
 
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