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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/24 18:00:14
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BassDaddy
If you can buy it in the Custom Shop you can use gear credits on sale or not. And you can use jam points. Unless they say they are not usable on a particular promotion. So, yes. But sometimes no. Maybe. Starting to understand the OP yet?
Since the change was made to allow JamPoints even on items that were on sale, it has been rare (I believe only once or twice if I forgot something?) that JamPoints were not usable on something we sell. I definitely understand the OP and pointed out something they did not know - that there was the option to buy that very product with credit card/PayPal and without having to bother with Gear Credits. So in that respect, yes I understand OP because they were unaware of a simpler way to make their purchase. This information has been relayed in order to make sure that is more of a rare occurrence in the future.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/24 19:45:45
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As for me it is just the fact that there is cash, jampoints, and gear credits involved that makes it confusing. I understand gear credits, spend your money now and buy more with it later. If jampoints could be applied to everything they would not be as confusing and I think that is probably a good answer. Just make everything apply to everything and it wont be so confusing. Jampoints=appreciation, discount for being a good customer. Gear Credits=money you buy so it will be worth more when you spend it. Cash=the balance. Allow everything to apply to everything and the problem will be solved. As it is, there is a feeling that IK is trying to confuse the customer. Now... I don't believe IK means to do that but the confusion makes it seem that way sometimes. I don't mean to slander or accuse, just point out how some may feel about it.
As far as the i"crap", I like the istuff. I believe that in the next 10 to 15 years there will be a mass move first to the laptop but then quickly to the tablet and phablet. The younger people will fully embrace making music on the iPad and iPhone before the older crowd. People who have been producing music for decades will stay with the desktop/laptop DAW but it WILL change! The tablets ten years from now will likely be something we cannot now imagine... or maybe it will be something in between but I am convinced that iAPPs are the future, like it or not.
YMMV.
IK certainly should smooth things out... IMO.
J
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/24 22:45:16
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Fleer
Where did I leave my harpsichord?
I get it now. Lurch played a harpsichord. It took me about 24 hours. I can't remember the noose yet.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/24 23:29:25
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"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/24 23:31:33
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Mesh
Yes, speedos definitely won't cut it......it's currently 75F here, and Florida isn't what its cracked up to be.
It's dynamite season over here.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/25 07:38:34
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☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2016/03/25 11:33:57
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/25 08:51:35
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As for me it is just the fact that there is cash, jampoints, and gear credits involved that makes it confusing. I understand gear credits, spend your money now and buy more with it later. If jampoints could be applied to everything they would not be as confusing and I think that is probably a good answer. Just make everything apply to everything and it wont be so confusing. Jampoints=appreciation, discount for being a good customer. Gear Credits=money you buy so it will be worth more when you spend it. Cash=the balance. Allow everything to apply to everything and the problem will be solved. As it is, there is a feeling that IK is trying to confuse the customer. Now... I don't believe IK means to do that but the confusion makes it seem that way sometimes. I don't mean to slander or accuse, just point out how some may feel about it.
As far as the i"crap", I like the istuff. I believe that in the next 10 to 15 years there will be a mass move first to the laptop but then quickly to the tablet and phablet. The younger people will fully embrace making music on the iPad and iPhone before the older crowd. People who have been producing music for decades will stay with the desktop/laptop DAW but it WILL change! The tablets ten years from now will likely be something we cannot now imagine... or maybe it will be something in between but I am convinced that iAPPs are the future, like it or not.
YMMV.
IK certainly should smooth things out... IMO.
J
Yeah I have no problem with the "iCrap" either and feel that people who whine about it obviously haven't explored what you can do with it. Mobile devices are just mini computers and there is no reason you can't use them to make music on the go. And I absolutely love AmpliTube and ARC2, especially ARC2 which has transformed my whole audio listening experience from the ground up. The only problem I have with IK is the confusing purchase system which, regardless of the fact that you can bypass it and just purchase with a credit card, still envelopes the website in a thin cloud of confusion for me. I guess I'm a fan of keeping things simple wherever possible.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/29 16:48:43
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After my gripes, I just wanted to say thanks for the free stuff and points/credits for the 20th anniversary. It made me get around to downloading TRacks and Amplitube. Lots of cool free stuff there.
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TheMaartian
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/29 17:31:19
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Mesh
Yes, speedos definitely won't cut it......it's currently 75F here, and Florida isn't what its cracked up to be.
You wouldn't happen to remember Clearwater Beach's attempt a couple of decades ago to ban "anal cleft" on their beaches? That was hilarious!
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Fleer
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/29 23:00:19
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"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/30 01:05:55
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/30 09:19:23
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☄ Helpfulby TheMaartian 2016/03/30 10:42:42
Fleer
Anal cleft. LOL!
I used to compose music in the anal cleft. Don't ask me how it turned out.
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Mesh
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/30 10:11:18
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Sorry, I read that as compost......probably those inspirational IK prunes tunes at work.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/30 10:40:24
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Prunes are a persistent and insidious entity. Compost does describe it pretty well though.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/30 14:43:25
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Ain't ya glad I resurrected this post! ;P
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BobF
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/30 15:07:16
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☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2017/07/02 16:34:08
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2016/03/30 22:38:11
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☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2016/03/31 09:11:17
... to pieces. Or chunks. Or ...
"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2017/07/02 03:37:56
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I have an issue. I bought a keyboard controller for 79$ just so I could get Sampletank 3 for free. Problem is, I hate the controller, but I still want to at least keep the free software (Sampletank 3). Can I sell the controller without providing the buyer with the serial # and such? In other words, can I at least recoup the cost of my lousy controller I paid way too much for? It's really worth like 29$ It's the I-Rig MINI which works with Android. Utter piece of crap. I-crap.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2017/07/02 08:16:16
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2017/07/02 14:21:35
Sibelius19
I have an issue. I bought a keyboard controller for 79$ just so I could get Sampletank 3 for free. Problem is, I hate the controller, but I still want to at least keep the free software (Sampletank 3). Can I sell the controller without providing the buyer with the serial # and such? In other words, can I at least recoup the cost of my lousy controller I paid way too much for? It's really worth like 29$ It's the I-Rig MINI which works with Android. Utter piece of crap. I-crap.
I don't believe you have an issue here. In all fareness you ordered an item that cost $79,00 for the sole purpose of getting Sampletank 3. As far as I can see it, you bought Sampletank 3 for $79,00. If you never look at the keyboard controller again,you have achieved your goal of getting Sampletank 3 at the price you wanted or could afford. Children always want to have their cake and eat it too. You have to think before you buy anything. You are ahead. Just leave it at that.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2017/07/02 14:08:25
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I spend a lot more than you on ST3. So be happy and make some good music with it. I end up using it more than KU10 in my production. Imho it has a lot of useable sound. I like to use it's bass, mallets, guitar, percussion, organs occational drums for my production.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2017/07/02 14:32:14
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How one feels about IK's shopping experience may be a generational split. If you're over 40, most of your life's retail transactions have been simple: choose a product, hand over the money. No games.
Like most consumers, I prefer that model. It's worked for thousands of years, serving every market from Wal-Mart to your pot dealer to buying a book on Amazon. Vendors who think they can improve the process by re-inventing the wheel do so at their own peril.
this. Especially in a market where there are competing guitar sims and effects. I'm sure the IK stuff is as good as the competition, yet I have never bought anything from them. My loss I suppose!
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BobF
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2017/07/02 14:47:25
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I don't find the cash/JP/GC trio all that confusing. And I'm well over 50. If you mentally associate JP with the online store, and GC with Custom Shop it's pretty easy.
I think JP and GC both provide a way to get decent discounts on stuff you're planning to buy anyway.
I'm sure there are plenty of things I find confusing that other folks find simple. We just have to match ourselves up with whatever/whoever makes us the most comfy, giving us what we believe to be good value in return for our dollars and time.
There are two things I WOULD lobby IKM for changes to. One is having to pay to reenable downloads. This one isn't huge for me as I keep multiple copies of installation media. The other is the license keys. I would LOVE to have Waves style licensing where I could put my keys on a generic USB stick to freely move from machine to machine, also avoiding reactivations when my machine config changes.
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2017/07/02 16:05:37
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Sibelius19
I have an issue. I bought a keyboard controller for 79$ just so I could get Sampletank 3 for free. Problem is, I hate the controller, but I still want to at least keep the free software (Sampletank 3). Can I sell the controller without providing the buyer with the serial # and such? In other words, can I at least recoup the cost of my lousy controller I paid way too much for? It's really worth like 29$ It's the I-Rig MINI which works with Android. Utter piece of crap. I-crap.
I suppose if your buyer only wants a mini keyboard, and doesn't expect any software, you can make a clean sale. I tossed my mini in a drawer, and will probably give it away... But getting $300 worth of software for the price of a cheap piece of gear? Priceless!!! 
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2017/07/02 20:33:15
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Mini keyboards can be handy for key switching. I use a AKAI 25 to supplement my NI S61. 61 keys is not enough for some key switched instruments. The mini keyboard is transposed to the range of the key switches so all 61 keys on the main board are available for "playing" The action and key size do not matter in this application.
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Pragi
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Re: I finally give up on IK Multimedia
2017/07/03 22:42:33
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The first thing I have to say that I like many instruments of IK a lot: - Amplitube-the Fender Amps -ST 3 ,which I got for the price of a mini keyboard. Has every sample and more I can think of in it´s library - the tape echo , most compressors and the stealth limiter are awesome. - the group buys are a good possibility to save money. - the support team is quick and reöliable answering questions in the IK forum But the authorisation and installation process of some products like stealth limiter and tape echo is ........... indescribably.  Don´t understand why IK does not change it cause it has been criticized many times . It does not fit to the attributes of IK mentioned above. regards to michael of IK
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