Between the cost of entry in the market (as pointed out at so many levels above), the low number of relative users, the fact that MACs are becoming more and more PC-like as time goes on (but still somehow with less flexibility), and more and more vendors seeming to pull out of the MAC desktop/laptop market in preference to the iOS market, which is great but not a suitable replacement, I simply can't see Cakewalk going this direction.  Further, the likes of Bootcamp basically make it non-conversation since that effectively makes a MAC a PC, not "like" one. 
 
Except for Keni (who it sounds like didn't "choose" to use a Mac), I really can't understand the number of people I hear of who buy a Mac just to run 90% Windows software on it either through Bootcamp or Parallels or something.  We actually had a client come in last week whose husband talked her into a Mac last year - she wasn't using the Mac side of things, only needing the Windows software for her business life - she simply had a hard time using the Mac OSX side for anything, so it was effectively a very expensive PC.  She bought a Lenovo (one of the better-built PC manufacturers these days), transferred all her stuff, and is ready to get rid of the Mac laptop at this point.
 
Just a few thoughts.

joakes

Also, for the "new" Mackie and Behringer mixers, sure its interesting, but give me a real slider anyday than a finger swipe. And the iPads are only control devices not the mixers, which lets face it, do the majority of the work.
I await to see your designs for integrating USB and HDMI.........

Digitech have a pedal board that you programme (that is the operative word) using your iPad. But when you're using the thing live as a glorified stomp box, then i would not like my iPad any where near my clumsy feet.

I've worked with these devices, so have some real-world comments. I was very surprised at the Mackie mixer interface. They made everything big so it's easy to use - you can actually mix something like a coffeehouse act or small ensemble with it, and it's not really intended to be used for much more than that. They did a very good job on the UI.
 
The DigiTech iPB-10 never sold very well but I think DigiTech made a huge mistake with the marketing. You do not need to have the iPad in the unit. You can program it with the iPad and have your sounds and stomps ready to go, then leave the iPad at home and then the iPB-10 just becomes a regular pedalboard. It deserved to do much better than it did - it sounded great and was very capable.

I have to disagree. Pro Tools is now available on Windows. If the Mac was that dominant, why would they spend the money and direct their resources to make it available on the PC/Windows platform?
 
If you sort through the archives, you'll find that Cakewalk DID try to port SONAR over, but found that it would take a major rewriting of the code to make it work. They did not have the resources to devote to such a large project and abandoned it.
 
Quite frankly, I'd rather them concentrate on what they know and do it the best they can, rather than water themselves down. We all know that there are bugs that haven't been addressed in many of the product being out - can you imagine if they had to further divide up their resources?
 
-Bruce

I like the tonality of this thread but I find it really strange. Cakewalk writes a version of Sonar for OSX? Apple writes a version of Logic X for a Windows? This, to me, seems really bizarre at this point in time.
 
My take is this: I've been watching the videos and tutorials for Logic X and I must admit that I would really like to give it a workout, to the point where, knowing it is only available on OSX, I've been toying with purchasing a Mac. I would expect my OSX brothers and sisters to do the opposite or run Sonar in bootcamp.
 
OTH: I'd really like to see a version of Sonar for OS-2. 
 
Regards,

Linux all the way for me, only way that would happen is if Sonar goes open source, however there's more chance of abandoning PC and going Apple than that (so zero then). Cheers...

Another, shall we say, "interesting" Mac experience:
 
http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Craig-Anderton-s-Sound-Studio/Has-Apple-Gone-Too-Far-This-Time/m-p/36280055#U36280055
 
If Sun Microsystems is an "unidentified developer," I wonder if Cakewalk would be considered similarly.

Bristol_Jonesey
I would hate to see resources being channeled away from what I consider to be their core business - improving the current product line by fixing bugs, adding new tools and improving workflows.
 
If the decision was made to start writing it all so it would run on OSX, we Windows users would be waiting for a long time before any notable improvements fell our way.
 
For me it's a non-starter

+1
 
Of course, that would be a viable strategy if Cake wants to become the Ashton-Tate of the DAW industry.

They've probably patched it now so you can't do it :) Cheers Craig..

Well, can I ask apple to make a logic version for windows? LOL
 
Well, you can use Sonar on a Mac...There's a software called Bootcamp.
Moreover,all vst's just have a windows version.that's not the case for mac.
 
In fact I just think macfans just use GarageBand, Logic (because of the logo) or Protools and just wouldn't bother with something else.

The thread had been answered the week of the Gibson announcement.

I didn't mention it before:
 

Brad Russell
The point is not that I got a Mac. The point is...The WORLD is getting a Mac. 

What a troll.
Well....In the US, apple market share is 10%...And since the US is one of the countries with Apple's biggest market share (they're rich and American),I wouldn't consider "everyone" is buying a Mac.
More seriously, the WORLD is getting Android....Why not sonar on Android? (There's iPad/Iphones, I know,but hey, there's a lot more Android smartphones!!)...Don't tell me,I know the answer.
 

Brad Russell
The point is not that I got a Mac. The point is...The WORLD is getting a Mac. 

I also don't agree with that. The market share of apple is not as high as generally supposed. And by this measure, there a surely only a few Apple-user producing music in a semi- or professional way. I can't believe that it is worth to re-program such a complex software for such a minority. Look at Magix with Samplitude. They wouldn't stop the process if it's worth to go on.

I think that Apple has just a better marketing and a status like a "Must have". That's all. Everywhere in the world people want to save money, but with apple the pay gladly a lot more for what other can do for less money. I don't know why.
 
Timo
 

joden

Anderton

Bogman
 
Interesting thread - excuse me a minute... "Hey Cakewalk, what are you doing about all these tablets and stuff?"

Cakewalk released their first iPad app last year and it's pretty cool. It was kinda flakey at first, but version 1.1 is a whole lot better.

Pity they cannot do something of a cut-down for iPad with Sonar itself.

Something I find kinda funny is:
most of us is using at minimum a 4 cores x86 processor with Terabytes of HDDs, both normal and SSD, audio interfaces(Thunderbird, USB3, Firewire). And we all scratch our heads dealing with latency ,dropouts , HDD speed, plugins CPU consumption,etc...
 
What about tablets? Well..Can you make a pro record with 32GB class 4 microSD,a quad ARM processor and 1GB RAM, a "may be" compatible stereo USB audio interface, a 9 inches screen and a cheesy OS (Sorry, on iPad,you also can't use microSDs and I'm not sure about USB)
 
Someone stops me laughing...
 

Personally I can't wait for them to PIMP  Windows sound recorder..

Already have FL ;-) Glad you agree with me re your thinking. Accepting a problem is halfway to sorting it!