Cactus Music
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Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
I'm not paying 1 cent for another DAW. Possibly never. I have the best DAW and it will still run 10 years from now,,, I'll be 74..
Actually let me add that I will pay for a new DAW if that new DAW is the res-erected Sonar. I'm more optimistic than ever. Sonars code is priceless and we WILL see it return.
So like many of you I kicked the tires on a bunch of DAW's, for me it was just something I do from time to time to re confirm my loyalty to Sonar. And reading all the latest posts is also a great insight into what is what. I've learned more about these other DAW's in the last 2 days than I have in the last decade.
Bottom line- Every DAW I either demoed or looked at on web pages was like going back to Sonar 8.5 GUI and midi editing wise.
So I see it as a huge waste of time and money to even think about a different DAW, Some are pretty cheap, like Mix Craft but what am I getting? I'm getting a DAW that is like Sonar 8.5.... I still have 8.5 so why would I spend $100 to buy what I have?
I know some of you are all worked up and feel this is a good time to buy into an alternative while they are offering deals, But those deals will probably always be there in one way or another. And ask yourself this.. why would I want to stop using Sonar? You already have what you want.
The bottom line is Sonar 23.10 is years ahead of all these alternatives as far as my brief foray showed me. I guess it comes down to what tools you were using. But for me MIDI editing and the new PVR is just something I cannot be without. None of the DAW's I tried, including Cubase are as advanced as Sonar for using VST's and midi. Even Home Studio is more advanced than most these DAWs and it was a bargain @ $50.
So I have 5 new Daw's installed on my computer some make noises, some expire in 14 days and some 30. I'll poke around a bit more later but right now I've got work to get done so I'm back to Sonar until I'm feeling the urge to explore again.
Here's to a long road ahead using Sonar.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/25 23:50:29
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I am staying but exploring! In fact I am on a break in the middle of recording on sonar
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:00:53
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I'm not a professional.....just a hobbyist, so I'm in no rush to use something else. I've been essentially using nothing but Cakewalk/Sonar since the late 80s. I'm probably only using about 10% of the capabilities of this program as is.
As long as I'll be able to continue to install and use the program if I have to replace any hardware, or want to build a new machine...I'll use it. (At least until it either gets broken by something, or just gets really out of date)
The thing is, I've actually gotten to a point recently, where I'm satisfied with both Sonar and the third party items I have.....for the last year, for the first time, I haven't felt the need or desire for any shiny new plugins....because I feel that what I have does everything I need....
Of course...if a really great deal on something comes along.....well.... ;-)
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:02:49
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cakewalk has screwed all of us and if you think they care
pink rabbits do exist
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:07:58
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☄ Helpfulby Cactus Music 2017/11/26 00:19:00
I'll probably keep my Sonar for at least another 15 years. What will another DAW offer me that i don't already have? To tell the truth I'll probably retire with Sonar, and if I have to use another format in another studio I can just export all tracks to wav files.
Sonar is far too advance to abandon this platform while it's working perfectly just because the company closed down.
Would you sell a vintage vehicle when you can still buy parts just because the company went of business? I don't think so.
Sonar is still light years way ahead of the competition to switch, as long as you can load Windows 7 & Windows 10 it'll be another 30 years before this program can be made obsolete.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:09:18
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☄ Helpfulby Cactus Music 2017/11/26 00:19:22
ibediggin
cakewalk has screwed all of us and if you think they care
pink rabbits do exist
Bitter much? I'll be on SONAR for a long time to come. The DAW, lest we forget, is a just tool for capturing music. I didn't get up this morning thinking, "I'll go play with my DAW today!". I thought "I wonder if a shaker might fill out yesterday's perc track". I have never thought: "if only my DAW had some more bells 'n whistles...yeh, then I could finish that third verse."
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:13:13
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I'm a gonna keep using it but I am going to get into something else... I may just end up getting every other DAW just to get the full options that I have with SPlat! lol
Hay look, Somethings are not locked in stone... lol 3/18/2019
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:14:11
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I will stay with Sonar Platinum as my main DAW until it no longer functions which will probably be for some time.
I have owned MixBus 4, Reaper, & Studio One 3 Professional for some time.
Don't like Studio One.
I use Reaper for multi-track drum timing editing. Great functionality for that, but don't like it for anything else.
MixBus is a good stem summing environment.
Sonar has the feel and workflow that I'm most comfortable with simply because I have used it the most, ever since the 1st Sonar offering in the early 2000s.
Taking advantage of the Black Friday pricing, I purchased Mixcraft 8 Pro Studio and Cubase 9.5 Pro. Haven't had much time with Mixcraft and none with Cubase as I am waiting on an eLicenser from Sweetwater. So I am not sure if I will be wowed by those. Time will tell.
That said, I will use SPLAT until I can't.
By that time, another company, the employees, or some miracle may happen and the project known as Sonar resumes development.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:16:13
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I'm also worried about the forum going away and having no help! :(
Hay look, Somethings are not locked in stone... lol 3/18/2019
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:18:35
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:18:39
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I'm off to see the Wibble, the wonderful Wibble of Wobble
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:18:40
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I intend to stay with Sonar for as long as possible. I even wanted to get an upgrade to Platinum from Professional, and especially a copy of Rapture Pro and Z3TA+2, somehow. If I were a professional studio, I would need to consider various options, but as a hobbyist and someone who has spent quite a lot of time studying the software the past few months, I really like Sonar. (A few relevant thoughts from another thread about kicking the tires/tyres.)
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:18:55
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I just really started to get the hang of Sonar so I am in until it doesn't work anymore. I am just a Hobbyist and am in no rush to find another. Even the thought of starting over is a big downer. Was in the mist of building a new computer when all of this happened. Watching all the videos about different DAWs in enough to make your head spin and then what happens if you pick the wrong one and this happens all over again? I do want to say Thank you to bitflipper for all the great videos attachments he posted in the form.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:22:40
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☄ Helpfulby Cactus Music 2017/11/26 00:38:51
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I'm not paying 1 cent for another DAW. Possibly never. I have the best DAW and it will still run 10 years from now,,, I'll be 74..
Actually let me add that I will pay for a new DAW if that new DAW is the res-erected Sonar. I'm more optimistic than ever. Sonars code is priceless and we WILL see it return.
So like many of you I kicked the tires on a bunch of DAW's, for me it was just something I do from time to time to re confirm my loyalty to Sonar. And reading all the latest posts is also a great insight into what is what. I've learned more about these other DAW's in the last 2 days than I have in the last decade.
Bottom line- Every DAW I either demoed or looked at on web pages was like going back to Sonar 8.5 GUI and midi editing wise.
So I see it as a huge waste of time and money to even think about a different DAW, Some are pretty cheap, like Mix Craft but what am I getting? I'm getting a DAW that is like Sonar 8.5.... I still have 8.5 so why would I spend $100 to buy what I have?
I know some of you are all worked up and feel this is a good time to buy into an alternative while they are offering deals, But those deals will probably always be there in one way or another. And ask yourself this.. why would I want to stop using Sonar? You already have what you want.
The bottom line is Sonar 23.10 is years ahead of all these alternatives as far as my brief foray showed me. I guess it comes down to what tools you were using. But for me MIDI editing and the new PVR is just something I cannot be without. None of the DAW's I tried, including Cubase are as advanced as Sonar for using VST's and midi. Even Home Studio is more advanced than most these DAWs and it was a bargain @ $50.
So I have 5 new Daw's installed on my computer some make noises, some expire in 14 days and some 30. I'll poke around a bit more later but right now I've got work to get done so I'm back to Sonar until I'm feeling the urge to explore again.
Here's to a long road ahead using Sonar.
Cactus . . . LOL it's all true, everything you've said . . . thanks you for the much needed optimism here ! If I can stay with Sonar, I most certainly will . . . but for me the fear of old software that will no longer work is a real fear, and I have a lot software / plugs that I spent a lot of money for, and can no longer use as time marches on. I also agree regarding the recent PRV improvements, they have made a huge difference in my composing work flow, and I would be very reluctant to give that up, and my DAW searches haven't found anything to meet my high standards. Simply put, Sonar has spoiled me . . . only Cubase seems to have a depth that is comparable to Sonar Platinum. I still need to make a living into the future, so I think I will get Cubase, and dabble with it as a back up, since there are some great features for composers there. I get the feeling I will still be spending most of my time in Sonar, and hope my disk imaging and back up plan saves the day.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:26:07
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I went thru a similar situation when Adobe decided to no longer upgrade Audition a few years ago. I'm stuck at version 6CS or something like that. The world did not end. I still use Audition in it's final form and it serves me well. However, with Sonar/Gibson, it has become a matter of trust, as I feel ripped off over the lifetime updates issue. What are they going to pull next ?? That's why I'm migrating over to Cubase. I need a good midi recording program to cover my midi needs in the event Sonar dies out for some reason. I'm also downgrading to the Elements version, because I no longer need all the bells and whistles of a full fledge program. I don't need tons of synths, virtual instruments, etc...just a basic midi recording program would do me just fine.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:26:26
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☄ Helpfulby donbelisle 2017/11/26 03:33:44
To those who say Cakewalk screwed them, you are pointing a finger at the wrong villain.
Cakewalk and it's employees did not pull the plug. Gibson did.
And who cares, the whole point is we have the best DAW for life if we so choose. We were not really screwed at all. In a way we got more than we paid for.. at least that's how I feel after looking at the other offerings. Go ahead and spend more money, that's good for the MI, we need more like you to keep the wheels greased. Myself I will take that money and buy a better Pre Amp.. that will make my DAW experience that much better!
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2017/11/26 00:26:36
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☄ Helpfulby doncolga 2017/11/26 03:55:11
You fools! The Cakewalk Bunny has hypnotised you all. But I'll be sticking with Sonar.
All praise the Cakewalk Bunny.
I'm off to see the Wibble, the wonderful Wibble of Wobble
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:26:36
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☄ Helpfulby doncolga 2017/11/26 03:55:24
Still use Sonar as it's the best even without the updates but have taken advantage on the Harrison Mixbus offer..
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:27:28
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☄ Helpfulby Cactus Music 2017/11/26 00:41:11
I'm sticking with Sonar as my main DAW until the end, and I have no intention of spending any money on another DAW until I need to. Right now I have installed on my PC a full copy of Samplitude X3 Pro, and a fully licensed copy of Reaper, and those are all I need as backups.
I think it is good advice, though, to make sure you are not 100% entrenched with one DAW (or any one piece of software or software environment, for that matter) because you never know what is going to happen down the road, as technology and the markets change. Today's iconic brand is tomorrow's lamented memory, and its nice to be able to jump with confidence to an alternate environment/platform should your favored product end up on the losing end of a corporate take-over or market shakeup.
It was very interesting to take a tour of other DAWs this week (the one slight upside to an otherwise very depressing few days), and I liked playing around with Mixcraft and Studio One 3. I figured it couldn't hurt to at least see what they are about before I pass up on any one-time crossgrade deals. They're all decent products with lots of potential, but none of them will replace Sonar, and so I'll just carry on carrying on. SPLAT until the end.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:27:46
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I don't want to change either. I am SO used to everything about SONAR and other demos so far are frustrating me for various reasons. It is weird however using it now, knowing I can't ever again bug anyone at Cakewalk to help me with this issue or that. 
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:31:22
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I'm staying for the short-haul, maybe another year or two. Actually, I don't need 90% of what SONAR does, so most any other DAW would work for me. What I'm gonna miss is the aesthetic elegance of SONAR: the thing is beautiful. It's a joy to look at, especially with the themes I downloaded.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:32:51
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I'm there as long as it works.
I also hope Cakewalk's YouTube channel and online documents stay available.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:35:16
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I still use 8.53 mostly.
So, I'll make sure I have all the current Splat files and maybe in 10 years or so, I'll "upgrade".
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:39:03
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I'm sticking with sonar and watching all the cute pink bunnies hop around. It hasn't been any waste of time or money over the last 23 yrs for me.
Of course (as I bask in my lack of DAW diversity) I have taken a look at other products in the last few days and I'm asking myself would I want another same workflow type DAW or another style and if I do get something else while sonar continues to work it would be something different but complementary to sonar.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
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☄ Helpfulby Cactus Music 2017/11/26 00:42:43
I just bought Studio One. But then i fell in love with Sonar again. I will use it as long as i can.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:45:05
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Thanks to everyone and staying positive about Sonar. If they never do come back to life we will be this small band of outlaws, a cult following so to speak!
( sorry I don't get the bunny joke? I guess I better go to the coffee house and see what this means)
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:46:25
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Sounds like many are asking themselves the same question, how can something so good come to such an end ?
Mismanagement and profit margins aside, as long as it breathes, it remains alive.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:49:36
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☄ Helpfulby Jarsve 2017/11/26 00:55:33
Been here since v9 for msdos. I'll be using it until i die unless ms breaks it. I'll feel more secure when they deliver the authorization patch.
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Re: Lets Hear from you folks who are going to stay with Sonar!
2017/11/26 00:55:35
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I'll keep it on the computer for awhile...but just like Cool Edit Pro...when I switched to Cakewalk back in the 90's...it never got used again. It is looking solid for switching to S1 and some PreSonus hardware controllers too. After using the demo for awhile, it's just something new and exciting to me. I LOVE SPlat...but once I get deeply committed to S1, I don't see using both.
I also like products that will evolve and at this point, Sonar will obviously not evolve anymore. Does it need to? Not really, but that's part of the fun of using software to ME.
I worked in the Sailboat sales arena for 30 years (and still do svc on my own now), and working on the NEW boats was a huge plus. Yeah...old boats still work, but putting on new, state of the art electronics, seeing what manufacturers are doing new... all that's exciting to me. When my local marina/dealer stopped selling new boats, I quit and went to work on my own. Change is good.
Oh... I see the thread title is "who is staying with Sonar"...
...my tape recorders sat in my closet for 10 years...UNUSED, until I finally sold them. Cool Edit Pro was the new kid on the block back then....and tape hiss was a hinder.
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