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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/18 11:12:05
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Tony came through! Less than 2 hours after I emailed him, I got a reply with my zip file attached. Class A service!
It's easy to support guys like Tony. Class A plugins and class A service! And the price is stupid cheap! Interesting conversation on the lack of VST3. It seems it's becoming such a huge pain that plans are to drop VST3 in his other plugins as soon as he can upgrade them all over to the juice framework (which is what is used for MJUC). I know Tokyo Dawn originally planned on having VST3 and also decided against it.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 07:30:33
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I finally got around to installing it last night. I put it on the master buss of a song where I previously had my variable mu emulation from the liquid mix. Wow! I'm loving it, and it's so easy to get the sound you're looking for! But even still, I found myself tweaking for an hour or so. There are so many tonal nuances that you can get with this thing! Thank you, Tony!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 17:10:42
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After many attempts mastering the first big killer track for this album I am mastering right now, I switched back to the second model instead of the third. It really sounds good. Yes it has more colour and mojo or whatever but it suits this track better. The three models sound different so please make sure you listen to all of them. I was on Model 3 for a long time with this track but now I am loving how Model 2 sounds instead. (Like I did right at the start) I have also found some of the quieter tracks sound nice with Model 3 instead. I need to get my teeth into Model 1 too and find where it sits in the overall scheme of things. It is a great compressor on a mix. I am pushing it a little harder too now and getting it into -2 gain reduction heading into -3 territory as well. (only on loud bits) It is great you can switch models on the fly while the track is playing. You do have to readjust a few things though when you do this. You wont get the exact same amount of GR in all three models either. So you need to tweak the input and output levels when you do change them on the fly. But they are often quite close though. I use to borrow the Smart C2 hardware compressor from the TAFE I was teaching at the time and use it on albums for mastering. It was very nice. In some ways the MJUC is the best software thing I have used that comes close to this in a funny sort of way. Another very cool thing is that you can look at the GUI in different sizes. I find on a 27" monitor setting the GUI to 125% or so makes it very easy to adjust as well.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 20:06:43
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Ok...
I was just playing around with mode 1 which is supposed to be the most colored because of the straight tube signal path and the ability to use the controls to "add" tube stages. I had been using mode 3 on a Massive patch of an "airy Rhodes" . The tone was full and warm with a touch of baby hair definitely there. I switched to mode one. When on mode 3, I had the timbre set to -2 and the drive set to 7 as I was testing the variation given by the settings. I got up to get something to drink, sat back down and played the patch.. I thought something had happened to my signal chain at first! (It did).
This is a great unit because the modes really do give you three different compressors with distinct personalities for the same purchase price. Yes, the plugin is certifiable schizophrenic. in short the sound had went from definitely there "baby hair" to full on "Yeti" (mid frequency content) with the same basic control settings. The drive control really does add "sizzle" to the signal. I am not saying that the mode (1) (or a 7 setting for the drive) would be good for the Rhodes sound I was looking for, but boy did it show the kind of variation that is available. And it is controllable. This kind of stuff generally does not get my tea percolating these days.. But today was an exception.. Again Tony and Company... Nicely done.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 22:35:07
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What kind of CPU load/hit does MPUC have?
Given the discussion in this thread, I am interested in this as an alternative to Mixbus3, which I like but is not 100% stable.
Normally I would try a demo, but the demo prvided is only for the MJUC Jr version. I realize that for master bus use, the CPU hit is not that much of an issue, but still it would be good to know in advance if it is heavy on the cpu.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 22:42:47
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This has nothing to do with Mixbus 3, that's a console emulation daw. For that you'd want to use something like Slate's VCC, Waves NLS, tape & saturation plugins. Tony released the free MJUC jr. version with the highest cpu usage so one could see how it performs. IIRC it's a combo of models 1&2. I'd download it & see for yourself.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 23:04:26
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Thanks. Yes, I know it has nothing to do with Mixbus3; I realize it is a compressor, but one that has "character". I do have the MJUC Jr and have played with it; Jr has a very low CPU hit on my machine. Just wondering about the full version since it has more bells and whistles. Still. Thanks for clarifying that it is a compressor and not an emulator.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 23:09:23
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Then the full version will work fine. It's has saturation, distortion, Timbre, punch. You could even use without the comp on & shape the sound. As I said, very versatile. There's also the manual you can read or download. http://klanghelm.com/MJUC_audiodemos.php
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 23:30:39
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cecelius2
I do have the MJUC Jr and have played with it; Jr has a very low CPU hit on my machine. Just wondering about the full version since it has more bells and whistles.
I got the full version, and I only noticed a very slight hit when I had it on the master buss, and I'm running an old Q9550 Core 2 Quad machine.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 23:39:30
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What kind of CPU load/hit does MPUC have?
Given the discussion in this thread, I am interested in this as an alternative to Mixbus3, which I like but is not 100% stable.
Normally I would try a demo, but the demo prvided is only for the MJUC Jr version. I realize that for master bus use, the CPU hit is not that much of an issue, but still it would be good to know in advance if it is heavy on the cpu.
Your probably thinking of the Mixbus thread and the conversation Jeff and I were having. We have both been testing Mixbus 3 and MJUC at the same time. Basically we were saying while Mixbus does indeed have some issues...MJUC is giving a nice analog type mojo that is filling the gap for the time being. I was not trying to compare the two. MJUC is a spectacular compressor and I have high hopes for Mixbus 3 too. Sonar will always be my main daw. There is no comparison between Sonar and Mixbus 3.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/19 23:59:49
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cecelius2
What kind of CPU load/hit does MPUC have?
Given the discussion in this thread, I am interested in this as an alternative to Mixbus3, which I like but is not 100% stable.
Normally I would try a demo, but the demo prvided is only for the MJUC Jr version. I realize that for master bus use, the CPU hit is not that much of an issue, but still it would be good to know in advance if it is heavy on the cpu.
Your probably thinking of the Mixbus thread and the conversation Jeff and I were having. We have both been testing Mixbus 3 and MJUC at the same time. Basically we were saying while Mixbus does indeed have some issues...MJUC is giving a nice analog type mojo that is filling the gap for the time being. I was not trying to compare the two. MJUC is a spectacular compressor and I have high hopes for Mixbus 3 too. Sonar will always be my main daw. There is no comparison between Sonar and Mixbus 3.
Thanks. Yes, that is where I read the comparison. Based upon this thread and the youtube video, I went ahead and just purchased the full version of MJUC. I have Waves NLS, Slate's VCC, and of course Sonar's console emulation. Adding MJUC just gives more options, and it really does look like it will be a useful tool. I have not been in the market for a new compressor, but this one really caught my attention. Thanks guys for a helpful thread!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/20 03:31:39
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One thing I discovered about MJUC and that is to set the cal level. It is up the top right. It sets the VU meter response level wise and the signal level through the compressor too. Mine was on -18 but I have been working at -14 instead. Once I set that to -14 the input output levels changed and it seemed more correct for -14. (these are all rms readings)
I have been using no drive, opting for total clean sound. I did go back to the Model 3 in the end because the client could hear the compression as subtle as it was from Model 2. In model 3 there is just no hearing it.
The side chain filter needs to be thought about too. If you raise it then it does not respond to the frequencies below where it is set meaning you will get more low end through uncompressed. I preferred the sound however using a HP filter to remove unwanted sub bass stuff first before hitting the EQ even. That meant the SC filter could be dropped right down or off so the low end was having an impact on the compressor too. If the sound hitting the compressor is well balanced then it is a lot happier in general anyway.
I have finished mastering this whole album now and it has done an excellent job on it. Sounds killer everywhere and in the car too!
Yes Mixbus is a different thing. I was able to do what I needed mastering wise with MJUC instead. Sometimes Mixbus does not always work perfectly for mastering either but that is another story.
I also have Klanghelm SDRR too and that is pretty nice at what it does as well. I tend to use that on buses just processing part of a mix though, not for overall mastering.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/21 22:57:13
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I was just mixing a song with an acoustic lead kinda almost flamenco guitar part in it. I added, I think, the mk3 ( the one with punch as a parameter) and used one of the guitar presets to start and messed with it including adjusting the punch to 2. Right after choosing 2 the transients just thickened up in a nice way on the guitar lines. Then I thought, "okay I'm done here, moving on".Very nice! I've also tried it on the 2 bus on this song and removed The Glue, which is my go to bus comp. I think I'm going to be using this comp a lot. *Edited to get the correct number for the punch parameter.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/22 07:19:41
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Yep... I think it's replaced my old standby too.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/24 08:52:16
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dupe
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/24 08:52:16
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new update today to v 1.0.1
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/24 10:25:21
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Plugin of the year? It's got my vote!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/24 10:46:57
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clintmartin
Plugin of the year? It's got my vote!
He really hit it out of the ballpark with this one. I love plugins like this. Simple, effective & lets you concentrate on the making music rather than being concerned with numbers, percentages , values or theories.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/24 18:13:01
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clintmartin
Plugin of the year? It's got my vote!
He really hit it out of the ballpark with this one.
I love plugins like this. Simple, effective & lets you concentrate on the making music rather than being concerned with numbers, percentages , values or theories.
Ditto!!!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/24 23:28:51
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I couldn't let you guys have all the fun, so I checked, and yes, I had room for another plugin or two and got SDRR as well. Damn GAS.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/24 23:32:51
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SDRR is a very nice plugin too. It can do so much, like all of Klanghelm's plugins.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/25 10:33:35
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payday Monday. guess what i'm spending money on...
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/25 12:30:12
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Likewise. I did download the freebie version but there's very little control over anything so really not sufficient (IMO) to make that call. However... This may be the first time (evah) that I'll be making a purchase solely based on user feedback. The responses here have been so completely overwhelming that it's impossible to ignore!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/25 12:45:19
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I don't know, maybe the hype is surpassing reality. But I got this earlier this week and love it!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/25 12:58:42
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stevec
Likewise. I did download the freebie version but there's very little control over anything so really not sufficient (IMO) to make that call. However... This may be the first time (evah) that I'll be making a purchase solely based on user feedback. The responses here have been so completely overwhelming that it's impossible to ignore!
Remember the main purpose for the jr : "MJUC jr. is the little brother of MJUC, a mixture of the models Mk1 and Mk2. It'll give you an idea, how MJUC performs quality-wise and CPU-wise. If MJUC jr. runs smoothly for you, the big brother will do the same."
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/25 16:49:02
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Ah... you know, I did in fact completely forget about that! Thanks for the reminder. Now to go insert 10 instances and see how the CPU reacts.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/25 18:48:24
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I've been swapping out around 5 comps in projects with about 30-60 plugins, including a few Nebula/Acustica cpu hogs.
It's been working great, not a single crash or error so far.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/26 12:00:30
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I'm at a cabin in Northern MN, but based on Clint's and Jeff's testimonials (two sources that I trust very much) I bought this compressor this morning. I won't get to try it out for a week, yet....but it sounds very exciting.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm
2015/07/26 12:38:33
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Jimbo21
I don't know, maybe the hype is surpassing reality.
Gee, that's never happened before.
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