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MJUC variable-tube comp + update 1.0.2 | Klanghelm


"MJUC is the most effortful plugin to date. It took almost two years of extensive, dare I say "excessive", research and development. To create MJUC I've researched and analyzed each and every variable-mu* implementation I could get my hands on to get the best of tube compression into a single processor. In order to do the diversity of this compression topology justice, three different models have been build. These are kind of a time travel though the history of tube compression to capture the essence of each generation. Each model has its own dedicated signal path and dedicated control set. If desired you can tweak the overall tone and saturation of each model with the unique TIMBRE and the DRIVE control. DRIVE controls the load of the input and output transformers as the saturation of the tube gain stages, if applicable. The TIMRE extends MJUC's use as a tone shaping device."

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http://klanghelm.com/MJUC.php
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/14 07:48:29 (permalink)
That's a sexy GUI...


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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/14 08:18:56 (permalink)
Yep, I'll be buying this one for sure. Klanghelm is one of the best devs out there IMHO.

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/14 08:19:46 (permalink)
Make sure to download the free MJUC jr. too.
I tried it to check installation & behavior. Briefly stuck on a mix, so far works very well.
 
http://klanghelm.com/MJUC_audiodemos.php
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/14 08:44:01 (permalink)
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Yep, I'll be buying this one for sure. Klanghelm is one of the best devs out there IMHO.


Same here. I started with his VUMT meters at that time they were free.
When he decided to charge I bought them & all his products since.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/14 08:45:05 (permalink)
Mmmmm!😋

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/14 09:24:27 (permalink)
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Mmmmm!😋

$27.00 for this is a real bargain. Fully featured, works well, easy to setup & more importantly does a great job with the material I've used it on.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/14 09:51:47 (permalink)
It's bought! I'll install this tonight.

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/14 13:02:08 (permalink)
Love Klanghelm, trying out the Jr. Thanks carl!

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/15 14:41:33 (permalink)
I hate the term no-brainer but after using this all day yesterday & today it certainly qualifies.

A perfect choice for anyone looking for an inexpensive, versatile & excellent quality comp of this type for tracking, mixing or mastering chores.

A bit high in cpu, other than that it's a 'unowhat'.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/15 17:32:46 (permalink)
Yep, It certainly seems to be a good value. I have all of Klanghelm's stuff. I'm having a good couple of weeks actually. I bought TDR Slick EQ GE for $25, Harrison Mixbus 3 for $40 and now MJUC for $27. Those are some nice editions if you ask me, and they all work well in Mixbus by the way.

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/15 22:37:22 (permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okuQHiURDZE
Pretty good video of the MJUC. This thing is a very, very nice compressor. It has mojo!

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/16 17:08:20 (permalink)
clintmartin put me onto this.  This is a very mice compressor indeed and I am having a good time with it right now.
 
I am really liking it a lot and I mean big time.
 
Firstly all three models are different and offer something different.
 
I am mastering the second track of an album first.  It is quite a big track with lots going on.  It is also a track that sounds great EQ wise and needs little EQ.  I call this track the album reference track.
 
I am using some subtle Pultec EQ before the MJUC.  Just to push mids and highs a little.  I think the mix engineers speakers are a little forward sounding with strong upper mids presence.  He is holding back in the upper mids and highs to compensate.
 
I have to correct the tracks a little to bring them back to well balanced spectrum wise.  I am just running the tracks through a Pultec EQ.  Each tune is on its own track and has its own Pultec!   All Vintage switches are off meaning I am getting the cleanest most pure Pultec sound without transformers involved so much.
 
Those tracks all feed the masterbuss and it is there I have MJUC so all the tracks pass through it.  Helps with the unification of the tracks.
 
I jump around the tracks quickly and compare how they sound against each other.  I am always comparing the other tracks to the album reference track that I mastered first.
 
After the Pultec restores everything nice I am hitting the MJUC.  Not much compression only 1 to 2 dB. You can hear it bigtime. Slow attack and longer release.  Model 2 impressed me first.  (It still does!)  It added a sound that made this track jump forward a bit.  In the Model 2 I was using a 2:1 ratio.  Model 2 has colour bigtime.  But nicely so.
 
I read Model 3 is the Hi Fi one but has the punch settings.  This punch switch really kicks the mix I am quite amazed how punchy it gets.  Even 1 is too much.  I have it on 0 and it still adds punch!  So I am a Model 3 man for the moment.  It sounds a little more clean or something and I love the punch!
 
I might find other tracks might just suit some of the other models.  Time will tell.  I am amazed at how little gain reduction is being shown eg -1 to -1.5 and yet you can really hear this thing being switched in and out.
 
I am out of Harrison Mixbus for the moment and back into Studio One V3.  It is more stable.  Solid and bullet proof.  Saves buckets of time.  I am sure Mixbus will get there.  I was using the Harrison to add something to the tracks.  It does but also MJUC does too.

This is a very clean path.  Just Pultec on the tracks.  I do tweak the volume of the clip itself and get it in the ballpark too. Then into MJUC.
 
Xenon is not in circuit yet but it will only make things louder again but not by much.  I am mastering to a K-14 ref level right now but I will get Xenon to add 1 to 2 dB making the overall master a -12-13 level.  It will be quite loud and punchy without any squashed sound anywhere in sight.
 
These files are all at 48K and I am still in 48K. I can reduce the sample rate right at the end when I render a track fully out.  Everything is also 24 bit too now but Xenon has a lovely dither algorithm.  It sounds great going to 16 bit right at the end.
 
Thanks for this. This is one lovely compressor I can assure you.  It is so musical.  I have been fiddling with the Harrison Multiband and it too can sound polished but this thing just kicks and it really only has only one knob on it.  It has got a HP filter in the SC circuit too.  You can tweak this compressor quite a lot.
 
I am real happy with the first mastered album ref track. I added 2 dB to K-14 bringing it up to K-12.  When I ran the DR meter over it I got a reading of DR=10.  Steely Dan's 'Everything Must Go' is also a DR of 10.  That is loud but punchy and has snap too.  So does my master, very similar now.  I am sure due to MJUC.  I just hope the client wants to leave the master where it is and not make it louder.  Xenon can but it will have to start puhing hard in order to do it.  It should stay where it is now.
 

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/16 19:56:29 (permalink)
MJUC is pretty sweet!
I was listening to 'Everything Must go' last night. Good reference material there.

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 16:21:03 (permalink)
Have only 3 of us bought this thing? I know none of us are compressor poor, but this one is different...dare I say special. It's not just me, it's getting great reviews everywhere except for those that want to run 40 instances of it. It does require a bit of cpu, but as Klanghelm has explained...it is required to get this kind of result. Go try it.

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 17:17:09 (permalink)
Using it all the time here Clint. I just mastered a 10 track project of material using it.
I don't squash mixes anymore, for mobile releases -16 LKFS / DR13 I just dropped my -24 LUFS source mixes in while barely hitting it to -2 db reduction.
Each model used for different style of material. Easy to use, great results, cheap as chips.
Can't recommend it enough.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 17:33:01 (permalink)
I'll definitely be buying this. I bought VUMT after hearing Jeff rave about it. I was very impressed with it, and I'm sure MJUC will be impressive too. Maybe then I'll finally retire the variable mu emulation on my old focusrite liquid mix. Thank you very much for turning me on to this!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 18:35:19 (permalink)
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Have only 3 of us bought this thing? I know none of us are compressor poor, but this one is different...dare I say special. It's not just me, it's getting great reviews everywhere except for those that want to run 40 instances of it. It does require a bit of cpu, but as Klanghelm has explained...it is required to get this kind of result. Go try it.


Well now... Four of us... I checked out these posts... I checked out the YouTube video and I thought (snickering) ... Yep...  another piece of hyped up software designed to appeal to the right brained and  emotional nature of Gearitus. So for the price I thought I've wasted more money on a LOT worse (Anther story). Installed it and....  Simply ... Impressive. Money well spent. No straining to hear what the modules and the controls are doing (and liking it!), fairly straightforward operation and it basically does what it says... extremely well. Take it from a truly battle scarred marketing hype skeptic... This compressor is for me .. The real deal.. period  .. Very nicely done...

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 19:20:18 (permalink)
I got it. Sounds great and for the price it's a no brainier even if you already have tons of compressors like me.

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 20:54:17 (permalink)
Great news! I thought this one might be getting skipped over. I've come to believe that Tokyo Dawn, Klanghelm, and Valhalla are some of the best high end devs out there...even with the modest price.

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 20:54:53 (permalink)
Okay, I just bought it. Waiting for the email... Thanks again!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 21:58:48 (permalink)
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Great news! I thought this one might be getting skipped over. I've come to believe that Tokyo Dawn, Klanghelm, and Valhalla are some of the best high end devs out there...even with the modest price.


I would also add Vladg Sound, Melda Production and Boz Digital Labs are also doing really good work. Pound for Pound some of the best products out there period in my opinion and very fairly priced. Geesh.... I sound like a marketing guy.. WTH...

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 22:17:49 (permalink)
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Okay, I just bought it. Waiting for the email... Thanks again!



Me to, after all the commotion I thought I'd better give it a whirl . . .
 
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 22:37:44 (permalink)
Tony sends all the emails himself. Europe, he's probably sleeping atm.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 22:48:26 (permalink)
The mixes I am dealing with have quite a lot of sub heavy bass in them. I have found it is best to remove it first before the signal travels anywhere. Before the Pultec EQ in my case too. That also means no silly sub stuff is hitting MJUC either. (or Xenon for that matter and I know that Xenon does not like gobs of heavy sub bass) MJUC and Xenon react more evently to the whole spectrum now.
 
I tried pushing Model 3 to get a full 2 dB of gain reduction. And it sounds good doing it too. Good news is the master is quite loud. Xenon in my case is only adding 3 dB and most of the time it is not limiting. I am getting a strong loud master that is 1 to 2dB higher than K-14 meaning the master is hitting -13 to -12 dB rms
 
Dynamic Range meter is showing 10 now on this track which means it still has plenty of it in reserve meaning punchy mixes. I have set the Punch parameter now to 2 pushing things a little which is great. DR reading did not change after setting the MJUC differently too.

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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/17 22:57:20 (permalink)
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Tony sends all the emails himself. Europe, he's probably sleeping atm.




Well that just won't do . . . next you'll be telling me he wants time off for dinner and other such non necessities ??? j/k
 
I thought it would be something like that, I recall a bit of a wait when I purchased his VU meters
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/18 02:11:52 (permalink)
The Eagle has Landed . . . off to instal and have a play around
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/18 07:22:18 (permalink)
Ugh....There's no winzip file in my account like there is for VUMT, just an installer. I just emailed Tony. I hope he'll send me one. I don't have internet at my house.
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/18 09:41:21 (permalink)
Tony came through! Less than 2 hours after I emailed him, I got a reply with my zip file attached. Class A service!
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Re: MJUC variable-tube comp | Klanghelm 2015/07/18 10:23:16 (permalink)
I will for sure, get this one in a couple of weeks, Love it. ( got the free version atm ).
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