Hi cecelius2   I still have no joy in 64 bit. If I try to load a vst that I have working in 32 bit it opens the 32 bit MIDI guitar program overtop of
 
the 64 bit version (weird huh). If I then close the 32 bit version the vst in the 64 bit has crashed and not loaded. 

As you said it is beta and I am sure these issues will be worked out. I still think this is a buy.    

Thanks for taking the time to explore this.  I will post back with any other info I can come up with.     Dan

The MIDI Guitar documentation on the Jam Origin website http://www.jamorigin.com/...ws-Mac/help/index.html recommends 256 samples, I run at 128. For whatever reason there is no mention of lower settings.

It turns out there is a problem installing both the 32bit and 64bit versions. Sounds like the problem is triggered by having them in the same directory. Expect a new release soon to fix. From the kvr thread the dev states:

So it turned out that the scanner problems are caused by the filename "MIDI Guitar 64.exe"...

It turns out that if an app ("MIDI Guitar 64.exe") wants to launch a process (in this case the scanner which is also in "MIDI Guitar 64.exe") - Windows will first try to run "MIDI.exe" and "MIDI Guitar.exe" before the more sane approach of "MIDI Guitar 64.exe". So the scanner launch the 32 bit version if you have it in the folder... and things start to go even more wrong from there because then it might find 32 bit plugins in the 64 version which won't load.

The quick fix is to rename "MIDI Guitar 64.exe" to "MIDIGuitar64.exe".

While the problem is going to be addressed in the next release, I would recommend installing the 32bit version somewhere in your "C:\Program Files (x86)" directory tree and the 64 bit version in your "C:\Program Files" tree, just like most software installers would do. Better yet, if you do not need the 32bit version, don't install it. I was unaware of the bug because, like I said above, I only install the 64bit version.

Hi Everyone,

I'll be visiting this thread once in a while if you have questions, suggestions or problems with our MIDI Guitar software. 
We generally try to base our developments on real users needs, so we are always happy to get feedback.  

As mentioned we are posting a yet another update tomorrow with more fixes.

As a quick-fix for plugin scanning problems, please rename your exe to something without spaces (ie. "MIDI Guitar 64.exe" to "MIDIGuitar64.exe") and make sure you rescan. 

Best
Jam-O.

Nice to have you aboard!  This the best thing to happen to midi guitar in a long time    Dan

Thanks for the heads up Scrook. Scanning vst's great and working well.     Dan

jimtzu
I've been playing around with the MidiGuitar software for a few days and have the standalone version working pretty good (one odd thing it does is ANYTHING that is played thru my computer, backing track etc, is played by the synth sound) but having little luck integrating it with Sonar X2.   i've read all the posts here and tried everything suggested and can get some sounds but notes above and below the octave i'm playing in get triggered and then it'll just start grabbing handfuls of notes at random and go haywire.  not sure what's going on there. thinking it could be my interface??  the m-audio 44 is a pci card, which is a bit unusual.   any ideas?
my main purpose is to input midi for sketching out ideas. i have an old Shadow SH 075 unit that has the hex pickup and have been using it off and on over the years, it works ok but not accurate as i'd like.  

Perhaps Scook will also post.  I have a couple of questions to see if I can help.
 
1. Are you using MidiGuitar v7.5?
 
2. Are you using it in its DAW mode within Sonar as a vst OR are you using it in Standalone mode with Loopmidi or LoopBe1 ?
 
3.  If you are using it in the latter mode, the Standalone mode, have you selected "None" as the Instrument in MidiGuitar's Instrument output?  I ask this, because if you are using it in Standalone mode to trigger softsynths in Sonar, you need to choose "none" in Midiguitar's instrument so it does not trigger the Midiguitar's internal instrument.  You then in Sonar choose whatever vst you want and then on that vst's midi input you need to choose Loopmidi or LoopBe1.
 
4. What sample rate is Midiguitar reporting for your M-Audio 44 sample rate buffers?
 
Not sure what is going on with the sounds below or above the octave.
 
As I said in a different post, I never got Midiguitar to work in its DAW mode as a vst within Sonar, but I did get it to work by running it as a Standalone, choosing "none" in Midiguitar's Instrument Output, choose Loopmidi or LoopBe1 as Midiguitar's Midi Output, and then in Sonar by Loading a softsynth and select Loopmidi or LoopBe1 as the softsynths midi input.  Also make sure Loopmidi or LoopBe1 are activated on Sonar's Preference section for midi drivers.
 
Do not give up.  It is definitely worth it to have MG trigger softsynths and to use MG to input midi for quick ideas.  IT is great for that.

Hope that this might help, not sure, but I have not seen MG doing what you are experiencing, but others may have and hopefully they will post to help.
 
Hope Scook will post and see what he might suggest.

Cecelius... the answer to your questions:
 
1.  yes  using v.7.5, just d/loaded it this week.
2. for integrate with X2 i've tried both methods.. as vst where i get some sounds but it does not record midi for me.  when tried as standalone with loopmidi it made my audio44 drivers "disappear" and thus no sound came out so had to abandon that route.  never seen that before.
3.  can't try this because of the afore mentioned driver disappearing.
4. buffer size is 128
 
when used as strictly standalone it took some tweaking but got to be useable and fun...  wanted to check out the compatibility with the DAW before i pulled the trigger and bought it.  that's where i'm at now.   have no idea what's up with the loopmidi program but tried it a few times and followed the instructions.
 

Yeah, no doubt a routing problem in the standalone.
 
For the VST to work
1) set up an audio track for your guitar, mono input, echo on
2) Drop MIDI Guitar into the FX bin
3) Set the MIDI Guitar Instrument output to NONE
4) Check "Enable MIDI output" on MIDI Guitar in the synth rack
5) Insert a softsynth, echo on, make sure the synth has a patch loaded
That should get sound from the inserted synth. From there, if you want to record the MIDI enable the record button on the MIDI track. If you want to record the audio from the guitar enable the track record button and set the AMP/Effect output to Direct in MIDI Guitar.
 
 
 

thanks guys,   i did get it working in X2.  i'm thinking it was 3) Set the MIDI Guitar Instrument output to NONE that i was missing. i also switched the vsti i was using (have tried several now).  so it's working and able to record midi.  now to actually test drive it to see if it does what i need.  i realize it's still in beta and it's good to see their rep on the forum here, that's a good sign.    i still need to work out my routing problem on the stand alone.  
thanks Scook and cecelius2 and all.  btw how do you get the signature at the bottom of your posts listing your setup? i thought i did that but it's not showing up.  i've been using Sonar since it was only midi.. just not too active on the forums....
 

Congrats, there will be a new release soon, at least according to the kvr thread.

scook
0.8.0 beta released on kvr thread
 
FWIW, my results are: the standalone worked fine but the VST shutdown SONAR X2a.

Thanks.  Downloading now.  Will report latter when I have played with it; probably tonight.
 
[[Edited to include info about v0.8.0 as follows--don't know why it formated like it is below, but here is the info:]

0.8.0 BETA

General:
* Our new MIDI Machine is now embedded in MIDI Guitar.
 It allows you to easily create arpeggiators, harmonizers, chord filters,
 or indeed any imaginable midi effect.
* Velocity curve setting.
* Settings are now only saved on shutdown. Fixes concurrency issues with
 multiple instances of MIDI Guitar running and issues with disrupted VST plugins
 preventing MIDI Guitar from launching.

Standalone:
* Added MIDI Learn functionality.
* Added project management to make it easier to switch between sound setups.
 The project stores all parameters including VST instrument and -effect states
 as well as the MIDI Machine setup.
 MIDI Program Change can be used to switch projects at the press of a button.

VST/AudioUnit:
* Added VST/AudioUnit parameters so MIDI Guitar can be controlled by a DAW.

Recognition:
* General tracking improvements.
* Improved tracking of minor seconds.
* Improved latency at non-44.1Khz samplerates. All samplerates now perform
 similarily.

Bug fixes:
* Fixed issues with plugin scanner when used in plugin.
* Fixed save of MIDI enable/disable in plugin.
* Fixed bug where Test Piano would load after being disabled.

Ok, we have fixed the Sonar issue. Please download version 0.8.1:
 
Windows:
jamorigin.com/midi-guitar/MIDI-Guitar-0.8.1-Win.zip
Mac:
jamorigin.com/midi-guitar/MIDI-Guitar-0.8.1-Mac.zip
 
 
 

0.8.1 fixed the VST blowing up SONAR. Guess it is time to learn Lua.