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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/10 12:13:38 (permalink)
Tried for the first time 2 weeks ago. Single notes track ok if played slow, but felt a little delay.. but chords, anything more than 4 (edited) 3 voices will have some tracking problem. Perhaps I do finger style (on an electric), and not with a pick.
 
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/10 12:24:55 (permalink)
Usually JamOrigin publishes links to beta releases on the kvr thread prior to publishing the update on their website. This allows them to shake down the beta before general release. When they publish the update on their website, they send out email. If you subscribed to the newsletter and are not getting the update notices try sending them an email via their website
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/10 16:18:50 (permalink)
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0.8.1 fixed the VST blowing up SONAR. Guess it is time to learn Lua.



Is "blowing up Sonar" a good or bad thing?  Do you mean it is still crashing Sonar?  or that it is insanely good?  Honest question, just want to make sure I understand.  BTW, have family visiting and have not been in my little studio to test MG out yet, but will try to get some testing of MG done soon.




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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/10 17:22:41 (permalink)
In this context, a program blowing up is not a good thing. Inserting the 0.8.0 VST in an audio track would cause SONAR to shut down instantly without an error message or Windows log entry. The 0.8.1 release does not shut down SONAR. 
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/10 18:32:30 (permalink)
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In this context, a program blowing up is not a good thing. Inserting the 0.8.0 VST in an audio track would cause SONAR to shut down instantly without an error message or Windows log entry. The 0.8.1 release does not shut down SONAR. 


Thanks; that makes sense; sorry for the confusion.  
 
I just played with MG 0.8.1 in Sonar X3a and it seems fine; no crashes.  The new features like the arpeggiator seems to work but not sure if I will use it/them much.  For some reason, MG 8.1 seems to be working better for me in Sonar.  I still can't get it to generate midi output (even with "enable midi" checked and the regedit change from 0 to 1).  However, it is now triggering softsynths from within MG's own instrument output.  This is definitely an improvement for me.




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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/10 19:13:47 (permalink)
If it is triggering synths in MIDI Guitar, the MIDI should record. Make sure the audio track w/ MIDI Guitar in the fx bin has echo on. Are you using a Simple Instrument Track or Audio+MIDI tracks for the target synth? I do not use Simple Instrument Tracks.
 
One thing I just noticed with 0.8.1 is when playing a synth on a separate track and then add the piano or guitar direct out in MIDI Guitar, the pitch of the synth drops.
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/11 02:05:44 (permalink)
a couple of notes...  haven't tried 0.8.1 yet but was able to get midi recorded using Simple instrument track method.  i did have a similar crash on the previous version trying to use the VSampler as vsti.. it shut down X2 totally. haven't tried it again since then. havn't had time to check out the latest release of MG.
 

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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/11 08:09:50 (permalink)
0.8.2 officially released at their website, received the email notice a little while ago. The pitch problem noted above in 0.8.1 is gone.
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/12 18:09:17 (permalink)
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If it is triggering synths in MIDI Guitar, the MIDI should record. Make sure the audio track w/ MIDI Guitar in the fx bin has echo on. Are you using a Simple Instrument Track or Audio+MIDI tracks for the target synth? I do not use Simple Instrument Tracks.
 



Hey Scook!  I had a Breakthrough!  Finally after weeks of not getting MidiGuitar to operate in the DAW program like you and others have, I actually got it working as it is suppose to work.  Now in DAW mode (not Standalone with LoopMidi), I can enable midi output on MidiGuitar (and now it actually works), and then can route that midi output to any softsynth.  MidiGuitar is now working for me in both Standalone and DAW modes.
 
I am a happy camper.  I uninstalled previous versions, did a fresh install of v8.2, and followed the procedure to configure as synth and to set the regedit from 0 to 1.  Then inserted MG on audio track, and right clicked the synthrack, and selected enable midi from the pulldown menu.  Now it works.
 
Wow, this is a breakthrough for me.  I like using it in Standalone mode, or in Standalone mode routing it through Loopmidi into Sonar, but having the ability to call MidiGuitar up as a vst simplifies it use for me.  What a releif.
 
 
 
 




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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/07/12 18:20:51 (permalink)
Good news. It just had to work given your previous post. Now that you got it working, you really should not need to mess anything other than overwrite the old VST and exe when updating.
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/08/07 03:27:13 (permalink)
i haven't checked in for a while and see this thread is trailing off.  i thought i'd share one of the things i've been doing with the MG software.  i do a live net broadcast using guitars, drums and native american flutes and i've incorporated the MG standalone version into the mix via my hardware mixer and some routing, i can now play a back track or loop pedal and either play a synth thru the MG software as designed (stand alone version) or (this is where it gets cool) i can play my flute and have it trigger the synth instead of a guitar and use it as a midi controller, PLUS with the mixer routing i can layer in the real live flute and whatever synth sound i choose. i can even take the synth sound and route it thru the loop pedal to create multi layers of different instruments and combine them with real instruments.  i know that's not what the designers had in mind but it seems to work out pretty well.  if you read my earlier posts on here about the routing problem, it has now been turned into some tasty icing on the cake...... but now i have to relearn how to use MG in a DAW lol....

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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/08/07 03:27:28 (permalink)
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/08/07 08:50:27 (permalink)
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i haven't checked in for a while and see this thread is trailing off.  i thought i'd share one of the things i've been doing with the MG software.  i do a live net broadcast using guitars, drums and native american flutes and i've incorporated the MG standalone version into the mix via my hardware mixer and some routing, i can now play a back track or loop pedal and either play a synth thru the MG software as designed (stand alone version) or (this is where it gets cool) i can play my flute and have it trigger the synth instead of a guitar and use it as a midi controller, PLUS with the mixer routing i can layer in the real live flute and whatever synth sound i choose. i can even take the synth sound and route it thru the loop pedal to create multi layers of different instruments and combine them with real instruments.  i know that's not what the designers had in mind but it seems to work out pretty well.  if you read my earlier posts on here about the routing problem, it has now been turned into some tasty icing on the cake...... but now i have to relearn how to use MG in a DAW lol....


Very cool Jim. I truly enjoy reading and learning about all these creative techniques you guys all incorporate in useage. I'm still using the free Beta version while testing out the latest version of MG on my new build with Win8......this is definitely on the top of my list of next purchases. 
 
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/08/18 17:09:20 (permalink)
Just read over on the KVR thread that Jam Origin's Midi Guitar will be upgraded in a  week or so to v9.0.  The developer notes that while doing some more tests they have found a new sweet spot:
 
       " Something that felt extremely responsive like 0.5 with accuracy of 0.6 and lower latency of 0.7. 
        ....  And there it was: It has found some headroom to improve tracking while preserving the very
        responsive feel."
 
It may be a week or more before it is released, but it looks like v9.0 might be a winner with responsive, accurate tracking at acceptable latency.  
 




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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/08/18 17:13:51 (permalink)
Unless they break sumpin' in the process.
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/08/18 17:39:16 (permalink)
a couple other improvements I forgot to mention that may be useful for some:
 
 It will also have support for drop tuning, a built-in interactive help-system and smaller file sizes.




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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/09/07 16:43:49 (permalink)
0.9.0 beta just released (check the end of the kvr thread)
No major issues encountered so far with standalone or VST in 64bit X2.
 
 
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/09/07 17:17:49 (permalink)
Great news.  I was also just about to post the news.  Have not used it yet, but below is what the developer says about this release:
 
WHAT'S NEW:
Major tracking improvements (generally more responsive and improved latency). Also fixed some tracking issues at buffer sizes smaller than 5.8ms (bug in 0.7, 0.8 )
 
Support for drop D/D# tunings.
Built in interactive help system and documentation.
Smaller binary file sizes.
New "Dynamics" MIDI Machine for dynamics automation
Fix: No longer sends out MIDI CC-119 streams
Fix: Various minor fixes

ATTENTION:
We discovered that all versions 0.7.x and 0.8.x has a bug which will overwrite recognition presets (including the default ones) with a uniform/flat pitch sensitivity iff those presets have been originally created with another version of MIDI Guitar. This typically has bad impact on tracking. It is now corrected in 0.9 and forward but please delete or revisit your old recognition presets. Also make sure you try each of the three default presets again to find the best setup for your guitar.
Also, versions 0.7 - 0.8 have had a problem where buffers smaller than 256 at 44.1Kh would degrade quality tracking considerably. This is fixed in 0.9.




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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/09/09 21:21:50 (permalink)
0.9.1 released to fix freshly broken plug-in scanner
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/09/10 08:44:26 (permalink)
After reading the new Release notes, I was ready to purchase the full version last evening...........but after installing 0.9, I just couldn't get it to use to use my ASIO (Toneport DI soundcard) driver......it kept giving me an error (something like) ASIO driver not found (although I re-installed the driver). In the past, I've got it working with earlier versions of Jamorigin, but not this one. However, I was able to use 0.9 with the WDM driver and all of this was done in standalone mode. In X2, I'll be definitely using my Tonport/ASIO, so this is a major concern......
 
I'm not sure what to do to get it working and just can't justify buying it until this actually works.......any thoughts??  

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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/09/10 10:42:13 (permalink)
So 0.9.1 MIDI Guitar works OK in standalone using WDM? Did you try using MIDI Guitar in X2 as a VST while running in ASIO mode?
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/09/10 12:06:49 (permalink)
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So 0.9.1 MIDI Guitar works OK in standalone using WDM? Did you try using MIDI Guitar in X2 as a VST while running in ASIO mode?


I only saw 0.9.1 this morning and haven't installed that yet (I installed 0.9.0.....not sure of the last digit, but yes, it worked in standalone WDM mode). I haven't tried it in X2.....wanted to see how it worked out in standalone first......I'll try that out this evening and post back. 

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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/09/11 14:42:03 (permalink)
i've been using MG more as stand alone so far, just for the enjoyment.  here's a little clip of an impov... very minimalist style using acoustic guitar and a Dim Pro patch  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_b7kH4qvU8&feature=c4-overview&list=UUxjiJrtefKAVksO95cKX1hQ

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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/09/12 21:23:36 (permalink)
0.9.2 available at the Jam Origin website.
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/10/18 22:21:10 (permalink)
Pardon my resurrection of this thread, but I just found out about MIDIGuitar about an hour ago, so I went to their website to check it out. The website is still up, but all links I was able to find to d/l the 0.9 beta are now broken.  I'm getting "Address not found" messages for their entire URL jam-o.com. And I'm getting a "Not Found" message stating "The requested URL /midi-guitar/vst.html was not found on this server." So they've brought down jam-o.com and they've gotten rid of, or blocked access to the directory /midi-guitar/ .
 
At first I thought they were rolling up the carpets and about to take the sign down. Now, I'm thinking that they've ended the beta testing, but they haven't announced it yet.  Does this sound about right to you? I mean it's been in beta now for over a year, hasn't it?  And didn't one of the developers say that 0.9.1 was a real game changer, or words to that effect?  So 0.9.2 might have been a maintenance release, just tidying things up in preperation for 1.0. Possibly?
 
Dang it. I sure would like to get my hands on 0.9.2 so I could try it out before buying the licensed edition. Anybody here wanna share? If it works as well as people say it does, I've got a YouRock MIDI guitar controller here that I just bought and I might just exercise my 30-day return privilege on it. Even if I have to buy a copy of MIDIGuitar, I'd still be saving $180. But I sure would like to be able to try it out first.
 
Hey, there's a guy named David Wallimann who is in one of the links that y'all provided, who was trying out a beta copy of it. The recording was posted on December 20th, last year.  So he was probably trying an early version of 0.9, I'm guessing? Of course, he's all jazzed about it and his playing sounded really nice too. He mentions toward the end of his video that the beta comes with only a single soft synth and that it has only one voice -- piano. He says you can use this synth for as long as you like, but that if you load in a different soft synth, it will work, but you're restricted to only one minute of playing.  Is this the way the beta has been working for y'all too?
 
Oh, the Jam Origins folks were participating in that discussion thread also and they posted a link to a "huge discussion" that's been going on over at the KVR forums about it. Here's that link:
 
http://www.kvraudio.com/f...torder=asc&start=0
 
I guess you could say it's still going on too. Last post was on October 14th. I've just joined up over there at KVR and I think I'll post a note asking about the links being down.
 
 
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/10/18 22:45:36 (permalink)
The Beta is still on. I was able to download 0.9.3 from here
The video must be old. There are several synths included but they really don't matter because the standalone MIDI Guitar is also a VST host. MIDI Guitar also comes as a VST plug-in for your host.
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/10/18 22:51:16 (permalink)
Try the fourth post down on this page which has a link to the 9.2 download: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=359095&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=945
 
I can't speak for the developer, but I can say that from time to time their webpage was down for a few hours for maintainence.  Check and see if the link I gave above works for you.  If not perhaps others here might chime in.  Good luck and do let us know how you progress.




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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/10/18 22:52:25 (permalink)
Scook beat me to it and he has the 9.3 link.  Good luck.
 




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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/10/19 21:13:08 (permalink)
Hmmmmmm still not impressed with even the simplest of strumming. Stray notes jumping in out of nowhere.
 
I set my buffers to 128 and 256 to no avail. Played with the sensitivity, not much difference at 25, 45, 80 or 100.
 
So far I'm glad I did not purchase this.
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Re: Midi-Guitar Software 2013/10/19 23:40:51 (permalink)
Bapu:  I don't strum "normally" with any of my Midi Guitars.  I have both 2 Axons and one Roland Midi controller and I never "strum" normally with them.  Rather I pluck or play more like a pianoesque style.  This style is a very precise attack that is clean and allows for all the midi notes to be seen by the Axon or Roland or in the current case the JamOrigin program  So when I test out the JamOrigins Midi Guitar program for use with a normal (non hex pickup) guitar, I apply the same midi guitar playing technic--clean plucking or clean picking or gentle slow strums.  Yes, I  may do gentle slow strums, but not the folksy or heavy rock type strumming like I do with my D35 or in a folk song or a Tom Petty song for example.  That more common strumming is something that I do NOT expect from any midi guitar program.  I have never found midi synth controllers to accept strumming well not even a GR55 set for playing virtual strats or 12 string guitars.
 
Not trying to be confrontational here, just saying that with most (perhaps all?) midi synth guitars control boxes there is a different technique that is used and perhaps a different expectation.  I find that JamOrigins tracks remarkably well and is useful in jotting down ideas and musical phrases into a track--I am more comfortable on a guitar than on a piano or keyboard and so I can use the midi guitar program to get ideas and chords and progressions into a track and then edit them as needed.
 
At least the demo is free and you did not have to pay to find out it was not right for you.  
 
[[Edit: I reread your post and realize you gave it a real try with the settings.  I should add that my strat does not track well with this program, but my ES175 is wonderfull with it.  So different pickups and different guitars track differently.  Even on the KRV site some love it; some find it tracks well, others have trouble.  Again, at least you did not spend any $$ on it.]]
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