jamesg1213
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 17:47:34
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/03/04 19:28:30
It's better than the 'jazz hands' thread.
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sharke
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:03:08
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SuperMarioGamer
sharke
Has someone not banned this troll yet?
I think I can just move on from having any sort of discussion with you since you keep on insisting that I am a troll. Therefore, I will just wait for those people who do not jump to such blind assumptions about me and are willing to engage in a discussion with me here. My recent previous posts get the ball rolling if anyone out there is willing to discuss them with me.
Yeah well good luck with that. Look around the forums, you'll find in depth and interesting discussions on every musical subject - people manage to have these discussions because they don't troll and they are capable of having two sided conversations that aren't just narcissistic expressions of delusional grandeur. You should try it sometime. Come back with a new identity, cut all the crap, cut all the "me and my feelings and my supreme talent and extraordinary skills" BS and just approach people normally. If you don't know how to do "normally" then I would suggest putting the composition skills on hold (not that you appear to have even started learning yet) and brushing up on your communication skills. I don't care where you go with this schtick - and there are scores of music forums you could try - you're going to get the same response every time.
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SuperMarioGamer
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:11:50
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Beepster
Okay. Please define exactly what it is you would like to discuss.
Because all I see is you telling everyone how awesome your microphone farts are, how you are "now learning to compose" but obviously prefer to just ramble on here incoherently about how awesome you are (to actual musicians/composers who ARE good at what they do and worked their ballz off to get to that point) and repeating the same obtuse nonsense to anyone fool enough to engage you.
There is no discussion here. It is just you being a nonsensical egotist who obviously has no real interest in learning anything.
You have been doing this under multiple handles pretty much the entire time I've been on this website and absolutely nothing has changed except perhaps your methods of avoiding getting banned for as long as possible.
If you aren't a genuine troll then you are a "spammer". And yes, you don't need to be selling anything to be a spammer.
Either way you are breaking the TOS... even if this IS the Coffee House.
Hosts... please deal with this. It makes the forum look ridiculous.
What I wanted to discuss was simply this whole idea that you don't need to be a professional and your works of art don't have to be virtually flawless in order for your works of art to be great and for you to be a talented individual. As long as your skill falls within a certain threshold that significantly exceeds that of an average non-talented child or lay person, then such a skill can be considered talent and your works of art can still be considered great even if they are not professional and have many flaws.
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Beepster
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:22:28
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That is a statement. Not a discussion topic and you have already said it over and over and over again not just in this thread under this handle but in most of your other threads under most of your other handles.
I am an old punker who loves old scratchy, sh*tty demos of underground bands who could barely play their instruments.
You know what the difference between them and yourself is? They actually put in some effort to create something and (generally) don't blather on to complete strangers (let alone professional musicians) about how awesome they are.
There. Discussion over.
Go away.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:26:20
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Beepster
That is a statement. Not a discussion topic and you have already said it over and over and over again not just in this thread under this handle but in most of your other threads under most of your other handles.
I am an old punker who loves old scratchy, sh*tty demos of underground bands who could barely play their instruments.
You know what the difference between them and yourself is? They actually put in some effort to create something and (generally) don't blather on to complete strangers (let alone professional musicians) about how awesome they are.
There. Discussion over.
Go away.
That's my whole point though. There was much effort I put into this. I put much more effort into this than what any normal child or lay person could do. Think of American Idol singers who are awful. Even though their singing is awful and not professional, they are still better than the average non-talented child and lay person. They have clearly put more effort than the average non-talented child or lay person. Therefore, those American Idol singers still have talent and their singing is still great, but it just doesn't meet the high standard that the judges expect.
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jamesg1213
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:29:14
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Have you done my goat voice yet? Deadline is approaching. If you can't take commissions and work under pressure, you're never going to make it and be recognized.
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Beepster
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:38:25
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☄ Helpfulby sharke 2017/03/04 18:40:41
ALL YOU DID WAS MAKE WEIRD NOISES IN A MICROPHONE!!!!
Here, let me answer your "questions" for the next hundred threads/handles you create.
You have no discernable talent. You have done nothing of value. The "epic" compositions in your head likely suck too but no one will ever know until you actually STFU, put in the work and pull your head out of your a**.
That of course is IF you are genuine which is giving you far more credit than you deserve.
Go away. You have no point. You have no talent. You have no skill. I suggest taking up baking and bothering those forums for a while.
And if this is McQ... seriously dood. Do you not have better things to do with your time?
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:43:36
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Beepster
ALL YOU DID WAS MAKE WEIRD NOISES IN A MICROPHONE!!!!
Here, let me answer your "questions" for the next hundred threads/handles you create.
You have no discernable talent. You have done nothing of value. The "epic" compositions in your head likely suck too but no one will ever know until you actually STFU, put in the work and pull your head out of your a**.
That of course is IF you are genuine which is giving you far more credit than you deserve.
Go away. You have no point. You have no talent. You have no skill. I suggest taking up baking and bothering those forums for a while.
And if this is McQ... seriously dood. Do you not have better things to do with your time?
Putting more effort into something is what makes it better. This is a simple fact of life. If you put more effort into cleaning a certain room, then you would have done a better job at cleaning than your average person who just swipes away. This would also apply to voices. An average non-talented child or lay person would be the equivalent of the sweeping lazy scrubber. But since I was serious and put more effort into creating those voices, then that is what makes them great and talented. Or, in this case, that is what makes the cleaning job done better than that person who just sweeped the room out of lazy endeavor.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:47:21
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That is complete and utter nonsense. I mentioned this in regards to the "10,000 hour" rule in another recent thread.
If you are doing something wrong, no matter how long you do it, you will still be doing it wrong.
You, my annoyingly obtuse friend, are doing it wrong.
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jamesg1213
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:48:05
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Beeps, he's playing you.
I'm never getting my goat voice.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:54:46
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Beepster
That is complete and utter nonsense. I mentioned this in regards to the "10,000 hour" rule in another recent thread.
If you are doing something wrong, no matter how long you do it, you will still be doing it wrong.
You, my annoyingly obtuse friend, are doing it wrong.
You see, that was the central core by which all my posts in this topic revolved around. You thought that I was being some troll or something. But you were mistaken. I might still be doing it wrong, but it is still significantly better than the average non-talented child or lay person because that all goes back to my cleaning analogue. I might not have had 10,000 hours of training, but I did a better job than the average sweeping scrubber in my cleaning analogue and that is what qualifies my voices as talent and great works of art. You and others just have a much higher standard which is the reason why you see my voices as having no talent at all and just plain awful. But if you were to set your standard lower, then you will be able to appreciate the works of art that these voices truly are. If you always have high expectations in life, then how can you ever appreciate the good value of things life has to offer you?
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:55:56
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Fershure, but I'm currently just sitting on my d*ck while concocting my next IRL evil scheme so I figure I might as well waste as much of his time as I can in the meantime.
Also, sometimes it's nice to have a punching bag you don't feel guilty about punching.
And of course someone will likely report me for being an arsehole which generally gets the hosts looking at the silliness leading to numbnuts like this getting dealt with. Keeps me from actually using the "Report" option which I never use because I'm a hardened street kid who still feels weird about "snitching".
I'm almost ready to offer up my services as a forum "bouncer" (not a "host") if everyone else is too shy/libertarian to deal with blatant forum abuse. I really don't want that though.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 18:57:27
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/03/04 19:03:27
It's 'analogy' not 'analogue'.
The first part of either is exactly right.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:04:18
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SuperMarioGamer
If you always have high expectations in life, then how can you ever appreciate the good value of things life has to offer you?
You have absolutely NO clue who you are talking to, pally-o. I thrived and made my bones in the ugly, chaotic filth of the street level art/music scene. I appreciate sh*t. Completely ridiculous, noisy, smelly, nonsensical sh*t. I am a connoiseur of rottenness. There is absolutely nothing of value to anything you have posted or posited here. You even suck at trolling.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:13:37
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Beepster
SuperMarioGamer
If you always have high expectations in life, then how can you ever appreciate the good value of things life has to offer you?
You have absolutely NO clue who you are talking to, pally-o.
I thrived and made my bones in the ugly, chaotic filth of the street level art/music scene. I appreciate sh*t. Completely ridiculous, noisy, smelly, nonsensical sh*t. I am a connoiseur of rottenness.
There is absolutely nothing of value to anything you have posted or posited here. You even suck at trolling.
You honestly don't believe me when I say that I put effort into those voices just like the amount of effort that a scrubber put forth into making a good cleaning job? Why would it be necessary for this scrubber to have 10,000 hours of making a virtually perfect cleaning job? Don't you find yourself complimenting people who have done good cleaning jobs even though they did not have 10,000 hours worth of practice at cleaning? This is the standard I think you should go by when judging my voices. Any lower standard would be absurd, but I think this standard is well justified to go by.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:15:48
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SuperMarioGamer
But if you were to set your standard lower, then you will be able to appreciate the works of art that these voices truly are. If you always have high expectations in life, then how can you ever appreciate the good value of things life has to offer you?
Now we're getting to the nuts & bolts of your thinking/talent.......everyone needs to have super low expectations (waaay below mediocrity) in order for you to look good? With that kind of so called 'thinking', anything and everything is a work of art (depending on how low you want to go). Anyway, now that you've finally set the bar for yourself.......this certainly must be EPIC.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:18:07
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Mesh
SuperMarioGamer
But if you were to set your standard lower, then you will be able to appreciate the works of art that these voices truly are. If you always have high expectations in life, then how can you ever appreciate the good value of things life has to offer you?
Now we're getting to the nuts & bolts of your thinking/talent.......everyone needs to have super low expectations (waaay below mediocrity) in order for you to look good?
With that kind of so called 'thinking', anything and everything is a work of art (depending on how low you want to go).
Anyway, now that you've finally set the bar for yourself.......this certainly must be EPIC.
Read my previous post. I do set a limit on how low the standard is. It is a standard that I point out which I think is well justified to go by.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:18:18
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I used to be a glorified janitor... and yes, you can completely f*ck up a cleaning job even if you spend 10,000 hours cleaning the same room. I'd say even more so the longer you "clean" if you don't know WTH you are doing.
I quite literally used to have to scrub years worth of improper cleaning away to get work areas ACTUALLY clean. Not just surfaces where feces and other filth had merely been spread around contaminating everything.
Your "analogue" (lulz) is flawed.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:26:37
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Beepster
I used to be a glorified janitor... and yes, you can completely f*ck up a cleaning job even if you spend 10,000 hours cleaning the same room. I'd say even more so the longer you "clean" if you don't know WTH you are doing.
I quite literally used to have to scrub years worth of improper cleaning away to get work areas ACTUALLY clean. Not just surfaces where feces and other filth had merely been spread around contaminating everything.
Your "analogue" (lulz) is flawed.
But here again, you are going by a professional standard. The standard I go by would be a basic standard. One that is set not too low and not too high. In other words, right in the middle. It would be a standard where any normal average person would be able to look at the job you have done and would think that it was a good job. It would be the standard that my mother or father would have. If I put effort into cleaning a certain room which would be a better effort put forth than the lazy sweeping scrubber in my cleaning analogy, then that was a good job to them.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:30:03
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☄ Helpfulby jamesg1213 2017/03/04 19:32:30
I'm actually learning new things in this thread. Like that hidden, evil side of James I've never noticed before. 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:36:47
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Alright, well let's take this "analogue" further.
What you are doing is the "cleaning" equivelent of defecating in a power sprayer, blasting it all over a room and claiming you are doing a "good" job to the "best" of your abilities and seeking praise for it from high end professional janitors.
If your stated INTENT was to spray sh*t all over the place then I might be able to respect that but you claim you want to be a respected janitor.
I've never been a big GG Allin fan anyway.
Now go crawl back under whatever 4chan/gamer site rock you crawled out from under and take your trollfail lashings like a big boy.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:40:21
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So, to sum up.
Matt has done a slightly better job of grunting into a mic than a slipshod backstage cleaner at the American-I'm-A-Celebrity-X-Factor-Pop-Stars-The Rivals-Get-Me-Out-Of-Here-Bake-Off-Got-Talent auditions, and a talentless child of indiscriminate age, and/or, a lay preacher.
Which is nice.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:43:44
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:44:28
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DON'T EAT THE CHOCOLATE CHIP MUFFINS!!!!
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:50:33
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Beepster
Alright, well let's take this "analogue" further.
What you are doing is the "cleaning" equivelent of defecating in a power sprayer, blasting it all over a room and claiming you are doing a "good" job to the "best" of your abilities and seeking praise for it from high end professional janitors.
If your stated INTENT was to spray sh*t all over the place then I might be able to respect that but you claim you want to be a respected janitor.
I've never been a big GG Allin fan anyway.
Now go crawl back under whatever 4chan/gamer site rock you crawled out from under and take your trollfail lashings like a big boy.
This analogy you have given is flawed because the closer you are to having a cleaning job done good by a basic standard, then the better you are. If you have met that standard, then your job was done well. But you are claiming that I have actually made the mess in that room much worse by spraying feces in an attempt to clean that room. But that is a false analogy because, as James just pointed out, I clearly have met that basic standard since it was a job done better than those other people mentioned in his post. He said that my voices are nice and this is what I mean here. Your analogy is not consistent with Jame's comment.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:53:32
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James is mocking you.
PS: He has actual talent and obviously puts effort into it. You... are spraying feces and tell us you're frosting a cake.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:54:37
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Beepster
James is mocking you.
I don't know if he really is or not. So let's just wait to see what he has to say.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 19:59:00
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Let's not and you go away.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 20:04:17
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SuperMarioGamer
Beepster
James is mocking you.
I don't know if he really is or not. So let's just wait to see what he has to say.
Yes, I'm mocking you, for the possible amusement of others. Troll or not, you're an easy target for that, and sadly, I can't resist an easy target - ask Pedro. Whichever you are Matt, you should rethink what you're doing, because, honestly - it's not healthy. Side note: thanks Beeps, I appreciate the compliment.
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Re: My only reason for living and composing
2017/03/04 20:09:35
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Beepster
Let's not and you go away.
If there were a poor person in some other area of the world, he/she had little food, and could not get music lessons, but still had the desire to make music, then if there were people coming up to him/her and criticizing his/her music as awful, then that is unfair and unjust. This poor person cannot meet the rich man's standard (the professional standard) for good music. He/she instead has to meet the poor man's standard since he/she does not have internet, technology, etc. That is why I think it would be both cruel and unfair if anyone of you here put down this child/person's music. I realize that I have the internet, am learning music lessons, etc. But everything I just said here is to simply illustrate my point that it is demeaning of an individual's talent for you to go only by the "rich man's standard" in judging someone else's skill/talent. You should lower your standards as a means of respecting and acknowledging the works of art and talent that an individual truly possesses.
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