Word has it on the forums that Pro Tools 11 will not support RTAS ,,, That would make me jump ship . If I had $5000.00 invested in Waves plugins which to my knowlege is only RTAS ,VST or TDM . Why would you wait around for a few years for Waves to redo all of their stuff to AAX . how many other plugins have a while to go .    I think Pro Tools is shooting their self in the foot. I'm glad I'm not locked in to that program. Sounds like ObamaAvidCare to me.

Rain


Pro Tools 11 will not support RTAS - that's why for one of the very rare times you'll be able to run 2 different versions of Pro Tools on the same machine, so you can still access RTAS plug-ins if needed.

By simply googling the words Waves + AAX, you can see that Waves has announced AAX support at the beginning of 2013.  

 
PLEASE FANBOYS don't take this wrong! The truth and story about AVID and PRO TOOLS and AAX.
 
 
AAX
AAX is great! AAX were needed to make x64. It were easier to build a new format like AAX to make it work in x64 instead try to continue build on RTAS x32 that were programed in to a dead end.
 
 
 
PRO TOOLS
Same with PRO TOOLS. When they build and original program PRO TOOLS in the 90ths they never planed and though about the future. First build were in in 16bit format then later translation fix to code32bit x32bit systems dead end. The PT audio engine were to beginning only in 16-20bit too.
They continue to base that old audio-engine in x32bit code that is the reason why PRO TOOLS has the worst sound of all DAWs today and only I think based on 24bit /40bit internal if I'm not mistaken.
 
 
As many of you maybe remember PRO TOOLS 9 didn't even work or installed on VISTA, WINDOWS 7 x32 or x64 at first.
The problems is still there in PRO TOOLS 10 not talk about all horrible workarounds still need to do with PRO TOOLS 10 x32bit just to make it work on a modern Windows 7 x64bit or Windows 7 x32 system. 
  
So what AVID has need to do is more or less build the PRO TOOLS 11 x64 program from scratch again to make it work in x64bit environment and the result is PRO TOOLS 11 and AAX.
That takes time and that is the reasons that it the last DAW program on the market to support x64. 
As far as I understand the new PRO TOOLS 11 has a new x64bit audio engine too that are based completely on x64bit code. That's great.
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I very glad that AVID and PRO TOOLS 11 has join the x64bit world. As some of you say "it's a standard" (I don't agree on that though); this will make the software Industry has no more reasons to hold back and support any oldx32bit anymore. Finally we can see this old x32bit technology phase out to the history books.
 
 
 
Best Regards
Freddie

iTiDav


  "Is there one for the pan envelope too?" No. Well, I don't know if it exists ;) I use ALT for cutting the clip and CTRL for the clip-gain. For the rest, I use the automation. A question : well... how to quote a message in this forum ?!

I'm on Chrome here...if you look on the upper right hand side of the post you want to quote you should see something about "Reply To Message" ...when you hover mouse over it it should come up with a list that includes ...quote message" or somesuch. Click that and there you go....

iTiDav


 Thanks Trimph1. I've seen it but with Firefox, it give me strange things !

... But it works perfectly with Internet Explorer

how to quote a message in this forum ?!

 
This works with IE but I'm not sure about FF - highlight the text you want to quote, and then click the normal "Reply to message" button.   It's how I've been quoting all along and it's never failed to work.
 

I'm not Freddie but yes , it was the first native x64 DAW in the market over 5 years ago. Written from the ground up back then and second generation with the X1/X2 modifications.

Only Noel Borthwick can answer that question.

Found this in SoS... I'm sure there is some truth to what he's saying, but I can't help but feel he's somewhat of a Nuendo fanboey. 

Sandy Vee

“To be honest, I‘ve been working more and more with soft synths and in the box in general,” explains Steinberg endorsee Vee (see box overleaf). “Having said that, I do miss faders and buttons, and I’m talking with the guys at SSL about getting an SSL AWS924 for my next studio, which is great because you can control your DAW with it. I use [Steinberg’s] Nuendo 5, and have used Nuendo for many years. Now that I’m in the US, I encounter Pro Tools all the time, so I also have Pro Tools 9. However, I still far prefer working in Nuendo. I write in Nuendo, and will often export tracks as stems to Pro Tools, using AAF, with everything sounding great. We know what colours we want, so it’s not a problem to have less flexibility. After recording in Pro Tools, I will at the end select everything and export it again as an AAF file, and I’ll then import that into a new Nuendo session. In that way, I have the same arrangement in Nuendo as I had in Pro Tools. Everything is flat — ie. without plug-ins — but it’s the way I want it when I begin to arrange and then mix a song.

“I know Pro Tools very well, but for me that system is a bit 2000. It’s slow, particularly when you are using the TDM. I did a test recently with virtual synths. I opened 200 virtual synths in my native Nuendo system, and the demand on my CPU was around six percent. When I tried to do the same thing with Pro Tools, I had run out of CPU when I had opened just eight virtual synths! Pro Tools is cool for tracking — it has hardly any latency and is really easy to use — but my Nuendo rig with two Universal Audio Quad cards simply destroys an HD6 system. In Nuendo, I can have a session with 200 tracks, and have 300 plug-ins open and 30 VSTi virtual instruments, all at the same time, and it’s totally stable. The audio in Nuendo also sounds fantastic. Everyone says that all DAWs sound the same, but that’s simply not true. I’ve done tests comparing the sound of the same session in different DAWs, and Ableton sounded terrible, Logic and Pro Tools were OK, and Nuendo sounded incredible. Editing in Nuendo is also really fast. Pro Tools is just a standard, it was the first to come onto the market and everybody uses it now, almost out of habit. People in the US don’t know about Nuendo, but I’m sure that if they did, many would switch.”

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David

Bristol_Jonesey

fitzj


I'M learning so many new things from this discussion. Like it "Control and left click lovely lovely."

And me. Never knew that one before

I still don't know that trick! 

Note that you need to have the cursor in the bottom half of a clip for this to work; top half copies with ctrl-click.

aleef


Avid is the sleezoid government of pro audio!  if that company is losing money, its because the shareholders are pocketing so much of it. everything associated with ProTools is way, way overpriced. if Avid made a guitar cable, it would cost $500.  they control every aspect of their user base. Avid is now charging $599 to $999 after your initial purchase/investment for basic functionality..  that is fukin-insane.. you can call me a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but im convinced the nonHD software can detect if you know what you are doing, and major show stoppers are written in the code, to make the user consider buying  the hardware. Avid feels they can charge for the privalege of ownership...and it wont stop. am i going to update to PT 11?? .....youbetcha.

It's pretty cool how Avid can work outside the boundaries of supply & demand. That's a trick we all need to learn. 

I love subject lines like "Pro Tools 11 vs Sonar" They always kick up so much dust. There should always be a sub-header of: To the death ;)

Owning Pro Tools is like Owning a Harley Davidson . Its slugish and breaks down alot . and the maintanence is too expensive . But Your cool for having it.

Owning PT HDX would be like owning a Harley. Owning PT is like placing a lawnmower engine into a Harley frame. It looks like a Harley, it has Harley written on it, but... The PT software was not built to run natively in the first place, which may account for its performance which can be less than optimal when compared to others. But this new version - which has been rebuilt from the ground up - may very well change things.

Chrishubb2448
I think that the new Pro Tools 11 update could be worth all the trouble that is may cause. A LOT of the new features are great on 11. It finally has many features that all engineers have been waiting for. Pro Tools 11 redefines professional music and audio production for today’s workflows. From all-new audio and video engines and turbocharged 64-bit performance, to expanded metering and new HD video workflows. Pro Tools 11 also has 64-bit performance. This means much more accessible RAM to boost performance and you can creatively take your music and audio production to a whole new level, while handling bigger mixes with thousands of clips, take advantage of larger VI sampler sizes, and enjoy more system headroom. Pro Tools 11 is the dedicated low-latency input and playback buffers. This allows you to monitor record inputs on native systems with ultra-low latency — without sacrificing plug-in performance. To me, one of the best features of Pro Tools 11 is that you can now speed up delivery with offline bounce. With faster-than-real-time offline bounce, you can speed up your final mix or stem deliveries, up to 150x faster. Those little add-ons from Pro Tools 10 makes 11 better already. There are a ton more things that Avid has added and Im sure that you can read that on their website. One of my main things was the offline bounce, and I am finally happy that it is in 11. I have never used SONAR but I think that Pro Tools is still going to be the best recording software out there. 
 
- Chris Hubbard
 
 

You should try SONAR. You found your way to our site after all! I use both as well and prefer SONAR personally. Most of the kids I show it to at Berklee are amazed at what SONAR can do :)
 
Free 30 day trial is available if you're interested in checking it out: http://www.cakewalk.com/p...s/sonar/web-trial.aspx

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]
You should try SONAR. You found your way to our site after all! I use both as well and prefer SONAR personally. Most of the kids I show it to at Berklee are amazed at what SONAR can do :)
 
Free 30 day trial is available if you're interested in checking it out: http://www.cakewalk.com/p...s/sonar/web-trial.aspx

Oh man, you had me there Ryan!  I thought it was the X3 trial.
 
Any idea when/if the X3 trial will be available?  Thanks.