Craig Anderton coined the expression Splat in a post about 6 even 8 weeks ago.

CakewalkAlexs also changed his name to Splat shortly after.

Since Rapture Pro can play both Dimension Pro and Rapture programs will there be a tool, process or extra dlls which can be used to load Rapture Pro in place of the legacy synths in existing projects?

BobF
'Splat'  doesn't work.  *I* came up with 'S-Plat' ... note the capital 'P'  :)

Here's the original and please note the capital P. See post #9

http://forum.cakewalk.com...173611.aspx?high=Splat

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

...wicked
Haha "S-plat". I Like that!
 
But man though, haters gonna hate eh? A brand new synth that combines DimPro and Rapture with a pretty impressive looking GUI, browser, and huge sound library and you're gonna complain about a $79 price tag? Not me. 
 
As for the dude who owns Omnisphere, yeah you might not need something like this, Omni is pretty much the king daddy in some of that arena. But what did you pay for it? $80 is a very nice night out for me and the missus... I'll start with the apology flowers now.... :-)
 

HAHA, we didn't see this abbreviation coming. Remind me to make sure we review any potential abbreviations for future products :)

At one time long, long ago I had a job working in a group at AT&T called Local Alternative Market Entry and the abbreviation was thus LAME. 
 
It was part of the Local Services Division.
 
I'm not kidding. 

scook
Since Rapture Pro can play both Dimension Pro and Rapture programs will there be a tool, process or extra dlls which can be used to load Rapture Pro in place of the legacy synths in existing projects?

I doubt it but I would LOVE that as a "S-Plat" feature for anything. Or, er, EVERYTHING. It would be great to drag some older projects into the 21st century by updating their synths where possible. 
 
I note Cake continues their excellent backwards compatibility by having it load older Rapture/DimPro presets, which is pretty rad. I'm curious to see what NEW things it can do. Successfully frankensteining Rapture and DimPro together is fine and all, but that doesn't do much by itself without some new bits and bobs to mangle with.
 
The heavy accent on dubstep sounds in the video is a little....well heck I guess it's the flavor of the month eh? I find them to be a bit much. But clicking through some of the preset samples I'm all like "I want that!"

With so many superior sysnths like Zebra2, I don't think this one or its deal intrigues me.  The sample sounds make it less attractive.  Not to mention that U-he are releasing Hive soon at an intro price of $99.  After having DPro, Rapture and both Z3ta+ and 2 (which I do dig), I think it will be better to think outside of the cake box.
 
Kind regards,
 
tecknot

OK I asked the questions twice and got glossed over twice, so I will assume the worst case...
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3207047
 

Doktor Avalanche
Looks like everybody's questions have been answered apart from mine so I'll try again and be more specific...
 
* Do we get control of where we put all sample/program files etc in a settings section? (Currently with Dim Pro/Rapure it can only happen via registry and regardless it's impossible to move some files without symbolic links).
 
* Will we see regular service pack releases? (The old Dim Pro/Rapture only had one and it still has plenty of issues, will this be more of the same?).
 
* Will there be an PDF manual to download which we can review before we buy?
 
If the questions cannot be answered now I'll wait, just let me know...
Thx.

 
Sorry for the delay. I'm going to get back to you tomorrow when I am in the office.

To that earlier question, given the sample bank is 10GB, it WOULD be preferable to locate it where we want to, like on my samples drive for example. :-)
 

RobertB
I like to record my synths "actively", and the emphasis on performance control is very enticing.

Does that mean the ability to record the audio out from a VSTi is coming? (Sorry, couldn't resist )
 
The "10 GB" is eye-catching, but I am curious of if that is new material or a portion of it is from DimPro/Rapture? The DimPro samples alone were 6GB (with the X2 content club, and others along the way).

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

joden
and what do we do with our existing Rapture and Dim Pro instruments? Is this to replace them? Any discounts for existing owners?

There's an introductory upgrade offer for $99. If you own SONAR Platinum, it will be $79. You can keep your existing Rapture and Dimension Pro. Expansion Packs you purchased for them will be compatible with Rapture Pro along with the existing factory content that shipped with them.

Why $79 even for Platinum users ? Shouldn't it have been a free update as part of the new model ? Whats the point ? After all the upgrades and updates and new models and all that taking us upto Platinum by shelling out dough, why again $79 for Platinum users ? It should have been part of the monthly upgrade system for Platinum owners
 
This will simply play as a deterrent and discouragement to renewing the annual membership. Why would I want to renew if I am charged additionally for upgrades to synths that are part of CW's main lot and which I have been owning and using for ages ?!

AT
Why buy anything, ramscapri?
 
Cake has always sold their synths at first to re-capture some of their investment.  Freebies usually follow in 2-3 years and DimPro and Rapt were both professional tools.  So if you want to get it free just wait.  I can't think of a DAW that gives away a new tool - even if it is some kind of a combination of earlier tools.
 
Besides, it looks as if there are several gigs of new samples and a thousand new presets.  That takes money upfront.
 
@

Thanks for your reply AT. But its not convincing. Because saying that something could become free in 3 years, so wait for it, kind of defeats the whole idea of this new model. I am not saying that Cake should make it free for all users of the synths. Of course money goes in to development so any DAW maker will want to recapture that and CW should be no different. But the question is : why charge the new model users, especially the Platinum ?
 
I mean, I would get it at $99 if I had not upgraded and stayed with X3 Producer and now being a Platinum user, my advantage is only $20 less ?!! That doesnt look attractive at all. At best it should have been free and at worst, maybe a $10 as a nominal update price for Platinum. I hope someone at CW is listening...

Since the new way of doing things with the membership program, there seems to be a number of people, from what I have read, who are expecting things, everything for nothing, I mean yeah, if cakewalk said Rapture Pro was going to be a freebie, sure, thank you very much, but Come on, to expect it ?

I think we are getting more than enough stuff virtually for free already, and am thankful for that. As I have said before, if all I was getting was regular updates/bug fixes, and no added extras, I would be quite happy, and still think that what I got for the money I paid was a bargain.

The more you give some people the more they want, I don't get it. I'm quite happy to pay the $79 ($105 AUD) for Rapture Pro I think that seems like a steal, I'd still buy it at twice the price, like I've paid for other synths.

Id rather be thankful for the things we get, thankful for the fact that we get it for $79/$99, (Cake don't even HAVE to do that) instead of ****ing and moaning that everything should be free, I wonder if those who think it should all be free, would be so willing to give away the fruits of their work for nothing ?

Thank you Cakewalk, love your work

jih64
Since the new way of doing things with the membership program, there seems to be a number of people, from what I have read, who are expecting things, everything for nothing, I mean yeah, if cakewalk said Rapture Pro was going to be a freebie, sure, thank you very much, but Come on, to expect it ?

I think we are getting more than enough stuff virtually for free already, and am thankful for that. As I have said before, if all I was getting was regular updates/bug fixes, and no added extras, I would be quite happy, and still think that what I got for the money I paid was a bargain.

The more you give some people the more they want, I don't get it. I'm quite happy to pay the $79 ($105 AUD) for Rapture Pro I think that seems like a steal, I'd still buy it at twice the price, like I've paid for other synths.

Id rather be thankful for the things we get, thankful for the fact that we get it for $79/$99, (Cake don't even HAVE to do that) instead of ****ing and moaning that everything should be free, I wonder if those who think it should all be free, would be so willing to give away the fruits of their work for nothing ?

Thank you Cakewalk, love your work

Doesn't make sense. The point is that if it's given as part of the new model, it's actually not for free, it's priced already. All I am saying is it seems unfair that it's priced additionally for people on the new model, in particular the Platinum users. Isn't the whole point that you pay for the updates on a regular basis versus the previous way where we use to do point-in-time upgrades ? It's not about expecting something new here, that was what the new model was supposed to provide. And "The more you give some people the more they want..." doesn't apply here because if that were the case, nobody would have ever upgraded to the new model paying the annual price for it. Many people would have considered that it should have been a free "X3f" update or something.
I didn't suggest for a moment that Cake give it free to one and all.
 
And by the way, there are many including me who do at times give away the fruits of their work for free, its a good feeling...
 
And there's no denying all the great stuff we have got and all the good work that Cakewalk is doing...this is not about the technical efforts...its about how you shape a payment model and then it sort of turns an other way...