How Does Studio one sampler, Presence xt, compare to Sampletank? I always loved the instruments, effects, and content that packaged with cakewalk over the years. I was thinking of buying sample tank but maybe I can kill two birds if I buy Studio One and forgo sample tank if Presence is comparable?

denverdrummer
 
 Simple things like double clicking to reset pan/vol controls, don't exist in Studio One.  Heck even Bitwig has that and it's been around for less time that Studio One.

 
You obviously haven't learnt how to use it then, in your example above it's 'ctrl click', job done in one fluid motion as apposed to SONARs 2
 
Just because you don't know how to use something properly, doesn't mean you should just go making things up.
 
I've always been able to do things way quicker in Studio One than I ever could in SONAR, even not long after I started using it 3 years ago, after having been using Cakewalk stuff since Pro Audio 9.
 
Studio One is just way more intuitive, with way better workflow.

azslow3
Presonus... registered there to ask a question about Control Surface API on the forum.
No, its not possible... posting is allowed for customers only.
Good anti-spam protection. But they have one less potential customer now 

I've just asked a question and I am not a "customer":-
 
http://answers.presonus.c...sers-to-ask-a-question

synkrotron

azslow3
Presonus... registered there to ask a question about Control Surface API on the forum.
No, its not possible... posting is allowed for customers only.
Good anti-spam protection. But they have one less potential customer now 

I've just asked a question and I am not a "customer":-
http://answers.presonus.c...sers-to-ask-a-question

Thanks, so I have asked that way: http://answers.presonus.com/22537/control-surface-api-for-s1
I have used only forums before, ignored the bakery. So I have not noticed that Presonus also has several options to ask questions (they could mentioned that in the "why I can not post there", but they mention "Pre-sales" only).

Matron Landslide

denverdrummer
 
 Simple things like double clicking to reset pan/vol controls, don't exist in Studio One.  Heck even Bitwig has that and it's been around for less time that Studio One.

 
You obviously haven't learnt how to use it then, in your example above it's 'ctrl click', job done in one fluid motion as apposed to SONARs 2
 
Just because you don't know how to use something properly, doesn't mean you should just go making things up.
 
I've always been able to do things way quicker in Studio One than I ever could in SONAR, even not long after I started using it 3 years ago, after having been using Cakewalk stuff since Pro Audio 9.
 
Studio One is just way more intuitive, with way better workflow.

Agreed and same with me.  Once I spent a little time with some very quick tutorial videos on S1, the workflow is way faster for me than in Sonar.  I also find track organization and management much better in S1.

werewindle
Well I managed to get a cross grade to Studio One 3 Professional for $111 as it appears earlier in year I got a free version Studio One Producer as part of a bundle which I'd completely forgotten about till I logged into my account. With $ to £ rate being very favourable at moment and advice from Softube regarding compatibility with Console 1 seemed a good offer.

Hate to say it but it looks like you could have gotten it cheaper... $84 once you're logged in... just in case anyone else in the same boat is reading... 
https://www.audiodeluxe.c...nal-upgrade-producer-2

I wanted to add my and experience to those who are thinking about trying Studio One. I had been using Sonar up to the X1 days and decided I wanted to see what other DAWs offered. I was also using Presonus FP10s and heard good things about Studio One, so I thought I would start there.
 
My work flow is mostly studio tracking/over dubs and mastering (and some MIDI), so YMMV if you are more into strictly MIDI. Presonus does have a product called Notion that integrates with Studio One, so if you work more with notation/MIDI, that is something I would look at (there is a Forum over at Presonus for that).
 
After working with Studio One for about a week, I found what I think is the hidden gem of Studio One - the Project page. The Project page is a built in mastering section where you can group your songs on a timeline and save them as a Project. From the Project page, you can jump back into the Song page and update/overdub, etc. a song or track. When you return to the Project page, you can use a single click to remaster the updated songs. As a small studio owner, you can jump from one customer's project to another in a matter of minutes and not have to hunt for folders and remember sequences. I know other programs provide this work flow, but it don't think it is as seamless as within Studio One (plus you need to purchase/maintain another program). You can also give a customer a mix down of all their songs from the Project page before they leave (again just a single click). There is not a lot of Youtubes on the Project page but there is some.
 
Another important note about Presonus is that Studio One is tightly integrated with Presonus hardware. Since Presonus produces both hardware and software, they control the drivers and make sure things talk.  The FaderPort and CS units provide amazing control. I recently decided to replace my Berhinger BCF and BCR units with the newer StudioLive III mixer. The mixer allows you to jump from tracking mode to full DAW control with a single button push and will be a major improvement for my workflow. Note that for other control surfaces there is built in mapping capabilities within Studio One that work well (so you may be able to use your present control surface to control DAW parameters).
 
Hope this input helps someone here decide what is next for them.
 
Keep in mind, there are still great folks at both Cakewalk and Gibson and this looks to be a giant screwup of Gibson management at the top level. Reading through the forum these days, there are a bunch of really great people wondering what is next. I might suggest there is a great forum over at Presonus waiting to help if you decide to go in that direction.
Take care,
h

hermanoantequera
Well, with the Black Friday offer, Presonus is currently offering Studio One 3 for EUR 199.65. I wonder if the crossgrade offer for Sonar users will be any lower than that (or even higher)?

 
Go to Audio deluxe login and pay for S1 3 pro in dollars $168.98 that works out at about £125
 
I cant see them beating that price

I got the same, try it again later it does work.

Hmm, £125 IS a good price, but
Audio deluxe S1 3 pro is showing dollars $199.98 when I look at it at the moment? 
 
Also I can't seem to register an account with them at the moment.
 
 

icu81b4
Hmm, £125 IS a good price, but
Audio deluxe S1 3 pro is showing dollars $199.98 when I look at it at the moment? 
 
Also I can't seem to register an account with them at the moment.

Yeah you need to log in to see the final price, there's another discount automatically applied. Keep trying!

Zo Call me when they propose Oversampling , X ray , plugin menu layout and plugin permanet renaming , screensets , icons , templates ect .....:( love Studio one as a owner but a lot of simple stuff here and there makes me wanna quite and go back to sonar quikly ....

All of this, the plug-in part mainly too. I tried another DAW (Harrison Mixbus) and the plug in menu limitations were just ridiculous. Being able to fully customize it makes such a big difference in workflow speed. The oversampling is yet another big plus. Nobody else is doing that. Those basic aspects could survive is Sonar development is scaled way down, I mean keep all the free plugins, the included samples, sample players and soft synths can do any genre of music forever, no need to do anything more than keep bundling the existing models and make sure they work as Windows 10 is further updated.

The main issue is keeping the basics you mention and maybe tweaks to make it work faster and more efficiently or further improve audio quality if that is even possible. As a decades long user from its early MIDI days, who has the latest lifetime Platinum subscription, I'll gladly pay $100 a year to continue it in a much more streamlined update future vs. the bloatware monstrosity and need to offer every plug in someone needs since most of us use 3rd party software a majority of the time anyway, I'd bet. A much smaller staff of work-from-home coders without a big CEO bean counter can make this happen.
 

mixmkr
kinda strange just offering to cake users, if you ask me.  If was offered to other brands, it might not seem like a bit of strange-ness....but singling out Cake... hhhmm.

I asked about that. There are already crossgrades for all daws. The reason for giving a special price to cakewalk owners for now is they're "homeless," unlike those crossgrading from other DAWs.

So how will one verify ownership of a Sonar license for the Studio One crossgrade price? I am unable to find any original emails of purchase confirmation and the confirmations available on my Cakewalk account page all link to the Cakewalk store, which is now defunct and redirects all requests to a posting of Noel Borthwick's announcement of Cakewalk's closure. All I have currently are my serials and purchase dates, and my most recent billing statement (I'm on a monthly billing plan but have made the requisite 12 payments required to own a full license).

I would not be in any particular hurry to switch to a new DAW if I knew my current Sonar version was not going to run into authorization problems or be broken by a Windows update, but neither of those are guaranteed as of now. I realize it's the Thanksgiving holiday weekend here in the US, so I suppose there's not much to do but wait for some official word (hopefully an entire FAQ as Noel's post promised).

deswind
What is the midi like on the Presonus compared to Sonar?
 
Is Cubase better for midi and audio?  It was midi that brought me to Cakewalk from Mastertracks Pro - yes I am that old.
Thankful.
AB

That was exactly my path also-To CWPA 6 fro m Mastertracks Pro.
Midi is all important to me and I reaper it is really Un-Intuitive. 
 
For long time Home Studio users like myself (appx 1988) I really hope that i continue to use sonar just the way it is. I am still on Won 8.1x64. I own 2 full copies of Win 10 Prox64 (desktop and laptop) which I installed for a few weeks and then went back to 8.1x64. So as long As I would be able to reinstall sonar and the zillion sonar plugs I have purchased I woul,d stay right where I am.
 
But I hate to be the pessimist, but I just do NOT see Gibson caring about our concerns at all.