Thanks, it seems 7.0 comes no sooner than 12 months.

the_user_formally_known_as_glennbo

azslow3

Afrodrum
Current version is $60 with free upgrades until ver. 6.99. Does it mean another $60 when ver. 7.0 comes out (perhaps with free upgrades until ver. 8.99) ?

Yes. Note that 5.0 is dated 8.2015, 4.0 is dated 8.2011 ... I mean it can take a while till you are asked to pay another $60

Hehe, think of it as "Semi-Lifetime Updates".    ;-)

Definitively more then Sonar "liftime"

Suddenly my detailed post with answers to John's questions disappeared. See what happens if I make it a new post.
 

jbraner

- In MIDI editor (piano roll view), is there a way to save your settings, when you turn off showing velocity in the notes, and set colors to track (rather than velocity) etc? I found it going back to default every time I went back in to the MIDI editor. (maybe it will be better with different themes and saving layouts, screensets etc)

 

If you save your project with those changes, next time you load that project it will still have the options you had set.

 

- organising VST FX (instruments aren't so bad) is going to take *months*. I have an elaborate menu system set up in SONAR (which I've tweaked for the last 20 years) and *way* too many plugins to wade through without some organisation. It doesn't help that you can't make sub-folders in the FX Group Folders.

 

The moment you open the FX navigation panel, you'll have a cursor in the filter box, and if you for instance typed "tril", then you would see a list constrained to only show plugins with "tril" in their name.  I only keep a folder for my most favorite and most often used FX, and another for my most favorite instruments. Anything else I'm looking for, I use the filter box at the bottom for finding. It is an "as you type" filter too.

 

I'll get there eventually, but I have a sore head now. I'm going to go back to "business as usual" in SONAR for a while - then come back to this...

Hope you have a speedy recovery!    ;)

jbraner

If you save your project with those changes, next time you load that project it will still have the options you had set.

OK thanks - I'd rather not have to do it, each time - but I guess when I make a "template" that this will be covered.

 
I use my own startup projects as my beginning point. I like to use free item positioning with clips rather than fixed length takes, so my default template has a bunch of tracks set for free item positioning, plus my entire set of Superior Drummer 2 Ludwig drums, all mixed and spanning 8 tracks in a collapsible folder, so I can right away play some drums, or use loops from Superior's library for my metronome. I also have a lot of other stuff tweaked so when I start a new project, a lot of it is already laid out and formatted the way I like to work.

The moment you open the FX navigation panel, you'll have a cursor in the filter box, and if you for instance typed "tril", then you would see a list constrained to only show plugins with "tril" in their name. I only keep a folder for my most favorite and most often used FX, and another for my most favorite instruments. Anything else I'm looking for, I use the filter box at the bottom for finding. It is an "as you type" filter too.

Yeah, I see that, but I'm used to working a little differently. I like to see a list of "candidates" to pick from - like a "compressors" folder with my favourite ones at the top, then the rest, then maybe a "more" folder - for when I'm desperate, or feeling adventurous ;-)

 
If you were to type "comp" then you will see a constrained list of every compressor you have, unless it doesn't have "comp" in it's name. Yeah, it's different than Sonar, and that is an adjustment you'll either find you can deal with or not.
 
I've been rehearsing with a band to go out live and play some gigs. They have a set of drums in their studio, so I don't have to bring anything but sticks when I come over. The first time I came over, they kept telling me that I could adjust the drums the way I like them, and were knocked off guard when I told them that I would simply adapt to their setup, and not disturb the owner of the kit's setup. I'm pretty flexible and don't have to have every cymbal or tom in some specific place, but I have seen plenty of drummers who can't even play simple beats if everything isn't in the exact position they like it to be. Hehe, I just keep my eyes open and look for things to hit!  ;)

I realise that I'll have to change some mind sets, so just thinking about how to go about it.

I'd rather think this through now, in a "playing around" period, than have to stop every 14 minutes when I'm in "creative" mode ;-)

Playing around is where it's at. BTW, if you need a drum template or two for Superior let me know, and I'll post 'em somewhere. I'm sure you have every single drum kit they ever made, so any of my setups would translate, sans FX you might not have.
 

azslow3
What about:
Track: Select all tracks
Item: Select all items
SWS: Horizontal zoom to selected items
SWS: Vertical zoom to selected tracks
Item: unselect all item
Track: Unselect all tracks
 

That was easy! Man this thing is powerful... what *can't* be achieved with a combination of existing actions, macros and, for those with the affinity for it, a bit of scripting? 

"I'll throw Ozone on the 2-Buss and report back..."
This is currently a very "bare bones" project.
EZDrummer, TTS-1 for bass and keys; hand full of vocal and guitar tracks.
Couple instances of EZMix for guitar sims, two reverbs and delays (Sonitus).
With Ozone 8 and Insight on the 2-Buss (ARC on the Master), it runs fine at 48 samples.
A much more "complex" project "runs" in SPlat at 48; but there is a lot of "hash"; though no drop outs.
Not "scientific" to be sure, but...
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Wow!
Thanks for the heads-up Glen.
 
T

Frank Harvey
Whilst casually Multi Tasking ...........( & So UnMale   - Apparently ;) ) ........Trialing 3 or 4 Sonar Replacement  DAWS at once...........
Just then Trialed Reaper with Addictive Drums 2. 
Yeah it seems to work fine........not the same modus operandum as SONAR.....but we are all on a fast learning curve hey.
Loaded all the tracks from AD2 into Reaper on separate Tracks ( Yes using the Down Arrows In AD2 GUI - Pre Fader).
BTW........Just so I felt at SOoo @ home .........I trialed importing Ye Ole Sonar Icons as PNG's ( Thanks Photoshop for the BMP to PNG conversions).......plus some cropping and pasting .       
But the Eye Candy continuity helps ... in this new DAW transition for a longtime Sonar player ....LOL
Cheers.Frank
 

The basics in Reaper are very easy to pull off.  Not delved any deeper than that currently.  I also downloaded Mixbus ($49 - good deal).  Definitely not as intuitive as Reaper or SONAR and will require more learning.
 
 

azslow3
My first problems with Reaper:
* crash playing live with 2 soft synth routed from one armed track, with the keyboard duplicating notes on 2 channels. Not immediately, but I always get the crash after 3-5 minutes. May be one of 2 synth... but they produce no problems in almost identical project but with different routing. Will investigate when I have time.
* "cracks" from Rea reverb. After "Save as..." the project and recording new content. Original project has no such effect. Funny. So also to be understood.
 
If someone think I am negative... at the same point of investigations with Sonar X1, I had only one question: "does this program can do ANYTHING without crashing?". So no, I am rather happy to hit just 2 problems

I think I might know the answer to your second issue. ReaVerb is high precision for mastering convolution verb, BUT there are some check boxes at the bottom to make it more CPU friendly and to make it more zero latency.  Seems like I always
check both boxes when I'm using it.

JoeHans
Is there a proper arranger track in Reaper like in Cubase and S1?

I have not advanced myself to this point, but: https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/power-arranging-reaper
 

JoeHans
Is there a proper arranger track in Reaper like in Cubase and S1?

 
This might give you an idea of how it works.

https://www.youtube.com/w...ure=youtu.be&t=704

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JoeHans
Is there a proper arranger track in Reaper like in Cubase and S1?

Use Régions , it's even enhanced in the last update where régions can overlap but easier to manipulate
 
Amigos , are you guyz succed to make takes in midi ?  i mean like for exemple ezdrummer , record kik +dnr , stop record hh on the same track and it create another take ect ..
 
My takes option is checked but i doesn't create takes like in audio mode ....

There are two options you might have a look at. One says "hear all takes" or "play all takes" (I'm not at my DAW right now), and the other option is "Free Item Positioning" which has an effect on whether all takes will be identical in length or not.

the_user_formally_known_as_glennbo

JoeHans
Is there a proper arranger track in Reaper like in Cubase and S1?

 
This might give you an idea of how it works.

https://www.youtube.com/w...ure=youtu.be&t=704

Thanks! That explained it clearly. Looks better than arranging in Sonar and I think I could live with this.
 
I'm still torn between Cubase, Studio One and Reaper. All seem like very good DAWs but for different reasons. All this comparison makes my head hurt. 

I'll tell you what -
I've been playing around recording some guitar tracks.
I still have to get my head around how the "lanes" and "takes" work, and how to clear them out and organise them etc - but it is running at *way* lower latencies than I could get in SONAR.
So far, it's working perfectly at 64 samples, and I put it down to 32, and it played fine (with CPU higher - as expected). I'll need to record at these settings - and add more FX and audio tracks to stress it a bit better - but I could *never* play at latencies like this in SONAR (even with these small amounts of tracks).
 
I'm still on the learning curve - but I'm pretty sure this will do everything I need it to ;-) 

jbraner
it is running at *way* lower latencies than I could get in SONAR.
So far, it's working perfectly at 64 samples, and I put it down to 32, and it played fine (with CPU higher - as expected). I'll need to record at these settings - and add more FX and audio tracks to stress it a bit better - but I could *never* play at latencies like this in SONAR (even with these small amounts of tracks).

That was my first experience with it too. Then I found out I could leave it at those low latency settings and even pull stuff off like recording through an amp sim way late into a project because I was still running at 64 samples latency, even with a bunch of tracks and a bunch of FX already in use.