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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 02:23:02 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's a negative for me. Otherwise, I really like the new theme, but for practicality's sake, I'm sticking with the old one.
 




It will be better to introduce an option to enable or disable full colorization. 




Its not quite as simple as that unfortunately. Since this is a dark theme the colors of the track controls and text conflict with the colorization of the tracks so this was intentionally not colorized for the entire strip.



So all you guys who desperately need full colourization might need a trip to mercury for a while. Meanwhile Bakers could do some update to make the colours bit more apparent. 


 
I can't help wondering why people who seem to love Tungsten don't use Panu's Duckbar if they really find a dark theme so much better than the default gray theme (I love the default theme, so I've never even considered using Duckbar). Is it because Duckbar isn't compatible with the current version of SONAR (I don't think so, according to the explanation in the above link)? Or do the full-colored strips in the default theme lose their colors when a Duckbar theme is applied (I've just found this image, but the post is from November 2014 when SONAR was X3). Or is it just because people are too lazy to install Duckbar or maybe the default gray theme is actually already good enough?

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 02:57:50 (permalink)
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I can't help wondering why people who seem to love Tungsten don't use Panu's Duckbar if they really find a dark theme so much better than the default gray theme (I love the default theme, so I've never even considered using Duckbar). Is it because Duckbar isn't compatible with the current version of SONAR (I don't think so, according to the explanation in the above link)? Or do the full-colored strips in the default theme lose their colors when a Duckbar theme is applied (I've just found this image, but the post is from November 2014 when SONAR was X3). Or is it just because people are too lazy to install Duckbar or maybe the default gray theme is actually already good enough?




Because installing a third party, unofficial add-on not supported by Cakewalk to modify Sonar is very different to using a factory feature.
 
No offence intended towards duckbar - I have never installed it so have no idea of its functionality. 

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 03:17:06 (permalink)
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I can't help wondering why people who seem to love Tungsten don't use Panu's Duckbar ...

Because installing a third party, unofficial add-on not supported by Cakewalk to modify Sonar is very different to using a factory feature.

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 03:34:20 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's a negative for me. Otherwise, I really like the new theme, but for practicality's sake, I'm sticking with the old one.
 




It will be better to introduce an option to enable or disable full colorization. 




Its not quite as simple as that unfortunately. Since this is a dark theme the colors of the track controls and text conflict with the colorization of the tracks so this was intentionally not colorized for the entire strip.



So all you guys who desperately need full colourization might need a trip to mercury for a while. Meanwhile Bakers could do some update to make the colours bit more apparent. 


 
I can't help wondering why people who seem to love Tungsten don't use Panu's Duckbar if they really find a dark theme so much better than the default gray theme (I love the default theme, so I've never even considered using Duckbar). Is it because Duckbar isn't compatible with the current version of SONAR (I don't think so, according to the explanation in the above link)? Or do the full-colored strips in the default theme lose their colors when a Duckbar theme is applied (I've just found this image, but the post is from November 2014 when SONAR was X3). Or is it just because people are too lazy to install Duckbar or maybe the default gray theme is actually already good enough?


Too lazy?
 
I suggest you be a little more careful bandying insults around

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 03:43:40 (permalink)
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Too lazy?
 
I suggest you be a little more careful bandying insults around

 
Asking a question is different from insulting, if you didn't know.
There are people who are too lazy to do something. For example, I'm too lazy to install azslow's control surface plugin. 

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 03:49:01 (permalink)
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Because installing a third party, unofficial add-on not supported by Cakewalk to modify Sonar is very different to using a factory feature.

 
But they should at least give it a try if a dark theme is so important (maybe they have tried already?). I use many third-party plugins (including free ones) that aren't really "supported" by CW. Some of them don't work perfectly in SONAR, but at least I give them a try. 

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 03:59:16 (permalink)
It's nothing to do with being lazy mate, I simply do not have enough time  - every minute I get to spend in my studio is absolutely precious to me and I have far more pressing matters to deal with than registering/installing/learning features which aren't officially supported by Cakewalk.

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 04:12:21 (permalink)
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It's nothing to do with being lazy mate, I simply do not have enough time  - every minute I get to spend in my studio is absolutely precious to me and I have far more pressing matters to deal with than registering/installing/learning features which aren't officially supported by Cakewalk.

 
Thanks, I probably don't really know the meaning of the English word lazy. I thought it was like "I know I should do it now, but I find it bothersome so I'll do it later..." (which applies to my not installing some useful tools created by other users). But in your case it's clearly busy not lazy. So, sorry if my statement felt insulting to you. 

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 04:18:42 (permalink)
No worries, I've not had my first coffee yet

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 04:20:03 (permalink)
Ah yes, that makes sense. :)

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 04:40:51 (permalink)
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Because installing a third party, unofficial add-on not supported by Cakewalk to modify Sonar is very different to using a factory feature.

 
But they should at least give it a try if a dark theme is so important (maybe they have tried already?). I use many third-party plugins (including free ones) that aren't really "supported" by CW. Some of them don't work perfectly in SONAR, but at least I give them a try. 


You are right - and if I cared enough about the colours I certainly would have given it a try:)  I can understand peoples caution though. Most use vst's that are third  party, but that is what vst is designed for. Changing aspects of the program/code that at that stage were not designed to be changed naturally makes people more cautious. No one wants to add unnecessary variables that may result in instability.
 
On the other hand, now I can change the colours with a single selection without any risk. 

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 13:52:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2016/05/30 16:40:59
When you read comments from the bakers telling us how much work it is to build a theme, it just shows how much work Panu did to give us Duckbar. And he did it without a pay check in his "spare" time. It makes me wonder.

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 14:07:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2016/05/31 18:12:26
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When you read comments from the bakers telling us how much work it is to build a theme, it just shows how much work Panu did to give us Duckbar. And he did it without a pay check in his "spare" time. It makes me wonder.

When people have free time, some people are jogging, some are playing football, some are watching TV, etc. Most of them are doing so "for free". And so there are people which play music, create mods or programs during free time. I have heard about one person who repair bikes almost for nothing while he is employed professor. There are many ways to "kill time" which can look confusing for other

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 15:25:46 (permalink)
I'm having the same problem. my focusrite 18i8 is not showing in the outputs so I can monitor from the box thru headphones.
never had a problem before.
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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 16:32:16 (permalink)
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When you read comments from the bakers telling us how much work it is to build a theme, it just shows how much work Panu did to give us Duckbar. And he did it without a pay check in his "spare" time. It makes me wonder.




I downloaded Duckbar again a couple days ago, and the theme portion seems to simply replace the PNG references, so that part would not interfere with the application, just change its appearance. The other portions I could not speak to (I am not running Duckbar as an overlay).
 
Huge +1 to the amount of work Panu went to for Duckbar, since even the seek-and-destroy required for the png files alone is not intuitive. The work he has done is anything but trivial.
 
If Cakewalk went as far as to make the UI graphics an easily accessible and mapped "Resource" folder, every SONAR user could easily tweak its contents via batch surgical replacement, which could even leverage the community folks who like to do 3D graphics... what a novel concept... slap "highly innovative" on it, and it might get some real attention

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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 17:03:16 (permalink)
Please help - I don't know when this started happening but Command Center is not showing the latest updates anymore. It thinks the latest version is "Manchester Update 1" and that I am on the latest version. I've downloaded and installed the latest version of Command Center (1.1.5.0) but this did not fix the problem.
 
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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 17:13:35 (permalink)
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Please help - I don't know when this started happening but Command Center is not showing the latest updates anymore. It thinks the latest version is "Manchester Update 1" and that I am on the latest version. I've downloaded and installed the latest version of Command Center (1.1.5.0) but this did not fix the problem.
 
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Hi. Have you tried to logout and back in again to CCC? It could be worth a try.
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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/30 21:23:23 (permalink)
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When you read comments from the bakers telling us how much work it is to build a theme, it just shows how much work Panu did to give us Duckbar. And he did it without a pay check in his "spare" time. It makes me wonder.

When people have free time, some people are jogging, some are playing football, some are watching TV, etc. Most of them are doing so "for free". And so there are people which play music, create mods or programs during free time. I have heard about one person who repair bikes almost for nothing while he is employed professor. There are many ways to "kill time" which can look confusing for other


My next door neighbour when I was young was a senior engineer for Kia cars. He used to prefer spending his free time helping me fix my old car than be with the in laws
 

 
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Re: SONAR 2016.05 Update now available 2016/05/31 17:03:35 (permalink)
I had problems with my focusrite(56liquid), too after installing the update. i installed the older saffire driver(3.4) instead of the last one(3.7). Now everything works
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