ORIGINAL: Marah Mag

Hi MUSEd. You raise an interesting point.

To what extent are the new features of Sonar 8 -- excluding the plugins -- so baked-in to the code that they couldn't be somehow excluded or turned off, which would allow the significant performance enhancements and other fixes and tweaks to the core product to be made available as a final update to Sonar 7, whether for free or for some token fee?

Just wondering.

Would be interesting to see the comparison chart for Sonar 8 Producer and Studio expanded to show how they compare to Sonar 7.
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/English/studio.asp

ORIGINAL: Timur

Well, if Sonar omited the first buffer then buffer size plays a major role in how you perceive this problem, it effectively doubles the audio-interface latency. If you're using a small buffer size of only 64 samples then one missing buffer isn't showing up that clearly (64+64), less than 2ms at 44.1 khz. But if you're using 512 samples then one missing buffer is over 10ms long (512+512 =1024). That's only audio-interface latency, plugins may bring their own buffers and latency with them.

omited

ORIGINAL: bitman

Sooner or later (Sometimes the next day), marketing discovers engineering has a good idea that can make them look good. I am one of those who believes that without engineering, marketing and sales would not exist.

I have personally seen security access cards keep sales out of the engineering building completely.

With their pitiful little faces pressed to the windows.

God is an engineer.

ORIGINAL: MUSEd

ORIGINAL: billruys
Hey, MUSEd. What latency do you usually have Sonar set at? I ask because I play VSTi's live in Sonar 7 all the time. There is nothing wrong with Sonar 7 that would cause you this problem. As long as I have latency low, there is no lag. I have two DAWs, one with MOTU hardware and one with M-Audio hardware, and both are very playable in real-time.

I'm not downplaying your problem at all, but suggesting that maybe the problem lies somewhere other than Sonar itself, such as your soundcard. You should be able to play VSTi's live with the software you already have.

No latency has no effect on this - it occurs whether it's low or high. I'm referring to the problem I raised here:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1472244&mpage=1&key=������

several people in that thread stated it's a long standing and well known problem. Clearly it doesn't affect all systems and on mine I've found I only get it if I use my NI KORE drivers but if I use my Virus Ti drivers it's OK so I've switched to them for now. However it clearly is not just a problem with certain plugins - it affects them all, and it clearly is something that has been known for a good time (some people said it was even present in V6).

ORIGINAL: Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

Marah,

You are reading way too much into it. My post was indeed my personal notes that I posted and it was not intended at all for marketing consumption as of last night :-) I collected most of the information last evening and posted it when the marketing guys were asleep<g> Heck it wasn't even formatted properly.
This morning after all the feedback to this thread, a bunch of folks though it was useful information to describe the product better for the more experienced users who want to know all the gory details.

Hence it was added as an addendum to the existing marketing materials and added to the promo. There are and were no ulterior motives at all. I'm sorry to disappoint that there is no X-Files conspiracy theory here :-)