tom1


hey Eratu:
 
I've only been a bronze member for two days so I don't think that qualifies me yet as knowing what the hell I'm talking about,

 
but I think your e-mail is the longest in the history of the Caklewalk forum.

 
When I have an extra day or two I might actually read it.   :)

mike_mccue


Billy, the reason I give a crap is because so many years ago I remember demo'ing Pro Audio 6 and thinking... this is on a PC? I can afford to do this at my house right now? Wow.

Then I was amazed to see native real time effects become a reality.

Then I was amazed to see VSTi actually work and in some ways surpass dedicated hardware.

But I have been consistently disappointed with several things:

1) Cakewalk seems unfocused... they certainly haven't focused on stream lining the core features of a DAW... the work arounds are barely tolerable.

2) A lot of Cakewalk users seem offended by criticism of Cakewalk's products and they defend the multi step work arounds and near misses as they validate their disgust at those of us who dare to point out the obvious.

3) Cakewalk has morphed the image of their top tier package from an ambitious full featured Digital Audio Workstation into a discount bulk pack quantity over quality commodity grade home entertainment consumer package.

The reason I complain is because 17 years ago I had faith that someday a IBM PC platform product could place pro music production into the hands of anyone interested... with out compromise... at the least possible cost.

I personally think that Cakewalk has been distracted with all kinds of smoke and mirror features and the all you can eat mentality. I am dismayed at their track record of releasing buggy features that are left unfixed for years, and in some instances a decade. I feel it suggests that the internal culture at Cakewalk does not feel a sense of responsibility to their existing customers. e.g. If I owned a company that rolled out the LP 64 efx debacle... I'd make it right... because that's the right thing to do. When I managed other peoples companies... I did just that sort of thing... and the owners learned to like it. ;-)

I recognize that SONAR excells at many things that you will not enjoy elsewhere... which is another reason that I complain.... SONAR definitely has the potential to be the very best DAW. But the road map doesn't seem pointed in a particular direction... and there is certainly no indication that Cakewalk has an agenda which prioritizes fixing up what they already have sold us.

Anyways, That's why I give a crap. :-)

all the best,
mike

kubalibre


Pro Tools vs. Sonar is like Sylvester Stallone vs. Chuck Norris

- They are both action heros
- They get the job done
- They both kick butt
- They acted in a bunch of movies

it´s just Sylvester Stallone is an A celebrity and has more charisma, Chuck Norris plays in B movies and TV. 

LJB


I am curious - I had to sit through another "PT just sounds better"-type of sermon yesterday. So, is anyone on this forum who is running PT9 and Sonar8.5 on the same hardware willing to do a simple test for me? Just record a CD (something like Fourplay's Between The Sheets with lots of detail and dynamics) from a CD player with the cleanest possible signal path into both Sonar and PT without changing anything else, keep all your faders on zero, route it to a buss and bounce both out like two mixdowns? Let's see if one sounds different to the other. I would really like to know!

• CD via SPDIF into audio track
• Audio track into stereo bus
• Stereo bus bounced to disk

• CD via SPDIF into audio track
• Audio track into stereo bus
• Stereo bus bounced to disk