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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 17:42:10
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eratu
For example, if we actually break down the SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9 question based on features and capabilities, it's pretty obvious most top DAWs -- including SONAR -- can hold their heads up high with many, many positive talking points and features that any discerning, rational, intelligent DAW user will easily understand.
Not sure if we need to list those features ;), they should be pretty obvious, right? From x64 support to unlimited tracks, to more extensive MIDI tools, to price, etc., etc., etc... Sonar has a solid foundation feature-wise.
The problem is that a feature list is only that. A feature list. What really counts is how the features are implemented and thus how it is to actually work with a DAW. Sonar has an impressive feature list but when it comes to implementation, Pro Tools wins hands down. I am guessing most people that say that Sonar competes (or even bests) PT don't really have that much experience working with PT. (And I don't mean LE). I have used Sonar (and CWPA) for over a decade and know it well. I have been using Pro Tools professionally for about 7 years now. Pro Tools is a much faster DAW to work in. You can edit and mix and be creative much faster in PT. The only feature right now where PT looses big time is the lack of faster than real time bounce but even that tends to not really be an issue in daily use. There are ways to work around that and not lose any time. I agree with the rest of your post. UnderTow
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 18:27:14
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First: I'm calling you on this - spill the name (if you got the guts). You're calling me on this? If I have the guts???  What are you... 10 years old? In my line of work, I've met a lot of "industry folks". Being a long time Cakewalk user, I've met some "upper-tier" Cakewalk users. You'd be suprised who's using Sonar... I had no idea this particular producer/engineer was a Sonar user. At one point, I had talked to one of the best mastering engineers in the world (for several months) before I realized who he was. He didn't make a big deal out of it... because he had nothing to prove. He was just calling to talk shop about DAWs... like a normal guy/gal.
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 18:45:40
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I think that there is even a chance that it could backfire on the PT camp.
Basically, they are now venturing into Cakewalk's backyard. So they are likely to have to answer a lot of questions that start with... "How come?"
How come SONAR has unlimited tracks and I have to spend a lot more money for it?
How come SONAR can use all of my RAM with their x64 version and PT9 doesn't?
How come SONAR works with my (name your interface) and PT 9 doesn't?
I admit that I am looking at the PT9 software but it's just another toy to me. I would more than likely do my upgrade to X1 and sometime if the money was available and I wanted some bragging points, I'd pick up PT 9 also.
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 18:47:07
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@Undertow: I don't understand. Are you talking about PTHD? Because that would be a different beast altogether (although it's all under-the-hood).
How is PT "faster"? (serious question, no sarcasm). The only thing I can think of is that it supports ripple editing. Are their other things about it that gives it a better workflow?
@Jim: haha, yeah that's pretty funny. But on the other hand I don't see why you can't drop a name if you know someone who uses SONAR. Are they wanting it to be a secret?
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 18:50:22
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from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional
"Because of the personal and confidential nature of many professional services and thus the necessity to place a great deal of trust in them, most professionals are held up to strict ethical and moral regulations."
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 19:08:42
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I don't even know why are we discussing on a comparison of two product that nobody own yet !!!
And a lot of folks don't pay attention in the the hudge difference between artits and engineers....engineers making interviews ,and talking about their stuff and all is just entertainement and that just respond to a demand .....am i going to use waves because Tony Maserati made it or use it , hell no !! is it because of PT that this or that engineer do good mixes , hell no , is PT a waranty of professionnal results , hell no !
Is PT the best daw ? it is for how they use daw ....is it the best for me and my use : no , for my boy DJ , no ! (Abelton for him) ect .....for those ho wlike or prefer the PT workflow to sonar and have no limitation with the otha sides , great for you .....
let's speak about X1 !
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 21:27:24
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But on the other hand I don't see why you can't drop a name if you know someone who uses SONAR. Are they wanting it to be a secret? I don't feel comfortable dropping this name... or I'd have already done so. It's not to be mysterious or to fabricate/etc. When I got the call, I assumed the machine would be for running ProTools. We discussed the options, and the client decided that Sonar offered the necessary performance/features to do the job.
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 21:34:12
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Is PT the best daw ? it is for how they use daw ....is it the best for me and my use : no , for my boy DJ , no ! (Abelton for him) ect .....for those ho wlike or prefer the PT workflow to sonar and have no limitation with the otha sides , great for you ..... let's speak about X1 ! Well said Zo... I'm going to guess that your clients don't question what tools you choose to use. :-)
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 21:51:44
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It truly is down to preference at this point- ultimately, they are both amazing tools to make music with. I laugh at fools that try to tell me pro tools just "sounds better". I usually challenge them to finalize the same song and see whose sounds better. I think my confidence oozes through because I havent had a taker yet haha- I usually tell them, dont worry, it is ok that you dont know how to consolidate the project tracks so I can transfer to sonar. Just give me the session ;) Ill do it with M-powered LE with an m-audiuodelta 44 that is a fraction the cost of an M-box sitting in my studio that cant open 24/96 sessions lol Another thing I get a lot from people I do sessions with that usually work with pro tools- wow youre fast! And at the end of the project.... wow this sounds frikkin great! ;)
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 22:22:34
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Jim Roseberry
But on the other hand I don't see why you can't drop a name if you know someone who uses SONAR. Are they wanting it to be a secret?
I don't feel comfortable dropping this name... or I'd have already done so.
It's not to be mysterious or to fabricate/etc.
When I got the call, I assumed the machine would be for running ProTools.
We discussed the options, and the client decided that Sonar offered the necessary performance/features to do the job.
I respect Jim for saying this. Unless Jim (or Scott or any other pro builder) has an agreement to publish their list of clients (i.e. like on their website) I expect that they are not obligated to drop a name on this or any other forum.
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 22:48:42
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Jim Roseberry
I don't feel comfortable dropping this name... or I'd have already done so.
Well now you're just being coy. 
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 23:47:42
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X1 vs PT9?
There's no doubt that X1 is the best bang for the dollar and no doubt Cakewalk has that end of the market covered!
PT9: $599 + $40 (Dongle/Pace), plus I would most definitely want the Expansion Packs and the Heat, crikey mate now the budget has blown skyhigh and into orbit! Arhhhhhhh!!!!
I can understand if I was running a professional studio and just about all my clients kept nag, nag, nagging me about PT, then I might get PT9, but about those extras (expansions and the heat) LOL!!
The bottomline is; Getting pro quality end results can most definitely be achieved with a professional DAW such as; SONAR, it can even be done with Studio (if you already have a good set of mastering tools).
To be honest, I know of a band (friends) that had their initial recordings done on a Portastudio then mastered. Yes that's not a typo, I said; 'mastered'. The band got signed to a major on hearing the initial recordings on that Portastudio. So much for the Sonar vs Logic vs Cubase vs ProTools debates LOL!!
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/08 23:52:46
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All this arguing about PT9 Some points to consider. PT9 won't support features that rely on the PTHD hardware - makes sense to me PT9 does't support VST - what is a SONAR user who picks it up some time going to use for plugins? Most of our plugins are available as VST and .au for Mac but not all are available as RTAS for PT. PT9 offers advantages for the current PT user who has plugins and wants to take his mix on the road with a laptop. A PT9 purchase coming from a non-PT background will probably necessitate having to have the Complete Production Toolkit option for a cool $1900 or so. just go check out this link to see what you actually get for your money. eg. PT9 you can only record 32 simultaneous tracks SONAR eats it for breakfast hands down.
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 00:20:51
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and lunch and dinner, late night snack too
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 01:27:29
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Honestly, I try to carry as many DAWs as possible strictly for customer support. I deal with a lot of artists that have come from "studio A" and want their stuff remixed.
"Honestly, once it's in the computer, it's all 1's and 0's. A DAW is just a manipulator of DATA. There is no difference of sound or quality. So why the *@&# should it matter if I use Pro-Tools when I could get a better product from a DAW that I'm better at manipulating." -Me to every client that notices I'm using SONAR instead of ProTools. AMD Phenom X4 3.2GHz ASUS M3A78 4Gb Ram ATI Saphire 4870 1GB Producer 8.5.3 ProTools 9 Nuendo 5 Cubase 5 StudioLive 16.4.2 FireStudio Mobile
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 06:39:20
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My boxed copy of PT9 was put on a Fed Ex truck last night. I'm very enthusiastic about it. The whole discussion where someone suggests you should ruffle your feathers and stand up for your privilege to use what ever you can deliver results with is fine... but there are two factors that are not being discussed. 1) If your business is hospitality and service such as operating a recording studio or service... then your choice of a couch in the waiting room is every bit as important as your choice of DAW. Artists want to feel comfortable when they visit. If you are having to spend ANY time justifying your choice of DAW then you might as well not even buy a couch. 2) If you are scoring and producing incredibly beautiful, moving, inspirational multi track productions on SONAR and selling them to a production shop with distribution on a cable network then it is likely that the production house is working with you because you are a whole lot cheaper than an actual orchestra being recorded somewhere on (you guessed it) Pro Tools. So while I think all your accomplishments are fantastic and inspiring... I'll point out that there may be a reason that no one cares what you use. I mean this in a friendly way... I'm just saying that scoring for video, film and games is a new business... it's NOT the traditional business it used to be... except at the top budget level where they take Mr. Elfmans DP files and hire an orchestra to realize the goods. all the best, mike
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john5193
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 06:46:51
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I got my PT9 Box yesterday. Already I am happy with the ease of use with my StudioLive and it imports OMFs from SONAR seamlessly. Honestly I think it makes a great addition to my family of DAWs at my Studio and so will X1 in December.
"Honestly, once it's in the computer, it's all 1's and 0's. A DAW is just a manipulator of DATA. There is no difference of sound or quality. So why the *@&# should it matter if I use Pro-Tools when I could get a better product from a DAW that I'm better at manipulating." -Me to every client that notices I'm using SONAR instead of ProTools. AMD Phenom X4 3.2GHz ASUS M3A78 4Gb Ram ATI Saphire 4870 1GB Producer 8.5.3 ProTools 9 Nuendo 5 Cubase 5 StudioLive 16.4.2 FireStudio Mobile
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 07:42:26
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Agroup aske me few dayz ago to realize their album ,and then some aske me do you got pro tools , i said nop , he said damn , we recorded in a studio with pro tools , do we have to record again ......this is the question i have about my gear  patience and explanation is the rule ....
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 07:43:00
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My PT9 is on the way as well. Anyone who is doing client work for money in the production, or post-production industry knows the importance of inter and intra operability. PT9 now will sit much more comfortably in my environment. Sonar is still my number one mix tool. I also still feel more comfortable capturing location audio in Sonar.
The PT9 announcement is huge on several levels. As an example when Apple hardware was able to run Windows operating systems - they saw their sales explode and now in my environment they went from an 11 to 1 deficit to a 2.5 to 1 positive ratio. I suspect the ability to run PT just like every other daw (plus or minus the dongle) will tip a few folks to their camp that are single DAW users.
At least it looks like they eliminated their PT Essential product (and yes you could buy that one at Toys-R-Us). I wonder what that will mean to the light product lines such as X1 Essential - might that increase the sales of light products?
One of the very annoying things that I dislike about the commercials is that Avid did not really hit hard on the major points of this announcement for them IMO. Specifically to mention that PT is the 'best sounding DAW' simply is ridiculous. But I guess everyone has to justify some reason to buy software from one manufacturer over another.
I will be discussing the importance of this announcement in my audio class today - I can't wait to hear what my graduate students (who have been saving to buy an HD system) have to say.
Finally, it all comes down to functional reliability for me. I don't care one hoot about features if the product isn't reliable. I use Sonar because it has be uber-relaible for me / the company has proven to be customer focused / this community is the best in the world / Windows workstations have proven to be far far more economical to operate than my (4) OSX stations.
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 07:57:30
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I honestly don't see what the big deal about the dongle is. Almost ALL of the major Plug in companies use Ilok already. So what if you have to carry around a 40 dollar key chain. It is part of the business. What is wrong if companies want to make sure that piracy is kept in check. Honestly I think that items like the Ilok or dedicated hardware (UAD) is a good thing for the industry.
"Honestly, once it's in the computer, it's all 1's and 0's. A DAW is just a manipulator of DATA. There is no difference of sound or quality. So why the *@&# should it matter if I use Pro-Tools when I could get a better product from a DAW that I'm better at manipulating." -Me to every client that notices I'm using SONAR instead of ProTools. AMD Phenom X4 3.2GHz ASUS M3A78 4Gb Ram ATI Saphire 4870 1GB Producer 8.5.3 ProTools 9 Nuendo 5 Cubase 5 StudioLive 16.4.2 FireStudio Mobile
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 08:55:53
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I use about 15 different packages that require iLok and other than iLoks screwy website and sketchy update methods (which once caused one of my two iLoks to just turn off) I've never had any day to day problems with them or running the software protected by them. HOWEVER, my two iLoks are plugged into my studio computer and don't travel ANYWHERE. Quite honestly there john5193, ol pal, you ARE NOT carrying a "$40 key chain" you may be carrying a "$4000 key chain" around so nonchalantly. If you lose that $40 key chain or drop it and break it...which is quite possible for ANY key chain...you are up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle. No foolin.
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:05:03
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yorolpal
I use about 15 different packages that require iLok and other than iLoks screwy website and sketchy update methods (which once caused one of my two iLoks to just turn off) I've never had any day to day problems with them or running the software protected by them. HOWEVER, my two iLoks are plugged into my studio computer and don't travel ANYWHERE. Quite honestly there john5193, ol pal, you ARE NOT carrying a "$40 key chain" you may be carrying a "$4000 key chain" around so nonchalantly. If you lose that $40 key chain or drop it and break it...which is quite possible for ANY key chain...you are up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle. No foolin.
Oh I am well aware of the value of my Ilok. Hence the reason I have the backup plan and 5 blank Iloks easily accessible just in case the unthinkable happens. I was just poking sarcastic humor about people complaining over a method of piracy control. Nothing more. And yes...the two hours of down time that occurs when I have to get a new Ilok up and running when I lose/break mine (I have to travel between my primary studio and 2 others) is sometimes annoying, but that is why i pay the $30/year for the backup plan. And the actual software value of my Ilok is just under $3800, but great guess with $4000. The $40 was purely a metaphor for the ilok itself, not the information there-in. I was assuming that if you have thousands of dollars of Auths. on it that you would also have the backup plan just in case. Not being able to take my UAD 2 card with me though is quite annoying.
"Honestly, once it's in the computer, it's all 1's and 0's. A DAW is just a manipulator of DATA. There is no difference of sound or quality. So why the *@&# should it matter if I use Pro-Tools when I could get a better product from a DAW that I'm better at manipulating." -Me to every client that notices I'm using SONAR instead of ProTools. AMD Phenom X4 3.2GHz ASUS M3A78 4Gb Ram ATI Saphire 4870 1GB Producer 8.5.3 ProTools 9 Nuendo 5 Cubase 5 StudioLive 16.4.2 FireStudio Mobile
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:15:00
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I'm very surprised by the number of people using or about to use PT here .... is it pure fantasm , inferiority complex , hype , or real need or use , i don't know , just surprised ....i might order a copy of the 9 to understand .... nope ,kidding here ...
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:23:08
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yorolpal
I use about 15 different packages that require iLok and other than iLoks screwy website and sketchy update methods (which once caused one of my two iLoks to just turn off) I've never had any day to day problems with them or running the software protected by them. HOWEVER, my two iLoks are plugged into my studio computer and don't travel ANYWHERE. Quite honestly there john5193, ol pal, you ARE NOT carrying a "$40 key chain" you may be carrying a "$4000 key chain" around so nonchalantly. If you lose that $40 key chain or drop it and break it...which is quite possible for ANY key chain...you are up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle. No foolin.
With this in mind .... does anyone use Pace's Zero Downtime? ( https://www.ilok.com/ilok-zero-downtime.html ) I have not paid for this service with my current iLok, but may. Anyone doing this. And by the way .... I can't say enough about the sensible and customer friendly manner in which Cakewalk deals with registration and installation - please never ever change this. I have a post over at the DUC (or is it AUC now?) regarding a failed PT install that was unbelievable .... Cakefolk please stay away from this!!!! -D
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:27:00
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Zo
I'm very surprised by the number of people using or about to use PT here .... is pure fantasm , inferiority complex , hype , or real need or use , i don't know , just surprised ....i might order a copy of the 9 to understand ....
nope ,kidding here ...
It's about proper customer service. It's about wanting to fully encompass your art in knowledge and ability. It's about not having an elitist attitude and expanding your horizons in Ability and experience. Fantasm? No. Inferiority? No. Hype? No. Real need? Depends on context. Your attitude is a pure elitist attitude of a bigot and nothing more.
"Honestly, once it's in the computer, it's all 1's and 0's. A DAW is just a manipulator of DATA. There is no difference of sound or quality. So why the *@&# should it matter if I use Pro-Tools when I could get a better product from a DAW that I'm better at manipulating." -Me to every client that notices I'm using SONAR instead of ProTools. AMD Phenom X4 3.2GHz ASUS M3A78 4Gb Ram ATI Saphire 4870 1GB Producer 8.5.3 ProTools 9 Nuendo 5 Cubase 5 StudioLive 16.4.2 FireStudio Mobile
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:29:11
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yorolpal
I use about 15 different packages that require iLok and other than iLoks screwy website and sketchy update methods (which once caused one of my two iLoks to just turn off) I've never had any day to day problems with them or running the software protected by them. HOWEVER, my two iLoks are plugged into my studio computer and don't travel ANYWHERE. Quite honestly there john5193, ol pal, you ARE NOT carrying a "$40 key chain" you may be carrying a "$4000 key chain" around so nonchalantly. If you lose that $40 key chain or drop it and break it...which is quite possible for ANY key chain...you are up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle. No foolin.
With this in mind .... does anyone use Pace's Zero Downtime? ( https://www.ilok.com/ilok-zero-downtime.html )
I have not paid for this service with my current iLok, but may. Anyone doing this.
And by the way .... I can't say enough about the sensible and customer friendly manner in which Cakewalk deals with registration and installation - please never ever change this. I have a post over at the DUC (or is it AUC now?) regarding a failed PT install that was unbelievable .... Cakefolk please stay away from this!!!!
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I do use the ZDT service. I have had to make use of it 4 times. I am a very clumsy person so the average life of an Ilok with me is about 5 months or so. :/ It is worth it if you are clumsy like me or just work in a non Ilok friendly environment.
"Honestly, once it's in the computer, it's all 1's and 0's. A DAW is just a manipulator of DATA. There is no difference of sound or quality. So why the *@&# should it matter if I use Pro-Tools when I could get a better product from a DAW that I'm better at manipulating." -Me to every client that notices I'm using SONAR instead of ProTools. AMD Phenom X4 3.2GHz ASUS M3A78 4Gb Ram ATI Saphire 4870 1GB Producer 8.5.3 ProTools 9 Nuendo 5 Cubase 5 StudioLive 16.4.2 FireStudio Mobile
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:33:40
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Here's the reality for me... I called my colleagues that have the HD suites in town yesterday and told them my I was ordering PT9... they all were incredibly enthusiastic and invited to call on them with questions at any moment. One person has a string of platinum hits, one has a few Academy Awards, another has made most of the indie pop rock records in our area for the past 25 years. A few of the guys make regional hip hop stuff that sells really well. Another group of guys work for the "mothership". They were all always very nice about my choice of SONAR for my song sketch studio... and when Logic made it's evolution they finally *got* what I was doing with SONAR out here... but we could never talk shop about DAWs. That has formerly just been too awkward. Now we can. Furthermore we all anticipate that I will be more helpful in their facilities as I get back into the ProTools work flow. It's really simple and at $599 + ready to use with all my gear... it's a dirt cheap way to join the party. best regards, mike
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:37:53
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Hey john5193 , pure elitist you call me .... :) lol
can you just tell me with you need PT , sonar ,cubase , nuendo .... don't you meet redondancy here .....
calling me ellitist without knowing me is risky ....i have a laptop for testin : osx , vsiat , xp on :
presonus studio one , logic 8, protools 8 and cubase 5 on , just to be able to compare , and i'm more than never using sonar .....i gotta master pretty all daws cause of my students , so i know what i'm talking about ....and ellitist i'm not
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:40:56
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Nice explanation Mike , i understand your point ..., students was a reason , my "artists" was another one , i'm able to tell them to do this and that by phone when i send them tracks as they used what the got told to use (cubase for some , logic ....) so i feel you
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Re:SONAR X1 vs Pro Tools 9?
2010/11/09 09:44:48
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Zo
Hey john5193 , pure elitist you call me .... :) lol
can you just tell me with you need PT , sonar ,cubase , nuendo .... don't you meet redondancy here .....
calling me ellitist without knowing me is risky ....i have a laptop for testin : osx , vsiat , xp on :
presonus studio one , logic 8, protools 8 and cubase 5 on , just to be able to compare , and i'm more than never using sonar .....i gotta master pretty all daws cause of my students , so i know what i'm talking about ....and ellitist i'm not
You are right. Upon further review of the "version" of you that you put out to the world, I retract my claim that you are elitist. Instead I believe you to be obtuse. Sorry for calling you elitist. I should have taken the time to better ascertain the proper description of your comments.
post edited by john5193 - 2010/11/09 09:55:31
"Honestly, once it's in the computer, it's all 1's and 0's. A DAW is just a manipulator of DATA. There is no difference of sound or quality. So why the *@&# should it matter if I use Pro-Tools when I could get a better product from a DAW that I'm better at manipulating." -Me to every client that notices I'm using SONAR instead of ProTools. AMD Phenom X4 3.2GHz ASUS M3A78 4Gb Ram ATI Saphire 4870 1GB Producer 8.5.3 ProTools 9 Nuendo 5 Cubase 5 StudioLive 16.4.2 FireStudio Mobile
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