In my ears version 2 sound abit more tight with more definition than version 1 ,version 1 have less definition when theres alot of sound,i feel the sound is "All over" like it is too mutch sound going on. I guess it's a matter of taste and what equippment its played back on as well. version 2 sounded not as load as version 1, maybe the bass on vers 2 is abit loud in some parts. Anyways version 2 here..... now can u reval the DAW used :P I would guess : 1 : Sonar 2 : Protools

Ok, I willl disclose all now.
I think that one of the most telling things about this poll is that so many of you thought that the one you prefer (whichever that one was) was "probably pro tools".   It's as if we want to set ourselves up for dissapointment!

Having the first link be named Girl2 was an accident and made it pretty difficult to get an exact tally but I think in the end it was about 60-40% in favor of Girl2 (which was thew first link).

Interestingly, most people who picked a favorite said that their choice was a "much better mix"- some even calling the other "obviously or intentionally flawed".

That's not how this was done at all.

My longtime friend Frank and I wrote and recorded this song- we have both been engineering/producing at my studio, BlixYZ for about 6 years. 

Frank mixed the song at his house on his protools digi003 after we cut it at the studio.  I love his mix (Girl2), but I wanted something more "tape-smudged and warm".  His was punchy and awesome, but I just wanted to take a stab at it.

I used Sonar for "Girl" (the 2nd link) and, after mixing for a couple hours,  spent only a minute slapping in some mastering plugins (Vintage Channel, Boost 11) but I made no effort to get it LOUD.  I don't know much about Frank's process- just that we have a bunch of new Waves Plugins and that he was havin a ball trying them out- trying to get a ballsy, punchy sound.  I just found his slightly more abrasive than I was imagining it.

There was no evil genius or ulterior motive behind this- I just thought that the community might like hearing two different mixes of the same exact data on two different platforms- even if the mixing engineer and plugins were different!

Also, I wanted some unbiased opinions so I should know which version to finish and put on our album this summer.

Although the results are hard to interpret, I think that Frank's mix is slightly more popular than mine- I do really like it.  Since he's the guitarist, he spent more time getting them lovely- like adding tremolo and balls and crunch.  But I like my drum sound better and my vocals as well (I'm the vocalist so I gave them some love, naturally).

Thanks for all who listened.  Thanks to all who commented.   I said at the beginning that I would wait a few days before releasing the truth- guess not many of you read the original post carefully.  But I felt tlike the natives were getting restless and Bapu was holding his breath......

Next time (if there is one), I promise to take a little more care making the choices more clear, and maybe even making it a bit more scientific (that just wasn't my goal this time).

And to those of you who accuse me of staging this whole thing just to get you to listen to my song- that's ridiculous.  I did it to get you to listen to it TWICE :)

I prefer The second one!

is saw studio on this list?

I think we need a thread about all DAWs being the same.....

I'm too long with SONAR to drop it.  The work flow is too good.  I really fly along most of the time.  But this "Clarity" is the holy grail I've been chasing for years.  

My mixes are usually busy and always found them a little saturated and lacking space and clarity.  Don't get me wrong.  I have great mixes but just not what I know they can be when compared the some of my fav producers.

Its beginning to dawn on me that maybe PT mixing will get me there with far less work.  

I'm a little depressed now... ;<  

moffdnb


I'm too long with SONAR to drop it.  The work flow is too good.  I really fly along most of the time.  But this "Clarity" is the holy grail I've been chasing for years.  

My mixes are usually busy and always found them a little saturated and lacking space and clarity.  Don't get me wrong.  I have great mixes but just not what I know they can be when compared the some of my fav producers.

Its beginning to dawn on me that maybe PT mixing will get me there with far less work.  

I'm a little depressed now... ;<  

No way - you'll end up in the same spot regardless. There's no magic to mixing in PT that causes things to get "clearer". It's about EQ, compression and musical arrangement.

And be careful - some of that initial "clarity" that one hears is, at times, actually top-end harshness - and it's quickly fatiguing to the listener.

@Brandon
Wow, you really hit the nail on the head.
I completely neglected the bass- not on pupose, just wasn't thinking about it yet.
When I listen back, the bass is the one thing I wanted to "fix".
Frank is a bassist- an amzing one at that- and he is definitely better at getting a killer bass sound than I.  In this case, I forgot to even try :)
Posting these mixes was done entirely on a whim!
Still, I would like to meet Frank half-way on the grit and punch of his guitar sounds.

BlixYZ


@Brandon
Wow, you really hit the nail on the head.
I completely neglected the bass- not on pupose, just wasn't thinking about it yet.
When I listen back, the bass is the one thing I wanted to "fix".
Frank is a bassist- an amzing one at that- and he is definitely better at getting a killer bass sound than I.  In this case, I forgot to even try :)
Posting these mixes was done entirely on a whim!
Still, I would like to meet Frank half-way on the grit and punch of his guitar sounds.

Very very interesting James - and make perfect sense regarding the bass parts.

I'm just laughing right now thinking about all the people who thought I was playing some kind of trick- somebody said that I probably did both in Sonar just to prove a point or something.  Neat idea- I'm just not sure why so many are so cynical.  Who hurt you, baby?

I'm not like those other guys ;)

What plugs were used in the SONAR mix may I ask?

Blix do you think you could replicate Franks mix in SONAR?   not asking you to do it of course (though it would be interesting).  But could you achieve the clarity he did?

If it was meant to compare Apples to Asparagus, it achieved it's goal.

Middleman


If it was meant to compare Apples Bing The Berciless to Asparagus Asparapuss, it achieved it's goal.

CHB'd

Strummer, why so much hate?
20,028 posts and mine offends?
If it's so pointless, walk away and don't wast another precious second on it.
Why you keep comin back?
Just trying to learn and have some fun here!  (sheesh)