Hi Billy,
 
Definitely report back with your Win7/new hardware/X1c experience.
I have to believe it'll work *significantly* better...  

Jim Roseberry


Hi Billy,
 
Definitely report back with your Win7/new hardware/X1c experience.
I have to believe it'll work *significantly* better...  

Jim,

If my experiment goes well, I may just call you for a system.  Time is really not on my side lately -- though I do like putting together my own system too.

Once again, redundantly I'll say -- I THINK *X1* is just really picky about the system config.  So I agree the forthcoming experiment (starting tonight btw) will result in /yield a better outcome.

Maybe this is just X1's karma forcing me to go fully 64bit whether I want to or not LOL.

I expect the m-audio fast track pro to arrive this evening and should be able to start the experimenting at least.

You know I'll keep y'all posted ;)

FastBikerBoy


Hi Billy

as you know my experience has been pretty good with X1 from day one. If it's any help my hardware is pretty under powered but I do run Win 7 x64 on my DAW and x32 on my laptop.

Perhaps Windows 7 may be the answer for you, I know it shouldn't have to be that way but hey software is software.

Let us know how it all goes anyway.

Hi Karl,

    I'll definitely keep everyone posted on my discoveries and progress.  The m-audio device got here already, so it's just a matter of my finding serious "experimental" time so to speak.

    And, yes, software is (almost) software LOL

I am pleased with X1.

The various components all need to be integrated a bit more seamlessly and I have a few small bugbears but I am satisfied. it would be nice to be able to double click on the browser bar or pro channel panes to minimize/expand.

I like the GUI also.

Gotcha.  I like that, may use it myself now and again.  So that girl is popular over in blighty?

She's actually from New York, but I think they're striking while the PR iron is hot over here.

I started a new project in X1 C and I can't report any problems nor any big differences from the B patch. I really like the Studio instruments. In this project I am using Battery 3 Kontakt 4 SI Bass and SI E piano plus my outboard synths. The sound is amazing.  A lot of work yet but it seems its going faster then in the past.  As for CPU spikes none here very little CPU usage.

I will say this with Panu's mod and track hi-lighting I feel as if its a new X1.

I will be doing some investigating into screen sets but I feel its a lot of trouble if I can't use them globally. Yes I know I can import them but I have too many projects for that to be something I would look forward to.

So far I am not unhappy with this patch but I don't see a whole lot to get excited about either. Still, I compliment CW for a good job.

Reading the posts here has been very interesting. I really feel for those having trouble and am happy for those like myself that are doing fine. I wish all were doing fine. 

....

ba_midi


RODAB: I notice you and Audiyo seem to be having similar issues - but neither of you mention exactly what they are or what type of systems you're running. I'm having issues too but it's been discussed elsewhere and here -- so I'm curious to know what your issues are in case there are similarities either in our usage approach or our systems. MAYBE we can discover something of use to ourselves, others, and CW. So any details you and audiyo can provide I think might be helpful in this regard. Thanks. 

Hey Billy

Here are my basic specs:

Hardware: Asus P6T Mobo, Intel Core I7 920@2.67ghz (stock speed), 6GB DDR3 Ram (Matching sticks - Corsair, tested), PNY Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 (768MB GDDR3), 500GB WD SATA HD (OS/System), 320GB WD SATA HD (Audio Projects), Belkin USB Wireless network adapter 

OS: Win 7 64 bit (SP1, all the latest critical updates)

Sonar version: X1 Producer x64 (X1C - No mods)

Things to note: 
- Roland Quad Capture is on a dedicated PCI USB 2.0 card (No other devices attached)
- Speedstep is disabled in the bios (So no throttling)
- Power management is disabled entirely
- DPC Latency checker (1.3.0) tested.. All in the green, Current latency avg = ~135
- Quad capture disabled for Windows sound
- USB network adapter unplugged when I load up Sonar
- Avast virus scanner disabled when I load up Sonar 
- No bit-bridging at all.. 100% 64 bit plugins
- Latest Nvidia reference drivers installed        


Major issue:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2359303 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2367266
Note: This is not just with DP.. I've had this happen with Z3ta 1.5, Pentagon 1, etc etc..

I have submitted a report for this issue.

For completeness, Here are some MINOR issues I have experienced:
 
- Disappearing control bar
- Browser/Plugin layout persist issues (not fixed in X1C and verified/reproduced via my bug report) 
- The newly introduced Bus/Track selection glitch
- 'p' key does not open preferences unless a project is open
- The view menu check mark for inspector is always checked regardless of whether the inspector is open
- Automation drawing bugs
- Pro channel knob response issues
- Dragging an audio file or clip into the matrix view will "sometimes" not place the clip on the cell you hover over, but on the one below it..
- Glitchy graphics with the VX64 plugin
- Graphic glitches when enabling and disabling mixer strip modules in console view

Please nobody give me flak over bringing these small issues up. I know most if not all of these issues will either have no real impact on making music, or are easy to work around. I am well aware of that and none of these things are the reason I am not going to be making music with Sonar (for now). These are mostly just things that distract and lower my confidence level.. 

Also, I do realize that some of these issues are potentially issues with my system and Sonar.. As Billy mentioned, it seems like Sonar can be picky with what hardware/software configuration you're running.. Maybe Sonar doesn't like my motherboard.. Maybe some of these issues are from drivers or shared libraries.. etc etc.. I don't know.

The bottom line is at this point, If I can find a solution for my major issue, I'll be happy to look the other way with all the minor issues I have come across. I want to use this software. I will do whatever I can to troubleshoot my system to get to that point. I will (and have) submitted bug reports. If anyone has any tips, I will gladly try them out.

Anyway, I hope I can get things sorted out. If anyone has any constructive advice, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Edit: I'm starting to think my video card "might" have something to do with it.. I wish I had another laying around to swap out..

ba_midi


Audyio,

I commiserate with ya, as a lot of those issues have affected me and others. 

Have you tried disabling your wireless nic?  That can be (though not always) a source of headache for DAWs.

They do a lot of "polling" which can affect dpc, etc.

If you've got the latest nVidia updates, you should be ok there IF they installed properly - and IF the card is good - and IF the memory in the card is good.    Lotta IFs in computers ;)

But definitely try running without the wireless enabled and see if that makes ANY difference?

Yeah, I always unplug my wireless adapter.. I learned my lesson with that with an older audio interface where the transfer rate of my wireless adapter would screw up the sample-rate of my interface.. It was actually kind of funny.. Every time I would be downloading at highers speeds I'd hear my sound go up in pitch and glitch out..

Anyway, I'll keep troubleshooting.. I'm going to head over to the Asus website and check out some of the bios updates.. Maybe there's something weird going on there.. I'm also gonna try to get a hold of a video card to swap out aswell... With all the graphic glitches I have had, that may very well be part of the problem. We'll see.

Thanks for the input. 

Edit: I forgot. I just updated my m-audio midi interface driver.. Maybe that will help.  

John T


The fact that screen sets aren't global are what's put me off putting time into learning how to use them. It sounds like a great idea, and I'll get around to it when I'm not busy.

I guess it depends how you work. Myself, I don't really do much in the way of per-project settings if I can help it; I like to have my Sonar environment fairly consistent and predictable, as I'm often working on a bunch of projects at once. The idea that something like this would vary from project to project sounds like a headache.

Obviously, you can template it, which is what I'll likely end up doing when I've got time to figure it out.

Hi John T - Once you've templated them they do stay consistent for new projects obviously and importing them is fairly straightforward for old ones. Just open a project with existing SS in and then click on the import SS option in the second project. A bit of a pain but it does only need to be done once per project.

I personally would like to see some sort of SS library/manager with the ability to save and load them individually as well.

I think the trouble with 'global' as in one change affects all, is the power of them. If you hide a bunch of tracks in one project do you really want those tracks hiding in every other project? Probably not and could even lead to a whole load of bug complaints as projects get tracks hidden, snap to values change, etc. I've already put a FR in for the library idea BTW.