So what is the considered verdic on X1 C?

So in my case I am liking it very much. Now I didn't have any real problems with X1B so I am not all that excited. None the less I think what CW has done is very good.

We did find a couple of things that need looking after from CW though. One good thing is the faster project load. It was not bad before but now its very fast. 

Please your view. 

Great..... as long as you don't use drum maps. See my posts elsewhere from today's nightmare session.

Mick Moreau


Well, I have been playing with X1 and have had not discernable problems yet and it seems to see everything that needs to be seen, plays solid and I'm happy with that part.  The multi-thread insp[iring color issue is my only complaint because of the color spectrum I see in... makes x1 a real pain/  I will not use mods as I'm afraid of messing up the program code and making things worse.  Id prefer to spend my time learning the softsynths, add ons etc.
 
Thats why I'm staying as long as I can in 8.5.   Both are solid, but 8.5 (to me) is still better because of that one issue stated above.
 
Me

I hear you on the vision issue. In the past CW was very proud of being able to support the various vision problems users may have. I don't know what made them change this rather useful idea. 

As for the mods they are benign. They don't do anything to harm X1. But they can be easily removed if needed.

Nice to hear from you and thank you. 

FastBikerBoy


Great..... as long as you don't use drum maps. See my posts elsewhere from today's nightmare session.

Oh oh I'm afraid to ask. 

I have enough trouble with drum maps. 

Not tried it yet...managed to DL on Monday night eventually ...but I had one of my kids stay over last night and a pond algae emergency to deal with so didn't get time to install and try it......maybe tonight?

Twigman


Not tried it yet...managed to DL on Monday night eventually ...but I had one of my kids stay over last night and a pond algae emergency to deal with so didn't get time to install and try it......maybe tonight?

I will keep my fingers crossed for you. Hope it all goes well. I will try to make an English cross. 

John

FastBikerBoy


Great..... as long as you don't use drum maps. See my posts elsewhere from today's nightmare session.

Oh oh I'm afraid to ask. 

I have enough trouble with drum maps. 

It's all good now, Seth has just replied to one of my threads and given me a great tip that may even make drum maps redundant, for me at least. It only took about 5 minutes for the tip to get through my thick skull as well.

John

ba_midi


I've been dead in the water with it.  Crash city.

However, I'm setting up one of my powerful laptops with windows7 fresh to see how it goes there.   I have no trouble with 3 other major DAWS/hosts on my main system, though.  Only X1.

So we'll see if I can get a stable go at it with a different system.

I am truly sorry to hear that Billy. If anyone deserves a trouble free X1 its you for all the good things you have done on the forums.  

THat's kind of you to say John.  Thanks.
 
I said elsewhere that I suspect there is SOME thing in my main system that doesn't like X1 even though other DAWs do just fine there.     But, frankly, I would love to be able to dig into X1 and see if it can have a home here like 8.5.3, Live, and Studio One Pro do.

I think the only way to find that out is to put it into a fresh environment on a different system and go from there.  So that's why I'm doing.

I just order the audio interface (M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB) for the laptop setup and we'll see how things fly.   Though I don't look forward to spending my time this way due to other demands on me, but it is something I do want to explore and resolve.

So as I say ... "to be continued"  LOL

Jury is still out. I had some odd things happen in a session last night, but until they re-occur I can't say for certain it was an X1 glitch or something else causing it. I am also working on a project from X1b, not a clean project from X1c.

1: Automation seemed to have a mind of it's own. I recorded some PAN and Volume changes on just two tracks. Later I noticed those tracks did not "sit right" in the mix and sure enough - automation was not doing anything (yes, the tracks were set to read automation). Closed project, then Sonar > reopened and everything worked fine.

2: For some reason X1 lost my VS-100 in the middle of mixing (first time that has ever happened). The tracks were playing but there was no sound. I closed Sonar and it had a nasty time re-opening. Once it opened, it warned me the VS-100 was gone (silent output message). Sure enough - it was not in the driver lists. After restarted the VS and Sonar all worked again.

Aside from those problems, everything ran fine.

codamedia


Jury is still out. I had some odd things happen in a session last night, but until they re-occur I can't say for certain it was an X1 glitch or something else causing it. I am also working on a project from X1b, not a clean project from X1c.

1: Automation seemed to have a mind of it's own. I recorded some PAN and Volume changes on just two tracks. Later I noticed those tracks did not "sit right" in the mix and sure enough - automation was not doing anything (yes, the tracks were set to read automation). Closed project, then Sonar > reopened and everything worked fine.

2: For some reason X1 lost my VS-100 in the middle of mixing (first time that has ever happened). The tracks were playing but there was no sound. I closed Sonar and it had a nasty time re-opening. Once it opened, it warned me the VS-100 was gone (silent output message). Sure enough - it was not in the driver lists. After restarted the VS and Sonar all worked again.

Aside from those problems, everything ran fine.

Same thing began happening with my sound card, going to begin doing some testing tonight and determine if it's sonar's issue or my cards issue.

The download was fast, and combined with the new drivers from RME, X1c has been as solid as a rock.  Thanks to Panup for quickly providing new skins for X1c.

Myself I have gone through many Woes with X1 from the start.. My computer was running windows Xp 3rd edition 32 bit. My Audio Device was the Tascam Fw 1884. Since then I have upgraded to Windows 7 64 bit. I also installed a 60 gig SSD just for programs . and I use A WD Raptor drive for all my content, I also purchased the new roland quad capture Usb audio device. 
NOw My experience is night and day from before, My only real issues at the moment is the 64 bit/ Bitbridge issues that are inherent with 64 bit . Although I have slimmed down on my plugins and efxs and I'm trying to only use native 64bit plugins , I have not had any obscure crashes ,pop clicks or any thing thats would categorize as a show stopper or annoyance .. X1C so far looks very promising for me on my system. So I am at very good place with Sonar X1 at the moment. Yeah took a few dollars , but all seems pretty good here..  My only recent issue was the Pro channel and automating of the on/off button where it would not deactivate when the automation called for it.. Since then I haven't used the PC but will give it whirl again soon. 
 The one thing I havn't notice was the quick load times as some are claiming ,My projects load pretty quick as it is before x1c maybe due because of the SSD , Although I havn't notice a difference in load times with x1c . I'm Just happy everything loads and works as intended . WAy to Cw 

It's interesting to see the variation of "it's working" and "not sure" and "some problems" .... I keep thinking there's something about X1 that is really picky with hardware configs -- which would explain why I'm having such a difficult time with it on my main system but not with other hosts at all. I can't wait to get my new audio device so I can test on a fresh install on Win7 / laptop. I suspect I'm going to see a much more stable result.

ba_midi


I've been dead in the water with it.  Crash city.

However, I'm setting up one of my powerful laptops with windows7 fresh to see how it goes there.   I have no trouble with 3 other major DAWS/hosts on my main system, though.  Only X1.

So we'll see if I can get a stable go at it with a different system.

Sorry to hear you have problems Billy. What is your OS and what version are you using? X32bit or X64bit version of SONAR?
I'm just curious..
 
 
 
Best Regards
Freddie

ba_midi


It's interesting to see the variation of "it's working" and "not sure" and "some problems" .... I keep thinking there's something about X1 that is really picky with hardware configs -- which would explain why I'm having such a difficult time with it on my main system but not with other hosts at all. I can't wait to get my new audio device so I can test on a fresh install on Win7 / laptop. I suspect I'm going to see a much more stable result.

Billy I think you will see a difference ..I most definitely have. I Hope you do ,, You definitely deserve it..