noldar12


daryl1968, I agree that there still are many friendly people in the CH, and it is quite possible that your describing it as fractious is a more accurate.  It really might be that that is what I find troubling.

There is enough of that in the "real" world.

Yes, on further thought, I think you have described the underlying situation well (the personal attack issue I think is still a real one).

Ignoring someone making a reasoned point is a personal attack too?
 
I can't remember when I pooped in your Corn-Flakes but it seems I have somewhere down the line.
 
Too bad.

I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.

You use a word that some people find offensive for whatever reason. So just don't use it. Who cares? 

There's lots of other perfectly good words. Many of them aren't offensive. Some of them may even be "colorful" without being particularly offensive.

This is the place you choose to stand up for your manhood or independence or whatever? 

Really? This is that big a deal?

Did anyone notice I didn't start this thread?




I just hope someone does before the lynch mob finishes with the rumureulogy.




Good times.

alexoosthoek

jamesg1213


If it comes down to a choice between reading something which may or may not offend a carefully, un-named someone who may or may not have stopped posting here because they may or may not have PM-d someone, and a boatload of transparently self-serving, passive aggressive, nauseous, holier-than-thou rhetoric...I'll go with the penis shaped sausages.

I blame you for having to clean my screen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Can't we have a decent mac vs. pc thread?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Always fun to read
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Sending a box of man-size tissues Alex, sorry. You can pick 'em up at Port Zeland. 

noldar12


Jonbouy, to answer your questions:

1) I am not an arbitrator, just expressing my opinion.

2) I would say that you are engaging with me and my comments, and justification is not based on whether you agree with them.

IMO, you certainly do have the right to express yourself as you are doing.  I also agree with you that botlling things up is generally not healthy (as I am one who can be guilty of doing just that).

Where we will likely have to agree to disagree is that when disputes arise, I think that honey works better than vinegar.  Using harsh words can incite the other person to respond with equal or greater harshness, and the conflict often ends up escalating instead of being resolved.

Thank you for at least not pretending, not to understand what I was talking about.
 

daryl1968, I was actually deliberately not referencing any one post in particular, as I would rather not make anything that "personal" as doing so would go against the very point that I am trying to make in this particular discussion.

Rather, I am thinking of an overall tendency that has crept into the CH from time to time over the last several months, starting with some of what Beagle has referenced earlier in the thread, and when some of that discussion ended up going in a more negative personal direction.

That series of events, IMO, did end up starting to change the culture in the CH, and that it has been, at times, a less friendly place since.

Although I may not always succeed, I try very hard to never attack a person: discussion - hopefully honest and constructive, or at least intended that way - with a person about a concern or issue IMO is certainly fair, but not an attack on a person, again IMO.

In the end, one certainly can agree to disagree on an issue, and hopefully remain friends.

mike_mccue


You can never seem to figure out when I'm not joking.

So why should I expect you to figure out when I am?


I'm not giving up hope.

yet.


bestish,
mike



ps :-)

I'm on to your tricks Mike.

So let it be known that I'm keeping a close eye on you and taking notes.

Mostly because I'm just really, really bored.

noldar12


daryl1968, I was actually deliberately not referencing any one post in particular, as I would rather not make anything that "personal" as doing so would go against the very point that I am trying to make in this particular discussion.

Rather, I am thinking of an overall tendency that has crept into the CH from time to time over the last several months, starting with some of what Beagle has referenced earlier in the thread, and when some of that discussion ended up going in a more negative personal direction.

That series of events, IMO, did end up starting to change the culture in the CH, and that it has been, at times, a less friendly place since.

Although I may not always succeed, I try very hard to never attack a person: discussion - hopefully honest and constructive, or at least intended that way - with a person about a concern or issue IMO is certainly fair, but not an attack on a person, again IMO.

In the end, one certainly can agree to disagree on an issue, and hopefully remain friends.

Fair enough Jim - to be fair, I have rarely ventured outside the 'stupid thread' in recent months so I have been sheltered from any nastiness. Let it be said that you would be welcomed with open arms if you ventured in there. No nastiness but lots of stupidity and monkeys.

"Always electing to be coming from a superior stand point than the community you claim to be a part of doesn't wash with me, I don't know about anyone else."


Well, that's the rub isn't it. I'm still working hard to be half the drummer you are and you can't seem to take a compliment.






[hands up in air]
sigh
[/hands up in air]


Last time I remember you being coherent I was asking your advice about mic-ing snare drums and you've had your teeth out and been snapping at my back ever since.

I was actually asking for your advice... and something seemed to incense you.

I remember you muttering "Nashville" as I was going for the block.





I guess it must be serious... what ever it is.



best regards,
mike

jamesg1213

alexoosthoek

jamesg1213


If it comes down to a choice between reading something which may or may not offend a carefully, un-named someone who may or may not have stopped posting here because they may or may not have PM-d someone, and a boatload of transparently self-serving, passive aggressive, nauseous, holier-than-thou rhetoric...I'll go with the penis shaped sausages.

I blame you for having to clean my screen




















Can't we have a decent mac vs. pc thread?


































Always fun to read

Sending a box of man-size tissues Alex, sorry. You can pick 'em up at Port Zeland. 

Thank you kindly James

daryl1968, I have visited the "stupid" thread from time to time, but have only rarely commented in it, as I'd rather not say anything in that thread unless I can add something humorous (which has happened on occasion).

Also, if a thread is going in a direction at any given time that I am not personally comfortable with, I will simply not post anything at that point in that thread.  I don't care to go along with some stuff, nor (since I am not an arbitrator <smile>) do I care to make a stink about it.

I responded to Bub in this thread, simply because I do believe that some have indeed left because of the issues raised.

As for the "stupid" thread itself, I think that type of thread has been an ideal solution to some of the issues that were raised: it keeps the option for the crazy banter, while at the same time removes the clutter some objected to in the CH.

On another level, it is possible that some of what is being discussed in this thread are simply differing views on the relationship between "my rights" vs. "concern for others".  If one focuses entirely on "my rights" the "other" is completely disregarded.  OTOH, if the concern is strictly for the "other" one then risks becoming a doormat.  Thus, it becomes more difficult to figure out what is reasonable, all the more so, when what one person thinks is acceptable another person thinks is way out of bounds.

I'm pretty sure even the "fairer members" of this forum (whoever that might be) would take greivous offense at being refered to as such.  And besides couldn't one be justly offended by a simple misreading of that phrase??  I know I was.  And I, myownself,  have one!!!

Beepster

mike_mccue


Did anyone notice I didn't start this thread?




I just hope someone does before the lynch mob finishes with the rumureulogy.




Good times.

IDK, man. I can't speak for anyone else but you've been rather abrasive on occasion to me personally and that one day when you decided to crawl right up my arse for god knows what it was highly offensive and uncalled for.

Ever consider the possibility the problem may be with your own behavior? I really don't give two farts at this point but it does seem like you do your best to goad people into negative reactions.

You trollin' or what?

The amount of PM's I get per week about McQ  behaving in a similar way is nobodies buisness.
 
They just never stop coming.

@McQ... If you had acknowledged my statements one way or another then I'd have a better gauge as to what the heck you were on about. Your complete silence was even more bizarre. It is hard to take any of your statements seriously after that.

You are a very odd duck Mr. McQ. Very odd indeed.

And you are welcome. I would have elaborated further on the theory but I am hesitant to interact with you.

@JB... The McQ ombudsman? That sounds like a crappy gig. :-/

For those trying to follow along at home, I found a diagram to help explain the relationships of CH participants:


You'll have to identify who's who yourself.