I'd like to get back on the subject of Sonar, can we do that please ?? After all this is a Sonar forum, right ??

 
yes it is.. but did you even try to read the title of the thread?? huh.. it says Sonar X1 vs Pro tools 10 part 1.  never once in all my days on this forum have i taken issue with what members choose to discuss hear on the forum. if you want to talk about Sonar, then go to where they are talking about Sonar. hell man.. start your own thread. i noticed other members hijacking, talking about beating dead horses, and motorcycles and all that crap. thats not even cool man.. and its disrepectful to the members who came here to discuss the subject at hand.. some of you have a whole lot of nerve man. you cant take issue with folks, cause they dont want to talk about what you want them to talk about..who do you think you are man.."mommy they wont stop talking about ProTools and i wanna talk about about Sonar" waa, waaa. Sonar and PT both lose.. KOd by our hijacking hissyfitters... im out. 

I used to record on an old cassette tape thangamadoodle like that too when I was like 15. Please come back, aleef. We must know!! This is now a cassette studio dealymadoodle vs. gorillas thread.

Is that a Porta 2? I used to have one. Aaah! The good ol' days when things were straight forward ... or reverse! Full speed, half speed or double speed! Dolby or dbx! Normal or Chrome!

 
its the Tascam PortaOne ... i remember being the only one in the area that had one. i was the man.. it ran on a stereo receiver and house speakers, and we would bounce down to a JVC dbl cassette boom box...TDK 60min Normal Bias all the way..best time i ever had making music..yes yes yaw, it dont stop.. 

carlosagm79

Mod Bod

Beepster


Yeah, the whole left/right thing wigged me out at first too as I'm used to just, 1 2 3 4 etc... but once you figure it out it's nothing. Also it supposedly the proper ASIO naming convention or something which was mentioned in another thread. So I'd rather learn something new and be able to understand and communicate properly than stamp my feet and say "BURT DAT'S NOT HOW IIIII DOEZ ITZ!!!1eleventy". Gotta roll with the industry or get left behind... just like PT will get left behind if they don't get their poop together. Who knows. Maybe they are sick of the consumer market and just want to focus on the commercial stuff. Frankly I think that would be better for everyone.

It's something when you are scrolling through inputs on a Mackie MCU or just looking at the Input Button on a track.  You can get some pretty wacked out displays.  I thought THAT was the purpose of the Friendly Names for inputs and outputs - to make things clearer and not to force the user to bend to the software's way of doing things.


Or maybe X1 is perfect and I'm out of sync with the user base?  Evidently I'm pissing in the wind.

The problem is that the mono/stereo concept can be tricky , and also the I/O configuration, if you use your first left input from your audio interface and recorded some audio, probably means that your interface have stereo inputs(if they were simply mono they can be labeled 1,2,3,4 even in Sonar), and now you're using the left channel input, notice that no matter what, you will probably send the mono audio to the stereo pairs output, or keep it hard panned to left, anyway is still mono no matter what, except if you do some stereo or widening fx...

I don't think it's tricky at all because it's only about the presentation of information.  In my case, I have 16 mono inputs from two Frontier Tangos. There are 12 inputs fed by a Soundcraft M12 mixer, one input each for an Avalon 737, UA-710, Studio Projects VTB1 and a Bass Pod Pro.  SONAR sees everything as ADAT A:1&2, ADAT A:3&4 or ADAT B:1&2 and so on.  The developers gave us the ability to give us friendly names for inputs and outputs.  I use this to name input 15 and 16 (ADAT B:7&8) as "UA-710" and "AV 737" which SONAR presents to me as "LEFT UA-710- B7: AV-737 B8"; "RIGHT UA-710- B7: AV-737 B8"; "STEREO UA-710-B7: AV-737 B8."  See how much more complicated this is when I simply want to select my UA-710 or Avalon 737 preamp?  Not everyone is using mic pre/AD converter packages. 


I didn't buy all this gear because I'm a dunce and can't get past this untidy lack of finishing the development of the Friendly Names feature.  I do it every time I change my mind on which mic pre is going to feed a particular track.  In fact, I've got 16 different templates that are labeled logically and as long as I am creating an new track, I get the labeling information I need in a clear, concise, organized manner.

Pro Tools does this and Reaper does this for the users who wish to have friendly I/O names.  I don't think that PT10 is worth the expense of having at this time (for this one feature) but it is one of the features that it has that I like so I mention it.

trimph1


And to think my fred on Studio One V2 was locked...and it was in the Software forum.... 

An interesting thing is that a sort of similar thread is in the AVID DUC forums (where folks who are upset with recent developments (or lack thereof) with Pro Tools and dropping consumer level products) has appeared and people are comparing other capable products that compete with PT for a position in professional circles.  I didn't see the SONAR product mentioned along with the others (Logic, Samplitude, Cubase, Nuendo, Studio One and lowly Reaper among the ones I recall).


That said, the gist was that most other platforms were leaving PT behind and that the trend was private home studios where you can pretty much use any software you like.

I cut an enormous number of tracks on a Portastudio with keyboards, guitar, and a Linn Drum. (Drum Drops tapes before the Linn). I wore it out and got another one. Then I got a Tascam 8-track 1/4 machine with an integrated mixer--like a giant Portastudio. How about a Pro Tools v Portastudio argument?
 
EDIT:  I did have a Linn Drum but first I had an LM-1 Linn Drum Computer!  I wish I had held onto that for my museum of old equipment.  It had a real Betty-Davis-Eyes-Devo-Eurythmics mojo.

I have a small collection of sound effects records here 

John

It's something when you are scrolling through inputs on a Mackie MCU or just looking at the Input Button on a track.  You can get some pretty wacked out displays.  I thought THAT was the purpose of the Friendly Names for inputs and outputs - to make things clearer and not to force the user to bend to the software's way of doing things. 




Or maybe X1 is perfect and I'm out of sync with the user base?  Evidently I'm pissing in the wind. 

Scrolling the inputs? I'm not sure what you are talking about here. I take it you are referring to the LCD channel strip on the MC.


I sure would like to know how you do that.

The input control is one of the parameters availvable to change via the V-Pots when in track mode.

What hamburger do you like after a session with SONAR?



1. Homemade barbecued?

2. Homemade fry on the Stove?

3. MC Donalds?

4. Burger King?

5. Other Hamburger Joint?

Freddie H


What hamburger do you like after a session with SONAR?  

Sorry, Freddie, after a session with SONAR I generally go straight to bed - don't want to barbecue anything at 2am :-)

I didn't realize McDonald's or Burger King actually made hamburgers.

I thought they manufactured poor quality doorstops.

stevec


I see nothing wrong with the quality of their doorstops.    Then again, I never try to eat them.  

This thread is being derailed by people talking about doorstops. Let's get back to burgers, please.

You can make burgers that taste like WhiteCastle burgers by cooking them in a layer of water instead of oil or butter. Apparently steaming the hamburger gives it a special taste.

I NEVER eat hamburgers from McDonald's or Burger King. They are total crap. They don't even qualify to be called a hamburger. I either make my own or go to a restaurant that makes real hamburgers (cooked on a grill, not a conveyor belt) using real beef (not whatever that is McD's and BK uses). McD's is the worst. Wendy's isn't any better. For just a few bucks more I know a couple of diners where I can get a great burger with real fries, not "chopped and formed" fries.  White Castle and Krystal are for people who think having 4 small crappy burgers (if you can call 1/10 of an ounce of beef a burger) with diced onions and 2 tiny pickle slices better than having one bigger crappy burger. And people wonder why Americans have such bad health.... Our standard of excellence continues to fall.... 

5 Guys is staffed with idiots. I went there once with my wife and they forgot to put the burgers on her hamburger. True. I wrote them to complain and they didn't even respond. Haven't been there since. 

While I'm at it, Subway makes the worst sandwiches. I have never had a sandwich from Subway that looks anything like the sandwich they show in their ads. Either make your own or go to a good deli owned and run by real people and not franchises serving garbage and run by big ripoff corporations.