sharke
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 01:25:35
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godparticle Mixcraft doesn't do **** for anyone, we gotta do everything from scratch, it has no beat-mixing tools or arrpegiators at all. As to your previous post. I would prefer that you just turn-up at the club and see what people do with their bodies when they are dancing to my tracks. THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP at 144bpm, so what do i wanna do this time, ping the bass down to 5 hz, nah, too low, i'll ping it up to 50 hz, ahhh much better; now slam that kick-drum with Dcam-Bus compressor, ahhh, now ere cooking; so what do i wanna do with that raging phat lead-synth, i need some ambience, oh, i have a Lexicon reverb in my kit, put that mother in there, talk to me, OK lets get some Ozone 5 all over that, yummy yummy, ok, now what's for the clap, big and chunky, nice work, and now the hi-hat, well yeah, TR909 on the floor for that one. This 42 year old kids having fun. Poppin pills with the girls coast-to-coast were pumpin. Come on sharke, give me a listen to your stuff then i might consider it. I'm not the one who's proclaiming that my stuff is amazing or that it's rocking the clubs. Therefore I have nothing to prove. You however, are making outlandish claims about your own music. You sound like some teenage douchebag on YouTube who trolls the videos of acclaimed EDM producers saying "this crap is BS! Total pants! I make music that is 100x as good as this!" and then when you go to their channel, it turns out their stuff is actually a load of crap. You have a big head. In my experience, 95% of people with big heads turn out to be suffering from major delusions. Therefore, in light of your grandiose self-promotion, I think it would help matters at this point if we could ascertain whether you're part of the deluded 95%, or the 5% who actually have something to justify their claims. So how about it? We're still waiting. I promise that I will be honest in my appraisal of your music. No hard feelings. If it's good, I will say so. Deal?
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sharke
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 01:40:28
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 01:43:47
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@sharke, I'm not letting him slide on the EDM defense. If you look at the peop[le actually making money producing EDM and you will find a load of Cubase, Logic, Ableton with occasional FL Studio user. It's certainly not dominated by Mixcraft. Not like that should matter. Anyway, you are going bvack and forth with a guy claiming to be a 42 year old bragging about "popping pills with girls coast-to-coast". It's like running a race agaisnt a quadraplegic. Even if you win, do you really want to be the guy who raced a qudraplegic. I repeat, he is bragging he is a 42 year old who spends his time popping pills with girls. Think about that.
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sharke
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 01:47:36
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dubdisciple @sharke, I'm not letting him slide on the EDM defense. If you look at the peop[le actually making money producing EDM and you will find a load of Cubase, Logic, Ableton with occasional FL Studio user. It's certainly not dominated by Mixcraft. Not like that should matter. Anyway, you are going bvack and forth with a guy claiming to be a 42 year old bragging about "popping pills with girls coast-to-coast". It's like running a race agaisnt a quadraplegic. Even if you win, do you really want to be the guy who raced a qudraplegic. I repeat, he is bragging he is a 42 year old who spends his time popping pills with girls. Think about that. It's a pretty sad state of affairs if he really is 42. I was "popping pills with girls" at raves back in 1991, and I'm only 39. I think it was pretty much out of my system by about 1999. You grow up, become more sophisticated, and find pleasure in other things. Maybe he was a shut-in through his 20's and 30's and has just come out of his shell now.
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 01:53:34
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that's exactly what makes it sad. In the 90's I hung out and dj'd at clubs and raves in your area. There was always a few old people around (and yes, anyone over 30 still hanging around raves seems "old" to these kids) and they looked so pathetic. I promised I would never be "that guy" and stopped when it was time to grow up. Unless you are one of the megaproducers who is getting rich off of this stuff, it is pretty pathetic to be doing that , but more power to him.
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sharke
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 02:02:13
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dubdisciple that's exactly what makes it sad. In the 90's I hung out and dj'd at clubs and raves in your area. There was always a few old people around (and yes, anyone over 30 still hanging around raves seems "old" to these kids) and they looked so pathetic. I promised I would never be "that guy" and stopped when it was time to grow up. Unless you are one of the megaproducers who is getting rich off of this stuff, it is pretty pathetic to be doing that , but more power to him. Ha! I hear ya. I remember going to after-rave house parties and there would always be one guy there in his 40's with a skeletal face dancing bug eyed in the middle of the room, who looked about 60 to us 21 year olds, and everyone would be going "So does anyone know that guy? Who the hell invited him back? Did he just follow us?" I vowed I would never be that guy when I got older. And I've pretty much stuck to that vow! I don't think I would even enjoy hanging out with 20 year olds any more. Whenever I see someone hanging out with people who are 20 years younger than them, I can't help feeling that they must have an inferiority complex around people their own age.
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 02:17:38
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Oh mon Dieu, on s'en fout de Mixcraft !
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 02:17:54
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 02:38:19
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Honestly, sharke, are you for real? Where did i claim my music was amazing?? I am pumping the clubs, simple as that, i don't need you to believe me. But i suspect that you really just wanna see what Mixcraft is really capable of. You wanna listen, then put-up your music first monkey man, you're the one with the big ideas. Anyway, comparing me to that guy in your link? Whoa, i'll eat him for breakfast. Is that seriously your standard? I think that maybe you just have a penchant and liking for him according to your own tastes, but really, he's no challenge for me, honestly! He sounds more like a creative underground type bloke who just wants to be a hero in his own circles. I rock my country from coast to coast man, there's no comparison, and besides, you wouldn't even like my genre of music anyway, i make hardhouse, dof dof music as they call it, most people despise it, mostly because bad producers are getting into the gig and giving my genre of music a bad name; as i have always said, there are good and bad examples of any genre of music, period, and when my genre, HardHouse, is done right, WATCH-OUT! There's nothing better. FYI i enjoy and appreciate any good example of any genre of music, even opera or Country-and-Western, but they must be good examples of those genres or i'll pull my hair out. i'm gonna be challenging Gangnam style soon, so you can keep a look-out for that, it will be called "Synth Medley Part II" so then you can have a gork and listen to that. I'm in the process of shooting the video at the moment and that will take me at least another month. It's time for another billion-views on YouTube and it's gonna be me, simple. And to be honest, going by your moniker photo, you actually looked pretty drug-fu_ked, obviously you hand one too many big binges when you were a teenage and 20's twat. I still look like a teenager even at 42...hehehe, the benefits of being a Naturopath.
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Splat
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 02:48:06
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Where did i claim my music was amazing?? > My tracks sound as complex as anything done by Usher or Beyonce I've emailed the producers of these artists so that they can see the light... They will be setting fire to their studios any day now (what's the point in continuing?) Hallelujah praise the lord///
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 02:56:15
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OMFG this fred is still going? Has a decision been made as to whether X2a actually works or not?
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Splat
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 02:59:09
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I've given up, thrown away all my hardware - Windows Sound recorder rules!
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2013/02/06 03:00:36
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Brilliant Mr. CakeAlexS!!!
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godparticle
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 03:06:45
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i'm going back to my four-track and korg triton, i've had enough, i can't take it. O hang-on, i'm using Mixcraft not Sonar, jubilee hehehe.
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 03:40:37
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Everyone hit the Report Abuse button on post 189 and we can get our forum back. The word T*at doesn't bother me overly but this clown is is doing my head in now. It's a user forum for support, trouble shooting, feature requests and yes ranting about frustrations but not out right insulting an otherwise friendly and approachable user base. The guy has been politely asked for examples to show us what both Mixcraft and his production skills are all about and returns with childish responses and insults. Punish him Cakewalk
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 03:42:45
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chuckebaby you see every daw has problems somewhere If I was a Martian tasked with finding out how music was made on earth solely by what I saw in forums, I would conclude that all music was made with tape recorders because no software ever works
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 04:19:48
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Surely he's on a windup? If so fair play to him - he's dragged loads of us in, hook, line, sinker & copy of Angling Times. Now, please do us all a favour and bugger off.
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 04:32:33
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godparticle Mixcraft doesn't do **** for anyone, we gotta do everything from scratch, it has no beat-mixing tools or arrpegiators at all. As to your previous post. I would prefer that you just turn-up at the club and see what people do with their bodies when they are dancing to my tracks. THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP at 144bpm, so what do i wanna do this time, ping the bass down to 5 hz, nah, too low, i'll ping it up to 50 hz, ahhh much better; now slam that kick-drum with Dcam-Bus compressor, ahhh, now ere cooking; so what do i wanna do with that raging phat lead-synth, i need some ambience, oh, i have a Lexicon reverb in my kit, put that mother in there, talk to me, OK lets get some Ozone 5 all over that, yummy yummy, ok, now what's for the clap, big and chunky, nice work, and now the hi-hat, well yeah, TR909 on the floor for that one. This 42 year old teenager is having fun. Poppin pills with the girls coast-to-coast were pumpin. Come on sharke, give me a listen to your stuff then i might consider it. Bless your heart, you're forty two and you still talk like that? Care in the community has a lot to answer for..
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 04:36:07
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Bristol_Jonesey Surely he's on a windup? If so fair play to him - he's dragged loads of us in, hook, line, sinker & copy of Angling Times. Now, please do us all a favour and bugger off. I've purposely stayed out. Can't help thinking I might have missed out on some post count opportunity though.
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markyzno
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 04:48:13
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X2a works perfectly here! :P
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 04:52:32
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markyzno X2a works perfectly here! :P So was mine until last night - when WINDOWS decided it was going to completely splat my system Not a happy bunny
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 05:24:25
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godparticle Your unbelievable chuckybaby, more beguiling misnomers. You failed to state with your first link that the guy said normally he gets no such problems with latency on any other effect; might that mean that the SIR effect he was trying to use was at fault? I'd say so. Mixcraft has PDC, what part of that don't you understand?? That second link of yours, man oh man, try running Sonar on an i3 and then tell us what happens, you'd be better-off burning yourself at the stake than trying to put-up with running Sonar on an i3 with 4 gig of ram. That third link of yours, well hey, 0.001 percent of users had a fatal error message, what are you trying to say? Sonar has 33% of users reporting such a friggin thing. That fourth link of yours, well that guy is using Mixcraft 5 for god's sake. Unbelievable man, chuckebaby comes in here with four links trying to diss the credibility of Mixcraft, and three of those links had no substance, and the other one sounds to me like he needs a registry cleaner. If those non-issue examples are the best you can come-up with, well hey, that is one hell of an endorsement for the stability of Mixcraft. Nothing to see here folks, move on, just a kaos agent spreading false propaganda. Now would you like me to post all the links from sonar users having issues in the last 3 months? No, thought not, on your bike. And FYI, i have already been told by the Mixcraft developers that Mixcraft 7 will have brand new graphics similar to Studio-One and Logic-Studio. Not that the graphics have anything to do with the sound. And how is Sonar gonna give me better sound chuckebaby? How? The integer maths for mixdown and recording in DAW's is all 'identical' across the board, and is the same for ANY DAW, just like the rubber on car tires, it's all identical. Anyone claiming otherwise hasn't got a clue. Thanks to the low cost of Mixcraft i was able to spend money getting high-end plugins like Lexicon reverbs and Izotope Mastering tools among others, so how the hell is Sonar gonna give me better sound?? Delusions of grandeur chuckebaby, or just self-deluded? Next please. wow,im not sure what to say,i guess nothing. i was offering you my help man.
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 06:00:29
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of course mixcraft is better...its got more free loops! :D
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 06:21:54
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I think I'm getting the picture...the OP is 42...has just now in the year 2013 joined the rest of us who have enjoyed computer digital recording for years...and is suddenly an expert on Sonar, a program which he doesn't even own and use. If you check he, she or it's post history, they've quickly gone from "what up guys; well just before i take the jump and buy Sonar X2 in preference to Studio One 2 and Cubase 7, can you please tell me how hard the learning curve is" on January 11th, to starting this thread less than a month later with " i thought Sonar X2a was mean't to fix the problems, but in actuality it has created more, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PATCH Cakewalk releases..." It's quite a leap from "Hey, I'm thinking about buying Sonar. Can you give me some advice?" to "You all suck if you don't like what I like!" This thread is certainly not based on any depth of experience with Sonar, so I can't really take it seriously. Bye!
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2013/02/06 06:45:09
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2013/02/06 06:45:37
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Who we are to offer help to God ? God knows (the one we are discussing with everything) better. So, shut up and become silent!!!!!!!! best regards Pragi
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 07:20:45
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I had a discussion yesterday with two friends that have just started using X2 alongside their main DAWs LogicPro, Cubase & Studio One. They both have many years industry experience, and one of them teaches at university level. They cited Sonar's fast workflow, the Pro Channel and the quality of the audio engine as reasons they were impressed and intend to dig deeper with Sonar. Sonar is simply a tool, every tool has a purpose. Use the tools that help complete the task. If a tool is of no use, swap it out for one that is. Bloody simple really! I don't get on with left-handed screwdrivers, I'm right-handed you see ;)
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 07:44:24
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I cannot believe some of the things that get said in this thread, please tell me what your taking man, i want some. chilldanny reckons two people told him their opinion about Sonar. oh, ok, so now two people out of 100,000+ music DAW users is who we should be listening to, is that correct? Sheesh, what planet are you on man? These guys you mention are using 4 different DAW's, that tells me they can't make up their friggin mind what to use and that they are not happy with any of them. Yeah right, great endorsement for Sonar, utterly convincing. Well for starters, there's no way the workflow in Sonar is faster than Mixcraft, fruityloops or Studio One. Secondly, all audio engines in DAW's are identical, and only the VST's effect the end result. Thirdly, the 'multi-aspect' 'variable harmonic saturation' modules in Izotope's Alloy II, allow me to achieve exactly the same result as the pro-channel. Can't you come-up with something more convincing in favour of Sonar, forget it, it's full of bugs, and always has been.
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2013/02/06 07:56:12
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h'haha, i like you godparticle, you're funny :D
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Re:Sonar X2 is highly questionable to say the least!
2013/02/06 08:09:30
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FastBikerBoy Bristol_Jonesey Surely he's on a windup? If so fair play to him - he's dragged loads of us in, hook, line, sinker & copy of Angling Times. Now, please do us all a favour and bugger off. I've purposely stayed out. Can't help thinking I might have missed out on some post count opportunity though. I'm like you FBB, until my eldest son a Physicist told me that; The "God Particle" is the name physicist and author Leon Lederman gave to the Higgs boson in his book The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question Lederman said that he settled for "the God Particle" because his intended title, "the Goddamn Particle," was rejected by the publisher. I think he should have kept the original, it suites our friend better!! Oh dear, I've been drawn in now.
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