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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/11 15:52:54
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The ability to nest track folders.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/11 17:32:00
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1. A Pitch shifter that can change the pitch of 2-Track mix without changing the speed in real time would be great, where you can just change the pitch of the mix and it plays back at the same speed.
2. Also a better stereo widener that has an actual dry mono center Bass control or dry stereo signal balance in addition to the one already on board that thins out the sound if Stereo widening is applied.
3. An up front "Import Audio" button on the Track near the Mute/Solo buttons area for the "Import Audio" option, considering it's one of the most frequently used options.
4. "Delete Audio" option in the Track drop down box, currently only a user is allowed to Delete the whole track, which deletes the whole track when only the audio is needed to be deleted.
5. Up front INSERT EFFECT button option next to the "Region FX" drop down box area, sorta above the Tracks, the most used basic everyday functions shouldn't be buried under right click menus. Instead of right clicking to find "Insert Effect" option to apply an effect, the user should be able to just select Insert Effect on a top menu button like some of the other functions, that's less used but made more easily accessible and more convenient to find for selection, it gets confusing sometimes looking to add an insert effect to a track and then having to right click while a track is playing and wondering if Insert Effect or Process Effect is the one needed for selection.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/12 10:42:30
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Responding to item 1 above, I believe Melodyne supports doing pitch alteration - I used to to it in V-Vocal, BUT with V-Vocal you had to do it in little chunks at a time or it left artifacts or sometime just failed. I have not done it with Melodyne , but believe it can do the same function. The version that comes with Sonar X3 Producer Edition seems to only work on a single track at a time, so you would have to make multiple passes through the song to pitch-shift multiple tracks. You could download the 30-day Melodyne upgrade version, which operates on multiple tracks, to check it out. Responding to item 3 above, you can quickly do this by selecting the audio track you with to place the imported audio into, then use the menu shortcut key combo: 'ALT+F, then M, then A', without the '. Once you do this really just a handful of times, it is quickly second-nature, if you do it fairly frequently. I don't know if you could assign all of that to a hot key, as I have not done any of that, but that might also be something you could look into. Keep in mind that functions that are things you do a hundred times a day, may not be used at all by the next guy. We all have our own recording styles and practices. Responding to your item 4 above, the following snippet is from the Sonar documentation: " [Track view] Tracks > Wipe Track(s) The Tracks > Wipe Track(s) command deletes track contents but leaves track properties intact. SONAR does not put wiped information on the Clipboard for later copying. For more information about the Wipe Track(s) command, see Erasing tracks." This wipes out only the track data, but leaves the track and its setup. Responding to item 5 above, Process Effect is quite different from inserting an effect. Process Effect has 2 options. The following text is from the Sonar documentation for Processing an Audio Effect: " Apply Audio Effects dialog This dialog box gives you several options when applying audio effects: Delete the effects from the track effects bin. This option lets you either keep your effects patched in the selected track(s) after the effects have been applied, or delete the effect from the track(s). Fast bounce. This option is normally enabled but should be disabled if the track you are bouncing contains the External Insert plug-in (see External Insert plug-in). If you bounce audio that uses the External Insert plug-in, the bounce operation must be performed in real-time. Audible bounce. The Audible bounce option is only available when in real-time bounce mode (when Fast bounce is unchecked). When Audible bounce is unchecked, no audio output will be heard during the bounce process. When in real-time bounce mode (Fast bounce unchecked) and Audible bounce is enabled, you can hear the output of the mixdown." I hope any of the above is helpful to you - best of luck with all of it. Bob Bone
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/12 10:52:23
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3. An up front "Import Audio" button on the Track near the Mute/Solo buttons area for the "Import Audio" option, considering it's one of the most frequently used options....
I like that! Walt
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/13 00:05:02
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nested track folders, rex playback in the browser crashing fixed, write automation on clip fx bin effects.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/13 09:43:11
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Has anyone mentioned on the fly track and bus template changes? So in other words, you can apply any template to any existing track or bus with just a click.
Also, currently the project template is great to avoid setting up multi-track drums over and over. However, I would like to insert a drum template into an exisiting project. I usually use EZ Drummer 2 in a stereo track when I am laying the ground work for a tune. Once I have the kit and patterns in place I insert a multi-track Superior Dummer 2 for the final mixes. I may have to tweak the new drums but at least I would have a most of what I want in place.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/13 10:47:49
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jmasno5
Has anyone mentioned on the fly track and bus template changes? So in other words, you can apply any template to any existing track or bus with just a click.
Also, currently the project template is great to avoid setting up multi-track drums over and over. However, I would like to insert a drum template into an exisiting project. I usually use EZ Drummer 2 in a stereo track when I am laying the ground work for a tune. Once I have the kit and patterns in place I insert a multi-track Superior Dummer 2 for the final mixes. I may have to tweak the new drums but at least I would have a most of what I want in place.
Set up a drum synth and all the channel outs and all the audio tracks, then save them as a track template, rather than a project template. This then allows you to insert all of that into an existing project. I do this all the time, and it saves me countless hours over time. Anytime I work with or construct a new kit in Battery 3, I route each cell to its own outputs in Battery 3, and save it as a custom kit. Then, I do all of the track routing and such in Sonar, and then save the whole thing off as a track template. Over time, I have ended up with a bunch of these. Love em, Bob Bone
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/15 16:46:04
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I'd like to be able to be able to solo stereo busses while using an external insert on the master bus.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/18 10:51:27
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jmasno5
Has anyone mentioned on the fly track and bus template changes? So in other words, you can apply any template to any existing track or bus with just a click.
Also, currently the project template is great to avoid setting up multi-track drums over and over. However, I would like to insert a drum template into an exisiting project. I usually use EZ Drummer 2 in a stereo track when I am laying the ground work for a tune. Once I have the kit and patterns in place I insert a multi-track Superior Dummer 2 for the final mixes. I may have to tweak the new drums but at least I would have a most of what I want in place.
Set up a drum synth and all the channel outs and all the audio tracks, then save them as a track template, rather than a project template. This then allows you to insert all of that into an existing project. I do this all the time, and it saves me countless hours over time.
Anytime I work with or construct a new kit in Battery 3, I route each cell to its own outputs in Battery 3, and save it as a custom kit. Then, I do all of the track routing and such in Sonar, and then save the whole thing off as a track template. Over time, I have ended up with a bunch of these.
Love em,
Bob Bone
I can save multiple tracks as a track template or do I have to save them indiviually? Thanks.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/18 11:22:38
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A track template can contain many tracks and buses. When creating a track template containing buses, it must also have at least one track.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/08/18 12:20:24
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You can select whatever tracks you wish, and then export those tracks, and the things connected to those tracks (fx plugins and settings, synth rack plugins and settings, buses) will be saved in the track template.
So, you can create multiple track templates from a single project, if you wish, by selecting one group of tracks and exporting as a track template, then selecting a different group (could be one) of tracks and exporting that group as a different track template, etc.
This is an INCREDIBLY cool feature of Sonar, as you get to reuse what could be quite complicated setups, that could include track folders and all the tracks within those folders, as well as all the settings and if present any contents, along with associated buses and any associated synths and effects.
Then you can insert one or more track templates into a different project, and all of that saved stuff gets loaded into that project, all ready to go. I do this all the time with Battery 3 custom drum kits that have separate outputs for each cell, and separate audio tracks for each of those cell outputs, along with a midi track for recording drum data. All of that gets loaded with just a few mouse clicks to load the track template.
Hope that better explains it.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/07 21:18:00
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jmasno5
Has anyone mentioned on the fly track and bus template changes? So in other words, you can apply any template to any existing track or bus with just a click.
Also, currently the project template is great to avoid setting up multi-track drums over and over. However, I would like to insert a drum template into an exisiting project. I usually use EZ Drummer 2 in a stereo track when I am laying the ground work for a tune. Once I have the kit and patterns in place I insert a multi-track Superior Dummer 2 for the final mixes. I may have to tweak the new drums but at least I would have a most of what I want in place.
Set up a drum synth and all the channel outs and all the audio tracks, then save them as a track template, rather than a project template. This then allows you to insert all of that into an existing project. I do this all the time, and it saves me countless hours over time.
Anytime I work with or construct a new kit in Battery 3, I route each cell to its own outputs in Battery 3, and save it as a custom kit. Then, I do all of the track routing and such in Sonar, and then save the whole thing off as a track template. Over time, I have ended up with a bunch of these.
Love em,
Bob Bone
Really great tip. Thanks!
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/07 22:23:21
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1) FX slots in the console view ala PT , clean and more visable
2) more composing midi tools like a better arpegiator and chords generator and some ...
3) Real pro metering suite and monitoring option
4) FX and instruments docking alowing to see several at the same time (not pages by pages) like in ableton but seeing the GUI's !!
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/27 23:05:05
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just had a thought what if sonar x4 or next version is waiting and windows 9 or next version ?
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/27 23:54:51
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Win 9 is apparently due end of month...
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/28 02:51:47
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☄ Helpfulby lawp 2014/09/28 09:35:32
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Win 9 is apparently due end of month... Only the preview or beta. The actual OS won't be out till sometime 2015, most likely Q3 2015 after a run of release candidates Q1/Q2. They will likely be showing it for the first time on 30 September.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/28 16:23:35
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I heard different, they want to get Win 8 rebranded quickly... We shall see... Cheers..
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/28 18:17:38
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"Varispeed" as implemented in REAPER (ie on-the-fly with the ability to preserve pitch). The *only* thing I miss switching over to SONAR.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/29 15:21:13
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Just Two Things I Can Think Of:
1) Make it so you can move where any kind of video file starts within the timeline (used to be able to on older versions of Sonar!)
2) a quick button that quantizes a selection without going into the dialog boxes.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/29 15:44:16
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Win 9 is apparently due end of month...
Only the preview or beta. The actual OS won't be out till sometime 2015, most likely Q3 2015 after a run of release candidates Q1/Q2. They will likely be showing it for the first time on 30 September.
Not at liberty to say how I know, but I would be shocked if win 9 was released this year.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/29 20:51:40
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Hi Guys ...three or four 'wishes' for the list.
1- To really help manage large track counts in the console more efficiently, I'd like to just see those that are 'open' in the expanded Track Folders at the time. So If I have, say, The Drums folder open with 12 tracks, that's reflected in the Console, with the folders for Gtrs, Bass, Vox, Keys, etc, all collapsed. In an opposite way, I could expand/contract 'By Folder' in the Console too.
2 - It would be great if any plug-in interface could 'fill the screen', or at least be double the size, by the click of a button, toggle type, particularly on a second Monitor :)
3 - I like the Chord Analyzer as it helps my lacking music tech. skills, but the detail is really small. It would be great to have the Chords show in a Control Bar Module, like the 'blue' section of the Transport Module, that syncs with the 'Active' midi track, visible all the time.
4- Minor one, re Plug-In Manager. It would be really helpful that after re-scanning for newly installed plug-ins, that they show up with a little 'new' beside them or were in a different colour ...or just a filter to show 'new'.
Anything on the above would be gratefully received!
Cheers, Steve
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 06:10:27
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I'd like it to not crash almost every time I clone a track, that would be cool.
And I probably aint the first to mention this but, a decent sampler please? It seems to be the only thing lacking in PE and before it is said SFZ, Dimension Pro... Making your patches in a text editor does not qualify as a decent sampler to me in 2014.
Other that those two things (and the cloning tracks thing isnt a massive issue since I rarely do it anyway) I am quite happy with x3e pe as it is
RE: Windows 8/8.1, I dont understand why people moved from windows 7? Touch maybe? I dont miss not having touch personally and I cannot stand windows 8, they just took windows 7 and horriblified (yes thats a word now lol) it.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 09:32:13
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If it's crashing when you clone try removing the plugin, or try another plugin.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 09:41:58
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Greeny
And I probably aint the first to mention this but, a decent sampler please?
If you need a sampler and don't want to pay for Kontakt try TX16Wx. No text editor required.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 10:08:47
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Alex, that kinda defeats the point of cloning! Now I just make a new track and copy stuff over, its easier and relatively risk free.
Scook, I have kontakt already, I just think a decent sampler is what is preventing PE from being a complete package - I cant think of much else I would need that it doesn't already have.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 10:13:15
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> Alex, that kinda defeats the point of cloning!
The point is the crash is often down to the plugin itself not Sonar.
Cheers... :)
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 11:09:40
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Sticky notes that stick to points in individual clips or envelopes or tracks.
Like "Fix X here!"
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 13:09:58
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Alex, it does it with cakewalks plugs too :) It really isn't a huge deal :)
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 15:38:10
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CakeAlexS
I heard different, they want to get Win 8 rebranded quickly... We shall see... Cheers..
Was just confirmed today. They are expecting a late '15 release. The preview will be available tomorrow. They are calling it Windows 10... Weird.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist
2014/09/30 16:00:34
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CakeAlexS
I heard different, they want to get Win 8 rebranded quickly... We shall see... Cheers..
Was just confirmed today. They are expecting a late '15 release. The preview will be available tomorrow. They are calling it Windows 10... Weird.
yea with that news I doubt cakewalk is worrying about sonar x4 being windows 10 compatible, but good news its more of a merger than a new code base so win 8 apps and programs will work in 10
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