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2013/11/07 14:29:12 (permalink)
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Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist

1. Drum editor midi editing view design for drums only.
2. Access to the input channel giving users the ability to process incoming audio rather just auditioning effects with input echo
3. sonitus fx vst3 update
4. more standard prochannel modules namely the pc4k expander gate, pc4k channel compressor and the concrete limiter 
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 14:46:26 (permalink)
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#4 is prob not going to happen. We told people who bought it that we wouldn't turn around and include it. They are actually priced pretty well considering how good the DSP is...specially the Concrete Limiter and CA-2A Leveling Amplifier.
 
 
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 14:48:04 (permalink)
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#4 is prob not going to happen. We told people who bought it that we wouldn't turn around and include it. They are actually priced pretty well considering how good the DSP is...specially the Concrete Limiter and CA-2A Leveling Amplifier.
 

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 15:23:42 (permalink)
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I've kind of given up on having it, but I'd like to throw out that it would be fantastic to offer more tuplets (other than triplet based) inside the notation editor. It would really make syncing up polyrhythmic passages a lot easier, even if it was just quintuplets, septuplets, and nontuplets (5,7,9). Right now I have to either do some crazy meter/tempo shifts or bust out the calculator and calculate the durations manually and not rely on it visually.
 
That's really the only Sonar feature I would like to see - I've been looking for it since CWPA 9. All this other stuff is just icing on the "cake" for me.

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 15:52:21 (permalink)
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3 is doubtful too because they are Direct X plugins. But what would be the reason for the change? 

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 15:57:28 (permalink)
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Clip gain via Pro Tools Style (Visual editing) would be NICE  ; )

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 16:06:05 (permalink)
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Playlist Fixed
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 16:10:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2014/10/01 02:40:59
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Please, please, please sort out the console view and make things in the fx bin and track names etc readable when using narrow strips (like how it used to be).
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 16:16:56 (permalink)
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Playlist Fixed


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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 17:39:34 (permalink)
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0. All Midi СС# in Midi Clip Automation! Not only Velocity. It will be great!
If you do it you can forget my wish №7
 
1. Long midi-note playing...

 
2. Quick Quantize (without pop-up) and necessarily HOT Key for this!
3. Zoom in Loop and necessarily HOT Key for this!
4. Bypass for VST2
5. Special new button for open VSTi from console:

 
6. NEW Macros language or NEW Macros interface with toolbar like in Studio One 2.6 or better like in Cubase 5!
If you will be do it... pleace do it for PRV and Track View (Like in S1).

 
7. Change edit midi СС# in PRV.
Now in Sonar X3 I need more time for draw this. In other DAW (Studio One) i can do it for 2 sec.

 
8. Try to do like this in Sonar... Make it in Sonar 4, Pleace.
This is PRV СС# edit Modulation... I can draw more... 2 sec to do it.

 
9. This:

 
after I have this automatically:
 

 
10. Track Manager in dock with more functionality -  see Reaper, Studio One, Cubase 7.
 
11. Why Sonar X3 Browser convert my audio files and then play? Sonar Save it in my Project Audio folder. Sonar X must try to use other DAW for understand what I'm talking about. Other DAW play it immediately, Sonar is think and then play.
 
12. All digital options can edit with ctrl+mouse scroll

 
13. Video Synchronization... oh... nevermind... I hope developer can do it in Sonar X4 or Sonar X5 or Sonar X6...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 17:41:27 (permalink)
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Clip gain via Pro Tools Style (Visual editing) would be NICE  ; )


Yes... but we must have choice: new clip gain info | old Clip Gain info.
 
Sometime I don`t need it... 
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 17:55:12 (permalink)
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14. Copy Track (Channel) settings and Paste it to the other Track (Channel)
15. In PRV all note have name: C-D-M-F-G-A-H (if I need it I on it in the menu).
post edited by Microtonic - 2013/11/07 18:13:43
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 19:17:33 (permalink)
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Have you put in official features request.

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 19:22:57 (permalink)
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Bakers, please give priority to requests submitted via the official feature request channel. Or abandon that and start an open feature request forum like the one in PreSonus forums.

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 19:29:51 (permalink)
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...Or abandon that and start an open feature request forum like the one in PreSonus forums.



Agreed.  Feature requests should be public, not private, and open to discussion.

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 19:30:21 (permalink)
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I would like a "feature request" button built into the control bar.  

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 19:37:25 (permalink)
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Zoom / scroll / fly out fx-bin to replace the current tiny fx-bin area, across all versions.

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 20:15:29 (permalink)
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John
3 is doubtful too because they are Direct X plugins. But what would be the reason for the change? 


The Sonar included version of the Sonitus Suite is DX but in the Cakewalk shop the separate for retail sale suite is listed as VST and DX compatible. Would make it useful in any daws that don't support DX.

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 22:09:02 (permalink)
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Here's my big list (I tried to prioritize based on order of importance). This would make Sonar the "perfect DAW" for me IMO. I don't expect this all for X4. Heck, if we got 75% of this stuff by Sonar X6 I'd be besides myself with joy.
 

Bug Fixes

  1. "Disk May Be Full" Error On Record
  2. Easily Corrupted Projects
  3. Duplicate Notes On Quantization
  4. Sonar Icon Remaining In System Tray After a Shut Down (or SONARPDR.exe in Task Manager)
  5. Disappearing Sonar (i.e. you're working in Sonar and "poof" you're on your desktop)
  6. Autosave "Cannot Find or Save File" Error (happens when there's already an autosave version of that file)

GUI/Workflow Enhancements/Feature Requests

  1. Smaller GUI: A Scalable, Vector-Based Console View, or Different Console View Size Options 
  2. Smaller GUI: Thinner Console View Strips
  3. GUI - Console View: Larger Effect Bins, Smaller Fonts
  4. GUI - Console View: More Visible Sends
  5. GUI - Toolbar: Smaller toolbar
  6. GUI - Consider a "Non-Touch" option of the GUI if the larger items are there for touch screens
  7. Enhanced Signal Routing: Allow recording VSTi's to Audio
  8. Enhanced Signal Routing: Routing Audio Tracks to Other Audio Tracks (i.e. "tracks as busses" instead of separate busses)
  9. Improved Signal Routing - Faster Buss Routing (I should be able to shift+select in the Console view to group tracks, right click and have two options: 1) Route tracks to a new buss, 2) Route track to an existing track/buss (with a sub-menu showing the existing tracks/busses)
  10. Improved Output Assignment On Multi-Output VSTi's. All multi-out VSTi's should have a "Channel" button in the plugin menu that would show all available outputs with checkboxes next to each, clicking the box would create tracks for those outputs in the console and track views.
  11. Improved Plugin Navigation/And "Pin"-ning Plugin UI's - Users should be able to click from plugin to plugin on a channel directly from the plugin menu bar, instead of having to go back to the Console or Inspector views. One GUI would be open at a time by default, unless the user "pinned" or "locked" the GUI open, at which point any subsequent plugins would open in a new window.
  12. Opening VSTi's From the Console View - I don't even need a button, perhaps just let me double click on empty space on the Console view and have that open the GUI.
  13. MIDI - Non-Destructive Swing, Quantization, and Groove Quantization. Add a menu in the PRV that allows for realtime, non-destructive editing of swing, quantization, and groove quantization.
  14. Smaller GUI: Smaller (or Hide-able) Toolbar/Ribbon
  15. Properly Supporting Mono Plugin Processing for UAD (leads to a roughly 40% increase in UAD plugin counts)
  16. Console GUI - Mono/Stereo Interleave and Phase Reversal buttons on all audio/instrument tracks.
  17. MIDI PRV (and general window rules) - Open PRV (and other windows) with "Last Viewed" state (i.e. open the PRV exactly where/how it was when I last closed it).
  18. Improved Project Versioning. See Studio One's fantastic implementation where I can save and revert to entirely indpendent versions/mixes of projects all within a single file.
  19. Save recorded MIDI data in the Project Audio folder (like it were an audio recording) instead of in the CWP file. This way, if a project somehow does get corrupted, I still have the MIDI tracks.
  20. GUI - Fullscreen Console View
  21. Console View: Stereo Pan Pots - Still hard to believe I can't pan stereo tracks independently without having to go Channel Tools or a similar plugin.
  22. Gapless Audio
  23. Proper Instrument Tracks - Think Simple instrument tracks that seamlessly allow for MIDI or Audio effects
  24. Even Fewer Pop-Up Windows - Does pasting really need a pop window? Clicking and dragging an instrument from the browser? Stop asking me what I want to do and just do it.
  25. Simplified Audio Snap - This feature has become harder to use in the X series IMO (specifically tempo mapping a live performance), and it wasn't that easy to use before.
  26. Plugin Effects that can send MIDI should not have to be instruments.
  27. No More "Plug-in Properties" (just make the plugins work with things like tempo-syncing without having to edit the properties)
  28. Simplified Snap and Event Durations. I was never confused about what my Snap or Event Durations were before the X series. Some of the features that were created to simplify things, seem to have made these features more difficult to use.
  29. A little Staff View love.
  30. Varispeed Playback/Recording.
  31. Allow Me To Change Buffer Settings (i.e. Open ASIO Control Panel) or Change Preset "Buffer Profiles" From the Toolbar. I switch from low latency (recording) to high latency (mixing) quite often, and it would be nice not to have to go to Edit - Preferences - Audio - Open Control Panel each time. 
  32. Pro-Tools Session Import (if legal/possible)
  33. OS-X Version. In case I ever drop the PC platform (which some days, I'd like to)
 
Feel free to ask if you have questions on any of this stuff, don't know what I meant, or have more details. Most of the feature requests are things that I like about other DAW's that I'd like to see in Sonar.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 22:11:10 (permalink)
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Have you put in official features request.



FYI - in regards to my list, I've been in touch with Andrew and provided him a version of this list that includes more details on each feature request and bug. He's been clear that he could make no promises about any of it but agreed to review it.

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/07 22:25:48 (permalink)
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Fix the bugs first. Enhancements can wait till X4. I expect to pay money for features and enhancements but don't expect to pay money for bugfixes.... Besides all features and enhancements do is introduce new bugs ;)

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 03:12:12 (permalink)
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 An option to return the Save icon back to the toolbar would be nice - 
 
  http://forum.cakewalk.com/SAVE-Icon-request-m2550851.aspx
 
Granted plenty of people are happy with ctrl-s but some clearly miss the icon.  I still hit ctrl-z every once in a while and if I'm lucky I realize before I make 4 more changes.... 
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 04:41:49 (permalink)
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New:
FX BUS channel. When I create this FX BUS I can just choose the FX Plugins


This is new FX BUS I can hide in Console View like a simple Bus.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 04:42:52 (permalink)
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...Or abandon that and start an open feature request forum like the one in PreSonus forums.



Agreed.  Feature requests should be public, not private, and open to discussion.


YES!
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 05:08:31 (permalink)
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Drag and drop from windows explorer, the browser in Sonar doesnt cut it for me.

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 08:03:03 (permalink)
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are you guys overlooking something more fundamental? the ability to change FONT SIZE in all views. or maybe this is something that was requested long ago and deemed impossible
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 13:09:16 (permalink)
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A new option in Export Audio to allow automatic exporting of takes as individual files.  Very important for sharing projects with engineers using different DAWs.  I have already submitted this as a feature request.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 13:14:39 (permalink)
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are you guys overlooking something more fundamental? the ability to change FONT SIZE in all views. or maybe this is something that was requested long ago and deemed impossible


That would probably only be possible with a console that is displayed using vector graphics (that would be a lot of work).

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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 13:19:47 (permalink)
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#4 is prob not going to happen. We told people who bought it that we wouldn't turn around and include it. They are actually priced pretty well considering how good the DSP is...specially the Concrete Limiter and CA-2A Leveling Amplifier.

 
Speaking as someone who bought concrete limiter, I say include that bad boy. It is a really good limiter, much nicer than Boost, and I think a good limiter is something every DAW needs. I'd toss it in as an included feature. Personally, wouldn't make me angry. I pay for stuff I want, I've no expectation of exclusivity in the future.
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Re: Sonar X3d or X4 wishlist 2013/11/08 13:29:22 (permalink)
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#4 is prob not going to happen. We told people who bought it that we wouldn't turn around and include it. They are actually priced pretty well considering how good the DSP is...specially the Concrete Limiter and CA-2A Leveling Amplifier.  


Agreed! They also sound real good considering the price. Good buy.

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