Beagle

g_randybrown


works a treat with the NIC disabled, locks up with it enabled (computer not Sonar)............ 



I'm pretty sure this is a dumb question but what is NIC and how do I disable it?
Thanks very much,
Randy

Network Interface Card.
 
to disable it, go to MY NETWORKS right click on the network card and choose DISABLE.  right click again to ENABLE

mudgel


Justify it however you like; once you stoop to the same level as those about whom you complain you kind of get what you pay for.

You have to learn to discern the difference between fact and opinion. Takes time and as domeone just said above filter out the rubbish and don't even respond.

Lucky for you some people stuck around and worked hard to give you help despite yourself. It would be a sign of respect to Cakewalk and those who helped you, to modify your thread title and mark it as solved once you have the confidence that your system is working reliably for a while.

I decided to make a few comments as i thought that as a fellow aussie you might benefit from some "sage" advice.

Goseba

Beagle

then write a song about those jerks in the other threads...

Thanks for the suggestion but they are not worth the effort, I have wasted far too much time on them anyway. I hope to be less wound up tomorrow and at least Sonar ran well tonight in testing.

g_randybrown

Beagle

g_randybrown


works a treat with the NIC disabled, locks up with it enabled (computer not Sonar)............ 



I'm pretty sure this is a dumb question but what is NIC and how do I disable it?
Thanks very much,
Randy

Network Interface Card.

to disable it, go to MY NETWORKS right click on the network card and choose DISABLE.  right click again to ENABLE

I've heard that <b>wireless</b> network cards can be bad news but what about one plugged directly into a router?
Thanks Beagle,
Randy  

Jim Roseberry


Shane,
 
The vast majority of Sonar users do not encounter show-stopping stability issues.
Otherwise, the company would be out of business...
 
Regarding issues like Vvocal... or your example of the included plugin, yeah... I agree that it should work as expected.
But these types of issues are *easy* to work around.
I'm not going to lose any sleep over Vvocal when Melodyne is available.
I'm not going to get my blood pressure up over any included plugin... when there's a plethora of other (similar - and some would say better) options available.
I think it's just a matter of priority... and picking/choosing your battles.
 
Way back at Pro Audio 4 (first version of Cakewalk to offer audio recording - @16Bits), I struggled to get stable operation of the application.  And yes, I had the same attitude (must be crap software).
Took me a while to figure it out... but ultimately the problem wasn't CPA... it was my hardware/config.
Once that was squared away... CPA worked as expected.
 
We talk about this regularly, but you can throw out any major DAW application... and experienced users can "shoot holes" in it.  They all have issues/limitations/etc...
In another thread, one Sonar user mentioned composing 5 pieces of completed music in an afternoon.
IMO, That's a fairly productive day.
To use a sports analogy (cheesy I know)... this guy's got the ball... scans the field and see's that the left side of the line is plugged up... so he's going to cut right and head for the end-zone.
That doesn't mean Sonar's perfect/flawless... but it's certainly a productive tool for many end users.
 
"If you can't be with the one you love (the perfect DAW), love the one you're with."
Learn to make the situation work...
-Sometimes that may mean a hardware change.
-Sometimes that may mean a config tweak.
-Sometimes that may mean finding a work-around.
No matter which platform/application you choose... you'll have to find ways to circumvent problems/limitations/etc.
 

Goseba


@ ba_midi,
You are a respected member here and I just noticed in another thread you indicate that 3rd party plugins are likely to cause Sonar to crash. I appreciate you were taking the piss in that thread but was it based on fact? I don't recall anyone suggesting that here but it could be an issue. Are there plugins that are known to give issues? If so it would be good to know which ones please. 
 
This is a serious question, not a dig by the way.

I think my crash on start up issue would have been too soon for it to have started scanning vst's, but you never know.

lorneyb2


   If your project hangs or Sonar won't load check processes in task manager to see if any are still showing up there.(usually if one doesn't close properly SONARPDR.EXE will still be showing up there as well)  They should all close out when you close Sonar.  I have run into problems in 64bit with bitbridge not closing out a VST properly. If so I use the jBridge wrapper and check the dirty close box to prevent that problem. 

I've seen numerous posts on the forums where people have had issues with plugins. I don't think I've ever seen an issue that causes major repeatable crashes from plugins that were purchased, but it could happen. mostly it's from the free ones, tho, there are definitely free plugins which could cause crashes in sonar!

scxy11

lorneyb2


  If your project hangs or Sonar won't load check processes in task manager to see if any are still showing up there.(usually if one doesn't close properly SONARPDR.EXE will still be showing up there as well)  They should all close out when you close Sonar.  I have run into problems in 64bit with bitbridge not closing out a VST properly. If so I use the jBridge wrapper and check the dirty close box to prevent that problem. 

Remember to give Sonar some time to close, though.  When you load a bunch of stuff in, Sonar allocates system memory for it all.  When you go to close it, it has to deallocate all that memory and return it to the operating system.  If you try to start Sonar again while this is happening, it won't start (and unfortunately won't give you any message).  You may think Sonar isn't working, but it just hasn't finished returning the memory.  You can see this by opening taskbar to the performance tab, closing Sonar, and watch the allocated memory drop steadily.  Once it finishes, you can run Sonar again.  If, by some chance, you have gone past your system memory and gotten into virtual memory, it will take very long time to exit.

Goseba


@ba_midi
I haven't quoted to save screen space.

I don't think I mentioned it in this thread, but in my previous thread when I had the same problem I confirmed then that starting in safe mode Sonar still crashed.

I don't have a vast amount of VST's (see post further up the page). Are any of these known to cause issues?