Fog
it's interesting it may be considered "not cricket".. but it can be argued many other things use an import function.. also the fact gibson ain't doing cakewalk users any favours.
 
as long as it's not exporting the same format.. then good luck them trying to claim against it. it could be argued also that they are trying to have a monopoly on users, if they aren't providing future updates / products.
 
remember various samplers for a start allow importing..
 
also check the libs cakewalk uses to make soner.. open source  / gpl in some cases ?
 

emwhy
Still no crashes, had one huge project that didn't load at all and said there 116 conversion errors, just left a blank project in Reaper, no audio or MIDI files loaded.

Given that it may be impossible to do soft synth settings this is good because at least in SONAR if you name the clip with the synth preset, the name will be displayed in Reaper as well so you can find the preset you used.

It did not transfer over track volume or pan settings, but not a big deal.

azslow3
Sonar EULA has reverse engineering clause, 3.2 and 3.5 (in the user guide version). But all that is about the Product. Do you think that YOUR cwp/wav/MIDI files are a part of the (Cakewalk) Product? Sorry, but according to 3.1 you are not allowed to even freely copy them in this case.
I mean if your are the owner of WAV/MIDI/CWP files produced by Sonar, you can do with them whatever you like. If you think that is not right, please give some reference.
 
But there is another view point... Even in case EULA had explicit statement "you are not allowed to reverse engineer the output from our program" (I have not found it in that particular EULA), such statement is void in EU. Like f.e. 4.3 in Cakewalk EULA about forbidding to transfer the license. There was several known precedents in court with attempts to avoid re-sales (based on EULA statements) or block input/output files conversion/use. All these attempts (all I aware of) have failed so far (based on EU regulations).

dubdisciple
Which is why i clearly said that regardless of any of our opinions it is highly unlikely Gibson pursues this. If you want a true test, attempt same thing with living product.

The person having a right to use a copy of a computer program shall be entitled, without the authorisation of the rightholder, to observe, study or test the functioning of the program in order to determine the ideas and principles which underlie any element of the program if he does so while performing any of the acts of loading, displaying, running, transmitting or storing the program which he is entitled to do.

The authorisation of the rightholder shall not be required where reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning of points (a) and (b) of Article 4(1) are indispensable to obtain the information necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs, provided that the following conditions are met:
(a) those acts are performed by the licensee or by another person having a right to use a copy of a program, or on their behalf by a person authorised to do so;
(b) the information necessary to achieve interoperability has not previously been readily available to the persons referred to in point (a); and
(c) those acts are confined to the parts of the original program which are necessary in order to achieve interoperability.

martins guit
i get this error when click open CWP
 

 
im using SONAR 7 on a windows XP could it be the problem?
 
thanks martin