Yes, I am running SP2 (was one of the main reasons for the clean install.) I don't know what EdirolVSC even is - I've been a very basic user of the program...

Hang in there. From what I've seen, there are some pretty big guns here with a lot of expertise.
I believe you can go to Insert>DXI>Edirol>VSC in HS2004. Could be wrong, but I think I've seen references to it for earlier versions.
Good call Jamz.
Are there any video capture/TV cards on the system? Could be a conflict there if thats the case.

Robert, I did the insert and I got the Edirol (still not clear what it is, but it came up). Made the mistake of hitting a note, and crashed

DeBro, in my control panel the default device is E-DSP Wave [ECC0] - is this not correct (That is the only choice I have)? I guess I could do a re-install of the drivers, doesn't seem like that would be it though (what would be different this time?), I could try that tomorrow (heading to bed soon.)

FYI, the device manager says this item is working properly and no conflicts are showing. I tried the troubleshoot mode for the device, the only thing it seemed to come up with is the driver is not digitally signed, and claims that could cause system instability. Should it be signed?

I assume this has to do with the part where you skip over the windows message that it's not compatible with 'windows logo testing' or whatever during install.

Here's a shot of what i see in Device Manager and the properties of the card:



I really appreciate the continued attempts to help guys Thanks a LOT.

Tom

Yep, gotta rule out a bad driver.
You want 1.81 and 1.82. You need to update both, patchmix, and device driver.

Yes, that's Microsoft's way of extorting money from software developers to get their "seal of approval" for their drivers. Just ignore the message and move on.

The Emu cards need to have their own unshared IRQ for proper operation. Check these E-Mu FAQs to help you better prepare for the re-install.

Tom,
When you go to the E-MU site for the latest drivers, look for the "Everything Works" download.
http://www.emu.com/support/files/download3.asp?Centric=764&Platform=1&File=377
That did the job for me on my 1212M, and it's been smooth sailing since.
Good luck.

Well, I tried re-installing the driver, and that had the same result. I uninstalled again (crashing while doing so). There were 3 entries in add/remove programs - the driver, the patchmix and something labeled digital audio system (that one was 160mb). It won't let me uninstall the patchmix now, since it says it cannot find any compatible hardware.

FYI I did check the IRQ and there were no conflicts - no problems supposedly with the driver either.

Is there a particular order you're supposed to do this in? I downloaded the updated from the site and am not using the CD at all. Also, can someone explain to me how patchmix fits into the equation? Shouldn't my audio just work regardless of how patchmix is being used? Isn't that just a tool for recording?

And the frustration builds...

Tom.
Your soundblaster was a PCI card, right? You may still have an integrated sound chip active. Motherboards without integrated audio are extremely rare.
In Device Manager, look under the heading"Other Devices". Do you see "Multimedia Audio Controller"? If so, this is the integrated chip. Disable it.
Even though the system doesn't detect a direct conflict, if two different components are trying to grab the same data, it can cause the system to hang.
Bottom line, if you had a separate sound card installed, you actually have two sound devices to get rid of in most cases.
You don't need to delete anything. Just disable the device.

Take a look at that Legacy Video Capture Device and the Media Control Devices. That Media Control looks like a prime suspect. If Properties reveals it to be enabled on PCI Bus 0, that may be the culprit. Try disabling that and see what happens. If it turns out to be essential, it can easily be enabled again.

ORIGINAL: RobertB

Take a look at that Legacy Video Capture Device and the Media Control Devices. That Media Control looks like a prime suspect. If Properties reveals it to be enabled on PCI Bus 0, that may be the culprit. Try disabling that and see what happens. If it turns out to be essential, it can easily be enabled again.

How can I tell what Bus it is enabled on? For those 2 legacy and media items, I don't get a disable option at all. For the "Media Control Devices" one, in properties the device type is "Sound, video and game controllers" in the properties it shows



For the "Legacy Audio Drivers" and "Legacy Video Capture Devices" they also say Sound, video and game controllers, and the props are empty on both. Does that help?

Ok, I have the same thing listed on mine, and it appears to be core drivers rather than a physical device. I don't see anything else pointing to another device in your screen shot.
This approach may be a dead end. I'll keep looking though.
Stray thought. You don't by chance have any analog devices plugged into the RCA connectors(marked spdif) on the digital side of the 0404? I'm not sure what this would do, but I thought I'd ask.

OK...

First off, you have two busses in Patchmix. The first one is your Master buss. All of your strip inserts connect to the Master buss by default (although you can change this). The Aux Returns also feed into this master buss. You can set also connect any or all of your physical outs to this buss. Volume for this buss is controlled by the Main Volume control, in the bottom right-hand corner, where it says "Main Mix".

There is also a Monitor buss. Sound goes from the Master buss to the Monitor buss, through the Monitor volume and pan controls in the very bottom right-hand corner.

In the upper right-hand corner is a window. You can click on the three buttons above the window ("Effect", "Inputs", "Output") to switch between three different settings. Set it to "Outputs".

See the orange line labeled "MIX"? It's hooked to your S/PDIF output. This means that your master buss is feeding the S/PDIF outputs of your card. If you have nothing hooked to the S/PDIF output, then you can just ignore this.

However, see the green "MON" line? It's hooked to your primary output ("PCI Card Out 1/2"). This means that all sound going through your system goes first through the "Main Mix" settings in the bottom right, and then through the "Monitor" settings in the bottom right, and then finally to the physical output.

Actually, this is probably a good setup, now that I think about it. It means you can completely mute your card's output by hitting the Mute button in the "Monitor" section.

Now look at the bays in the Aux Sends. These are in the middle, on the right side of the screen. The Aux 1 controls in the strips (labeled "1") control volume of the send to Aux 1. Likewise for Aux 2. You have two ASIO Sends inserted into Aux 1, and a reverb inserted into Aux 2.

If you click on the ASIO Sends in Aux 1, you should be able to see details about them. Then maybe you can figure out why there are two.

In any case, when you start Home Studio, what do you see in Options->Audio->Drivers?

Sinc.
You are confusing the guy (or gal) at this stage. That PatchMix session was downloaded from the Emu site and is titled "0404 Stereo product Default Session for WDM and ASIO applications." The sends in the Aux master section are ASIO and Wave sends for stereo recording. There's nothing wrong with the configuration. The problem is why all audio applications are crashing. The Emu drivers have to be working properly in Windows first.

It seems to me that it's software related and there are remnants of the old soundcard drivers that are not immediately visible and are conflicting with the Emu drivers.

This maybe a harsh measure. It's best to restart with a reformat of the hard drive and clean install of Windows XP. Make sure nothing from the Creative SB Live gets installed

I think Dell motherboards don't have integrated audio. The internet computer that I'm typing this on is a Dell. I checked and there is none. But he should still check his.