Superior 2.0 WOW

I just received my Superior Drummer 2.0 from toontrack, and man, the Avatar samples are outstanding. Can't wait to transfer them to some existing projects. The new software is killer, allow endless configurations with all other toontrack projects. You can get exactly the kit you want.

ORIGINAL: DigiBiu

I just received my Superior Drummer 2.0 from toontrack, and man, the Avatar samples are outstanding. Can't wait to transfer them to some existing projects. The new software is killer, allow endless configurations with all other toontrack projects. You can get exactly the kit you want.

Be aware though that the NY Avatar kit that S2.0 comes with has very different midi velocity sensitivity than other kits like from DFHS or from EZ-Drummer. I got my copy of S2.0 yesterday and recorded a test from my V-Drums pad kit. Using only that one test recording, I rendered the midi data using the DW kit from DFHS loaded up in S2.0, the EZX-DFH kit from EZ-Drummer loaded up in S2.0, and using the NY Avatar kit that comes native with S2.0 The DFHS and EZX kits are fairly similar and could easily be swapped back and forth, but playing the same midi data to the Avatar kit, produces radically different results.

Here are the three samples using the exact same midi data in each test.

DW kit from DFHS loaded up in S2.0
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=403575&songID=6708421

DFH kit from EZ-Drummer loaded up in S2.0
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=403575&songID=6708438

NY Avatar kit that comes with S2.0
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=403575&songID=6708446

Keep in mind, all three of these are using the exact same midi file each time, and it is very apparent that the Avatar kit doesn't respond to midi velocity the same as the other two kits. It takes a harder hit to produce a similar volume to the other kits. I will be tweaking the Avatar kit over the weekend to make it respond more closely to the way the other kits do, because I want to be able to swap kits back and forth to see which one fits the song the best, so they have to be able to playback velocity wise, at least fairly similar to each other.

wow - I can feel my wallet already cryin' :)

Is it really THAT much better than EZD ? Better than Addictive Drums as well (I don't have much experience with AD but in the little i was able to play with it I liked it) ?

Well, for certain things AD is absolutely wonderful. And all the tweakability is great. But it looks like Superior 2.0 may be the new sheriff in town.

You don't need to have DFH installed to use Superior, but you might want to install it, just so you can use the sound library. Superior only has the Avatar samples, but Superior's sample library is massive, 7 DVDs if I remember. You only need to have DFH registered in order to get the uprade registered.

Yeah, I hope to have my hands on this shortly... it definitely looks very nice... and I love the ability to use all the EZX kits. That will be a lot of fun.

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Scott

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Sorry, I meant to say that DFH Superior has a 7DVD library, not the new Superior 2.0. The new Avatar library is only 5 DVD's

i am ordering my copy next week....the upgrade from 1.0 is 130 bucks.......looking forward to getting this one

Well, I started the install tonite. . .too late, I'm afraid, and when I saw it was gonna take over 3 hours to install all 20 gigs I bailed until tomorrow. Hope this won't cause any problems. Should I completely uninstall and start again or am I OK to just start installing the sound library again tomorrow morning?

ORIGINAL: Mod Bod

I got my V-Drums dialed in to match the Avatar kit now. Here's a sample of what I'm getting now with it.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=403575&songID=6711003

Well, there you have it. Sounds like drums.

I like the rim sounds on the toms.

Actually, I'm using single trigger pads on the toms, and what you're hearing is just the "smacked real hard" samples kicking in. I have dual trigger on the snare, and all cymbals including hihat, but my toms are all single. I could go dual trigger on toms, but I'd have to either upgrade my V-Drums brain, or go to all single trigger pads for the cymbals, which I don't want to do.

How about a little hi hat work for the crowd?

Gimme another day or so to get it dialed in, and Ill run something up the flagpole. ;)

Anyone also have BFD 2.0? I'd love to hear some thoughts on how they stack up against each other.

My dilemma is that I own about $1000 of BFD drums, so upgrading to BFD 2 would seem like a good idea to get more mileage out of what I already own. On the other hand, I also have EZD along with the Vintage and Nashville expansions, so that also seems like I "need'" to get upgrade for the exact same reasons.

My main complaint with BFD 1.5x is that the grooves aren't as well organized as EZD. Perhaps that has been remedied with 2.0? The other complaint with BFD is that I already have about 55 gigs devoted to its drums, and I'd need to double that for BFD 2.0. Superior 2.0's smaller footprint is attactive to me. The Toontack compression that was used on the 16-bit samples on EZD sounded plenty fine and I imagine that the 24-bit samples are just wonderful.

If I elect to get off the BFD bandwagon I wonder what the resale value is for my BFD "Jazz and Funk" and "Deluxe Collections"?

Sorry for the rambling :-)

how is the authorization now? version 1 was just a serial # for getting updates.....I rather prefer that way. it isn't real painful is it?

Great sounds, great tweakability, and the ability to import and use instruments from other drum samplers. It's great!!

The new X-Pads are way cool. I put a full compliment of Latin Percussion instruments from DFHS in with the Avatar kit.

Here's what it looks like:

http://members.cox.net/bowie17/Percussion.jpg

And here's how it sounds:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=403575&songID=6714604

Sigh...

Sadly I must wait a couple of months before getting any new gear...

ORIGINAL: yorolpal

OK, the next question for Glenbo or Mod is: Any Sonar drum maps available for Superior 2.0???

You really don't need drum maps with Superior 2.0 Just like DFHS, it has a "learn" button where you select a sound you want to assign to a key or drum pad, click learn, hit the key or pad and it's assigned.