Robin Kelly [Cakewalk
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Just looking at the post I am not seeing much related to SONAR. Totally not opposed to the thread but it belongs in the software forum since this thread is focused on non-Cakewalk software.

Robin

Would you please have a look at this post too? ;)

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1824355

I don't think the chap has necessarily found anything better in Reaper at all. For him it may just be the better of two evils. At the end of the day I doubt he's worried about who's product he's using. He just wants to be using a tool that works for 'him'. I do believe it's an attention seeking exercise but not for the drama aspect. It's just that he's so damn frustrated and doesn't know how to solve his problem that he tries to pass the pain on. So he tells us and trys to make us feel sympathetic and guilty and if some of us agree with him that justifies his decision. We shouldn't expect to get any logical information at this point either, this is an entirely emotional response to a situation where he's frustrated and angry.

I've felt the same. Sonar is not intuitive for me in quite a few ways. I came from Cakewalk 4 Dos days, coming up through Pro Audio. I loved all of that. Sonar did not come easy. It took me a long time to reach the same level of productivity I had enjoyed with the earlier products.

Anyway, good luck to him. I hope he finds something he gets to enjoy. After all, it's supposed to be fun. 

"A customer with a problem is an opportunity to win a customer for life."

Roll well ..

Paul Slocum


The price difference is not significant because I do enough professional music work that I require the commercial license for Reaper.  When you take into account the effects and softsynths that are included with Reaper and Sonar, the pricing is actually similar.

OK, now you're joking, right?

Marah


daveny5 << Why not be honest and admit its because you don't want to have to pay for Sonar?  >>


It's sad to think that serious DAW users would think that serious DAW users would make a decision like that based on price. Unfortunately, that seems to be the kind of user attitude and technical understanding, and inertia in loyalty drag, that CW's business seems increasingly dependent on, and that its (apparently) combined marketing and development efforts are geared towards. (Could this be a case CW listening to their customers too well?)

I've been thinking about this. Switching applications is not a decision made lightly, especially when the application is central to what you do, and when what you do means something to you. I've done it only once before with a core application, when I switched from WordPerfect to Microsoft Word.

I think that's why we see all these dramatic "I'm leaving" and "I'm switching" announcements. It's not always easy to actually make the switch, especially if you're attached to the product or the company or feel an attachment to the user community (even if that's based more on a certain shared experience than on running up an embarrassing post count.)

The dramatic "I'm switching" announcement is part of the separation process. Like a rite of passage. Like if I make a public declaration, it means that I've really done it. Or at least that I kind of have to go through with it. Sort of like a weird variation of "stop me before I kill again." In other words, the drama reflects the trauma.

I've never made such a post. But I think I understand the impulse.

That all sounds nice and I hope you are right. But there's something vengeful in some of these "I'm Leaving Posts". In general, artists, musicians, entertainers need attention and I think the OP falls into that category. Making an announcement this way seems disrespectful to the loyal and helpful users here. I agree with the "go to your new home forum" and write away. Or if you want to mention you've switched in the context of another Sonar post - fine. But don't start a post here to announce it. What is to be gained? What did he want from this? He needs validation you think??? Too lame for my taste. That is MHO.

BTW - I own a Reaper license and think it is a nice daw. If the price were similar I would own ALL of the major DAWs out there. I would love to use the best they have to offer as needed for a project. So Price was a major driver for me to chose to purchase a secondary DAW. Reaper fit the bill nicely, powerful, interesting and a great bargain. However, to be clear, I would have much preferred to have tried Cubase as a secondary platform. But the price is too far up there considering that I can accomplish everything I really need in Sonar.

I think I am like a lot of folks - I have terminal DAW curiosity... There is no cure. However, it is also not a crusade of mine. Which ever program we choose, if we input decent music, we will usually get decent music out plus a little icing.