mixmkr
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and to hopefully not steer thing off course. ... how does this compare to the Boss GT-100 or the Line6 HD500....
I won't go into Kemper land or Fractal..
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clintmartin
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I just downloaded the demo and I have a HD500. I'll let you know what I think as soon as I have time to play with it.
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Marcus Curtis
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Well after reading through this thread I discovered a lot of questions I will try and answer the ones I remember? lol,
1. Yes you can use the demo as a plug in. navagate to the overloud folder and copy the dll files into your Sonar default vst folder.
2. there are some limits on the demo. you will get a basic idea how it works but the full version seems easier to understand and operate.
3. I Have used Pod Farm 2.5. TH2 has some better sounding amps than the line 6 collection. better than Revalver too. that is just my opinion. I think this will be the amp modler for everyone else to beat!
4. One thing about this is it acts a lot more like a real amp. When I play through a tube amp there is an interaction that happens that I don't get with amp modlers. well.. that is until now. The TH2 acts a lot like a real amp. This is the thing that really surprised me. feed back palm muting all the interation you get from tubes is there. I think that is the thing that impressed me most.
5. The volume wah pedals will operate independently if you have a midi foot switch/controller
The full version has 999 factory presets and 999 user presets. more than enough to play with. The amps in this are like no other sim out there. Just my opinion
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soens
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One more thing I noticed. Loading in one (1) of Oveland's awesome plugins almost doubles the CPU load.
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Been playin for the last few hours with just the Bassman amp, a 1x10 speaker and sm57 mic, and using different compression, chorus and drives. Ive played till im sore LOL... This thing just kicks ass! ; ) Luvin it...
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Been playin for the last few hours with just the Bassman amp, a 1x10 speaker and sm57 mic, and using different compression, chorus and drives. Ive played till im sore LOL... This thing just kicks ass! ; ) Luvin it...
Have you tried running 2 instances of TH2 at the same time over VSTi, like 2 guitarists jamming, and does is double up the cpu usage ? Thanks!
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mikey
Been playin for the last few hours with just the Bassman amp, a 1x10 speaker and sm57 mic, and using different compression, chorus and drives. Ive played till im sore LOL... This thing just kicks ass! ; ) Luvin it...
Have you tried running 2 instances of TH2 at the same time over VSTi, like 2 guitarists jamming, and does is double up the cpu usage ?
Thanks!
I used it today on four seperate tracks. a different tone for each guitar. I did not pay attention to the CPU meter but I had no problems. The project had 18 tracks.
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tomixornot
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Thanks Marcus, great info.
I'm glad the TH2 upgrade does not (yet) have a time limit on the offer.
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I have GR5, Amplitube and the excellent S-Gear, and as the TH2 upgrade to the full version is £79 - equal to what I'm paying to get X2 - I can't see enough value for money there to take the plunge. I'll wait for a special offer.
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bobguitkillerleft
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I downloaded the demo. I have GR4, S-Gear, Amplitube Free and AcmeBarGi and I think TH2 is pretty good, comparatively speaking. However, it has the same high frequency shrillness to it as the others. Well... AcmeBarGig doesn't have that, but the rest do.
Having said that, I will consider getting the full TH2. I need to play with it some more once X2 comes out first.
Thanks for the heads up on trying the demo!
Yeah I reckon that "top end FIZZ" is what separates a lot of Amp sims[and some more modern recorded guitar-Creed comes to mind] with good distortion coming from a Celestion 25w Greenback for instance,although Craig Anderton has an interesting way of reducing it via de-essing on one of the "Advanced" vids. Chero Bob
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I have Overloud's excellent VKFX (Vintage Keyboards Effects) which add so much more to electric pianos and e-piano patches so I am sure TH-2 will also be excellent. I am looking forward to the lite verson in X2 but i think I will hold off on the full version for the time being as I already have GR5 and Amplitube with tons of extras to use with my "virtual" guitars.
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bobguitkillerleft
maximumpower
I downloaded the demo. I have GR4, S-Gear, Amplitube Free and AcmeBarGi and I think TH2 is pretty good, comparatively speaking. However, it has the same high frequency shrillness to it as the others. Well... AcmeBarGig doesn't have that, but the rest do.
Having said that, I will consider getting the full TH2. I need to play with it some more once X2 comes out first.
Thanks for the heads up on trying the demo!
Yeah I reckon that "top end FIZZ" is what separates a lot of Amp sims[and some more modern recorded guitar-Creed comes to mind] with good distortion coming from a Celestion 25w Greenback for instance,although Craig Anderton has an interesting way of reducing it via de-essing on one of the "Advanced" vids.
Chero
Bob
Thanks for reminding me about that. I have both his vids but forgot about the amp sim tips. When I tried GR4 (the first sim I owned), I was using multiple low pass filters in series in the FX bin, along with GR4. I also turned off GR4s cab sim and used a free IR tool. I could get a good sound. It was just such a hassle. I am not sure why all these amp sims (apart from ABG) have this high end harshness to them. I just want to insert into Fx bin and go! lol I can get a better sound quicker mic'ing my amp. The negative is I only have one amp so I don't have the versatility. Oh yeah, and my amp is LOUD! lol Since TH2 comes free with X2, I certainly will try it out more.
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mattox82
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I've gotta say TH2 is pretty fkin spectacular. I spent hours today playing and it really does feel and sound fantastic.
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Pragi
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This sounds very interesting, what you are reporting bout the TH 2.
Some weeks ago I used the opportunity to upgrade GR 5 .
To me Gr 5 is good for refinement of pop sounds and "classic" sounds.
If the heavier sounds need some refinement I use Line 6 .
Wher do you guys see the strengths of TH 2 , more in the
classic sound area (Pop,Funk,Mainstream-Rock, Jazz) or in the heavier
sounds ( heavy, stonerl aso) ?
Thanks!
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mikey
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It sounds more like an amp, and less like a piece of software for one Pragi... YMMV as always...
post edited by mikey - 2012/09/09 10:07:17
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Pragi
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No software for me?
That´s good.Thanks!
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stratman70
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Didn't really impress me-I can get Guitar rig 4 to sound pretty good. But then again I own an AXE FX II so none of that stuff will impress me :-)
Still think GR4 or 5 is OK
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Marcus Curtis
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Pragi
This sounds very interesting, what you are reporting bout the TH 2.
Some weeks ago I used the opportunity to upgrade GR 5 .
To me Gr 5 is good for refinement of pop sounds and "classic" sounds.
If the heavier sounds need some refinement I use Line 6 .
Wher do you guys see the strengths of TH 2 , more in the
classic sound area (Pop,Funk,Mainstream-Rock, Jazz) or in the heavier
sounds ( heavy, stonerl aso) ?
Thanks!
Well this is just mt opinion. But after having the full version of TH2 I think the disortion amp models sound better than any amp sim out there even line 6 and Pod farm. I will still use Pod Farm for the bass models and some effects. There seems to more interaction as to how an amp really responds when the TH2 amps are overdriven. There are 8 amp modles line 6 has that I still like when it comes to distortion models. When you compare clean amps they are really about the same in quality. The problem with the line 6 gear is I don't like any of their presets. but when I make my own I come up with some great sounding amps. The TH2 has great presets right out of the box. about the only thing I would change on some of them is to insert a noise gate. At first I had a hard time finding the noise gate but it is there. took a little time to get use to the GUI.
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Marcus Curtis
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Double post
post edited by Marcus Curtis - 2012/09/09 12:48:08
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mikey
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Didn't really impress me-I can get Guitar rig 4 to sound pretty good. But then again I own an AXE FX II so none of that stuff will impress me :-) Still think GR4 or 5 is OK Now if we could just get the AxeFX II boys to lower their gear to 99.00 ....  I wouldn't expect a $99.00 software to be able to produce the tones that a +2K guitar processor (which id love to own too) could. But what it does it do, it does it in spades IMO (key acronym here<<<)...
post edited by mikey - 2012/09/09 12:36:21
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Hey, Pragi... in GR5 try the Hot Solo head with MT-2 effect model (it's the Boss Metal Zone sim). After a little tweaking I managed to get a darned close representation of my old live sound (full on screecher metal). I may have one of the compressor modules on there too but the bulk of the tone is just the Hot Solo and the MT-2. Cheers.
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Pragi
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Afa amp simulations are ment, imo the AXE FX II and the KREMPER amp are one step ahead of the others. But to spend thousands of bucks for an amp-simulation is tooo muuuuch  for me, but who knows, in the future, if I win a lottery........ The best sound imo is a good miked amp (sm 57,sennheiser md 421 and e 9o6 ao ) and a good pre-amp together with a di box recorded signal which can be ,if necessary, edited with an amp simu to fatten it or so...... This still has not changed. Never heard an amp simu better then that. @ Beepster, thanks for the hind, i´ll try it this night. @ Marcus Curtis Thanks for the infos about the distortion sounds of TH 2.
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Thatsastrat
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I have just recently received GR5 Pro and I like it alot. Also have Pod Farm which I like. I have an old GNX3 Digitech modeler that I still enjoy using. I have downloaded the demo for TH2 and I liked the Randall models alot.
(big Randall fan)
So I read some where that the version that comes with X2 has a couple of the Randall amps included, so that will keep me going for now. I was hoping that Danny Danzi would show up and give some opinions. I know that Danny is a big supporter of Acme Bar Gig, and I really want to see what their Head Case package brings to the table, because their stuff truly reacts like a tube amp does as well.
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Beepster
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@Pragi... No problem. I actually find the Hot Solo sim to be the best of the bunch for rock/metal or anything requiring any serious distortion. It's not as squashy sounding as the others. Cheers.
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clintmartin
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So far I think the highgain is far better in TH2 compared against the HD500. The clean tones may be more of a challenge. I'll work on some of those before I comment. So far I'm impressed with it!
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clintmartin
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Well I'm glad to report that I'm wrong. Getting a good clean tone without the typical dinky sounding digital thing is really easy with TH2. The TH2 amps (along with the mic placement options) are really good, and the ability to load IRs is a very big plus.
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Beepster
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Excuse my ignorance... What's an IR?
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Beepster
Excuse my ignorance... What's an IR?
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Beepster
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hmm... thanks, but I've never heard that term. Guess I'd better look it up.
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Beepster: This is not an endorsement of the product (I have not used it myself) but I bet you buy the full version before the end of year
+1...I am willing to make the same bet
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