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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/07/31 16:09:16
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Really beautiful music, sounds fab here in England. I feel this is one of your best pieces, which says something, as all of your tunes/productions are of the highest order. :)
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/01 08:50:14
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LOVE IT!!! Just beautiful music and well produced, Dan.
Thank you Warren! I truly appreciate it! Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/01 08:51:16
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I thought the reverb was completely "orchestral hall" appropriate and added to the magical landscape. The introduction of the Eb before going to the C section is a really nice movement. All the instruments sound excellent, have wonderful parts, and suit/add to the mix, which I think is killer.
I have to admit that I got a big kick out of the castanets. LOL I got this wonderful sense of empowerment, that I have the tools/plugs, whatever/etc, to enjoy myself, big time! I can only imagine how pleased you are with it and how much fun it must have been to hear it back, once you got it to this level of development. Well done, you!
The castanets "made me go back and listen, again", to your delightful orchestration choices. So, on the 3rd listen this morning, I found myself thinking my life is just so fun. Thanks for the reminder!
Michael
Thanks again Michael! Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/01 09:23:34
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Dan Not having Komplete, nor Omnisphere (nor a Triton, and JV-2080 for that matter), I wonder what those two contributed to the excellent quality of your instrument patches/sounds. Would you give us a run down of that? That would be very informative, indeed. I am certain a number of us would love to know what you use (besides great skill and talent!)!
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/01 19:49:13
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Gave this a second listen and it sounded even better.
Thanks again! Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/01 19:50:08
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Really beautiful music, sounds fab here in England. I feel this is one of your best pieces, which says something, as all of your tunes/productions are of the highest order. :)
Thank you Gus! I do appreciate the kind words! Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/01 19:58:29
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Dan Not having Komplete, nor Omnisphere (nor a Triton, and JV-2080 for that matter), I wonder what those two contributed to the excellent quality of your instrument patches/sounds. Would you give us a run down of that? That would be very informative, indeed. I am certain a number of us would love to know what you use (besides great skill and talent!)!
Michael
Well, out of Komplete, the only thing I used was Kontakt. These are the libraries used (that I remember): Embertone Blakus Cello - Opening cello EastWest Symphony Orchestra - Cello ensemble, strings, brass, percussion EastWest Hollywood Orchestra - Strings, brass, percussion, opening harp Chris Hein Solo Violin - Lead violin Realitone Blue - First vocal 8Dio Jenifer - Second vocal (duet) Garritan GigaHarp - Melodic harp Impact Soundworks Highland Harps - Harp arpeggios BFD3 - Drums That's all I can remember, lol... Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/01 20:13:21
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Thanks for taking the time to list them. I will definitely be checking them out, after knowing what the results can be.
Michael
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/02 08:22:57
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pentimentosound
Thanks for taking the time to list them. I will definitely be checking them out, after knowing what the results can be.
Michael
Just remember: sales sales sales! Each one of these was purchased for 1/2 price. Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/02 08:33:38
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Being retired that is the only way I roll! LOL
I have only read about all of them, though I don't know if I used to have the GigaStudio harp....maybe I still have that on my old P4 PC. Hmmm. I'll have to crank that one up. LOL
I do have GPO5 ..
Say, do you recall which reverb/ambience(s) you used?
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/02 09:12:26
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pentimentosound
Being retired that is the only way I roll! LOL
I have only read about all of them, though I don't know if I used to have the GigaStudio harp....maybe I still have that on my old P4 PC. Hmmm. I'll have to crank that one up. LOL
I do have GPO5 ..
Say, do you recall which reverb/ambience(s) you used?
Michael
Lexicon PCM and ReMatrix (full version). I absolutely love the non-linear reverbs in the Lexicon. Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/02 09:23:08
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Well, they certainly sounded superb to me. I haven't upgraded to the full ReMatrix, yet, but am thinking that might be a good idea....!
Lexicon? Yup. I the LXP5? half rack and a full rack unit in my ca 2000-2006 studio (Pentimento Sound long gone, alas)and would love to "correct" the fact that they are gone!
I do have a few nice ones from PSP and T-Racks, to go with the ones that have been included with Sonar, too.
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/02 10:18:07
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Most excellent, Dan Are you a David Arkenstone fan by chance? That's who I immediately thought of when I heard Forest Queen. I hope that's not an insult ... 
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/02 13:39:47
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Whew glad someone brought this back from the archives....
Freaking fantastic, Dan! Nothing I'd touch here. At first I thought maybe the verb might have been a bit much in the beginning, then I thought "if I would have mixed this and used less verb, I would have only been using less because some person would make a stupid 80's comment to me about using verb." Fine as it is!
Just curious if you don't mind me asking?
With these libraries you use (which I have as well) how much do you find yourself tweaking them eq-wise when you work on something like this? Do you find the majority of the instruments work really well out of the box?
In my experience, I sometimes have to make them sound a little smaller or they will suck up the entire stereo field leaving no room for anything else. So I may high pass to the extreme at times. Other times, I have to tame the verb effects/room by using imagers to narrow the sounds a bit.
When I do eq, it's due to instruments that share a similar frequency masking each other a bit. Just curious if you've run into any of that and how you've dealt with it. Again, awesome job on this....loved it immensely! My girl and I are on a Game of Thrones kick at the moment....and one of the things we love about that series is the music and how awesome it is throughout. :)
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/02 14:34:31
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Most excellent, Dan
Are you a David Arkenstone fan by chance? That's who I immediately thought of when I heard Forest Queen. I hope that's not an insult ...
Thanks Bob! I was, years ago, during my New Age Is Cool phase. Not so much anymore... Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/02 14:41:37
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Danny Danzi
Whew glad someone brought this back from the archives....
Freaking fantastic, Dan! Nothing I'd touch here. At first I thought maybe the verb might have been a bit much in the beginning, then I thought "if I would have mixed this and used less verb, I would have only been using less because some person would make a stupid 80's comment to me about using verb." Fine as it is!
Just curious if you don't mind me asking?
With these libraries you use (which I have as well) how much do you find yourself tweaking them eq-wise when you work on something like this? Do you find the majority of the instruments work really well out of the box?
In my experience, I sometimes have to make them sound a little smaller or they will suck up the entire stereo field leaving no room for anything else. So I may high pass to the extreme at times. Other times, I have to tame the verb effects/room by using imagers to narrow the sounds a bit.
When I do eq, it's due to instruments that share a similar frequency masking each other a bit. Just curious if you've run into any of that and how you've dealt with it. Again, awesome job on this....loved it immensely! My girl and I are on a Game of Thrones kick at the moment....and one of the things we love about that series is the music and how awesome it is throughout. :)
-Danny
Thanks Danny! As for EQ'ing these libraries, yes, but only in the context of the song. In other words, if I was doing a pop song and using EWHO, I would have to EQ the crap out of the strings so they don't get in the way. For a song like this, there was a lot less EQ going on than I usually do, simply because the track had less going on than in your typical pop song. If instruments are masking each other in a track like this one, I usually try panning and gentle compression first, then EQ after if needed. Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/03 17:08:37
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I have a love of all things celtic...this is blissful to listen to. Love the way it builds and all comes together as the piece progresses. Amazed you did this with virtual instruments, fooled me!
I read above you are forced to leave it alone during week days and that allows you to hear things more objectively as a result. I get that, and I bet it enhances the final result.
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/03 19:37:28
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I have a love of all things celtic...this is blissful to listen to. Love the way it builds and all comes together as the piece progresses. Amazed you did this with virtual instruments, fooled me!
I read above you are forced to leave it alone during week days and that allows you to hear things more objectively as a result. I get that, and I bet it enhances the final result.
VI's are where it's at now days. You still have to play them, just like any other instrument. Glad you enjoyed the piece! Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/13 13:22:10
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Wow! This piece was amazing. Inspiring in so many ways. I am new and have a lot to learn but to me the sounds and composition were perfect. I agree that you still have to play VI's and I think that you really have mastered them.
John
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/14 14:39:39
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Very impressive, Dan! Nice.
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/15 08:04:32
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Firesong X
Wow! This piece was amazing. Inspiring in so many ways. I am new and have a lot to learn but to me the sounds and composition were perfect. I agree that you still have to play VI's and I think that you really have mastered them.
John
Thanks John! Getting some of these libraries to sound good in context is a real learning curve. You have to really get to know the libraries you are using. Regards, Dan
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Re: The Forest Queen
2016/08/15 08:33:52
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Paul G
Very impressive, Dan! Nice.
Thank you Paul! Regards, Dan
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