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The Forest Queen

A celtic/orchestral song that I had a lot of fun with.
 
https://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/track/the-forest-queen
 
Hope you enjoy!
 
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    skinnybones lampshade
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/03 20:27:17 (permalink)
    Yes, I enjoyed!
    Dan, I love Celtic music. My grandpa was a pretty good Scottish fiddler and played us many a reel and jig with one or the other of his children chording along on the piano. 
    Your music is more sweepingly grand, broader, more sophisticated and romantic than Grandpa's simple tunes, but that sweet basis, that drone and stretch up, that sob in the sound is in there so authentically that it immediately transported me back in time to one of the sweetest times of my life - when I was a child and Grandpa was playing. 
    Thank you for that!
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/04 06:55:48 (permalink)
    skinnybones lampshade
    Yes, I enjoyed!
    Dan, I love Celtic music. My grandpa was a pretty good Scottish fiddler and played us many a reel and jig with one or the other of his children chording along on the piano. 
    Your music is more sweepingly grand, broader, more sophisticated and romantic than Grandpa's simple tunes, but that sweet basis, that drone and stretch up, that sob in the sound is in there so authentically that it immediately transported me back in time to one of the sweetest times of my life - when I was a child and Grandpa was playing. 
    Thank you for that!
    LJ




    Thanks Laura! I'm glad you enjoyed this!
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/04 08:14:51 (permalink)
    My wife and I enjoyed it very much. It sounded fantastic on my head phones.The fun you had making it translates and transcends throughout the entire song. Excellent work.

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/04 08:24:20 (permalink)
    Dear dcumpian checked out "The Forest Queen" this morning with first cup of coffee and cigarette while waking up and looking at the woods behind my yard. Wow! What a treat. Very well done. I'm impressed. Thank-you.
     

     

     

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/04 11:30:07 (permalink)
    Yes, this is absolutely beautiful.  Listened on headphones and it is striking how perfectly formed it is in every way: song construction, melody, harmony, mix, everything.  Masterful.

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/04 15:40:15 (permalink)
    cwestmont
    Yes, this is absolutely beautiful.  Listened on headphones and it is striking how perfectly formed it is in every way: song construction, melody, harmony, mix, everything.  Masterful.


    i was thinking this but you summed it up perfectly. anyone from James Horner to Arcana to Enya to Cradle of Filth would love to write this.

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/04 20:28:28 (permalink)
    MCi
    My wife and I enjoyed it very much. It sounded fantastic on my head phones.The fun you had making it translates and transcends throughout the entire song. Excellent work.




    Thank you Ian! I really appreciate the kind words!
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/04 21:03:05 (permalink)
    Dan - this is just gorgeous man - your talent is just inspiring. This really makes my brain feel good. Your playing is so nice and the mix on this is perfect.
     
    You and Stringjammer should collaborate on a tune - that would be something to hear.

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/05 03:16:38 (permalink)
    You are really good. The song was great again. The melodies were uplifting and played well.

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/05 15:26:18 (permalink)
    Dan,
    Another stellar performance! Your mix, changes and arrangements are like a giant field that keeps blooming continuously, getting more colorful each time!
    Great dynamics, melody anf feel!
    Awesome!
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/05 17:38:58 (permalink)
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    Dear dcumpian checked out "The Forest Queen" this morning with first cup of coffee and cigarette while waking up and looking at the woods behind my yard. Wow! What a treat. Very well done. I'm impressed. Thank-you.
     



    Thanks for that Gerard. The woods are a great inspiration. I'm surrounded by them where I live, so the seasonal changes are always inspiring.
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/05 17:40:30 (permalink)
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    Yes, this is absolutely beautiful.  Listened on headphones and it is striking how perfectly formed it is in every way: song construction, melody, harmony, mix, everything.  Masterful.




    Thank you so much! I appreciate the comments!
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/05 18:01:11 (permalink)
    Breathtaking Dan. These are virtual instruments? I'm just curious as it is so beautiful. You should be scoring shows/movies.

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/06 01:49:08 (permalink)
    Awesome..... Dan,
     
    How long on average does it take you to finish a composition like that?  Do you also do the artwork for the tunes?
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/06 03:29:09 (permalink)
    yea....your work is always so polished and well fitted. This type of music is right up my Irish alley but has to be done right to draw me in. This is a gem for sure and I've got nothing to add except high marks. 
     
    BTW what the hell do you use for the fvox?....wow just unreal.
     
    Best tune I've heard on here in a long long time!!!
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/06 06:34:24 (permalink)
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    Yes, this is absolutely beautiful.  Listened on headphones and it is striking how perfectly formed it is in every way: song construction, melody, harmony, mix, everything.  Masterful.


    i was thinking this but you summed it up perfectly. anyone from James Horner to Arcana to Enya to Cradle of Filth would love to write this.




    Thanks Mark! I've never deliberately tried to do "Celtic", but this one came almost fully formed in my head. In fact, I was in bed and it popped into my head and had to capture the idea on my phone, lol...
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/06 14:16:01 (permalink)
    Very beautiful. I can see you have Komplete. Has it been used here?

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/06 15:17:05 (permalink)
    Just as I suspected...  another perfectly executed piece, from composition to mix and everything between.  If I didn't know better I would think this was commercially released.    I also really liked the sense of space - big, but not overwhelming.   Just right.

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/06 16:14:42 (permalink)
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    Dan - this is just gorgeous man - your talent is just inspiring. This really makes my brain feel good. Your playing is so nice and the mix on this is perfect.
     
    You and Stringjammer should collaborate on a tune - that would be something to hear.




    Thanks Mark! I'm glad it makes you feel good!
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/06 16:15:47 (permalink)
    Big, sweeping, playful and well-designed stuff here, Dan.
     
    Loved the roll into the drum part at 3:00 or so, and the strings hitting on the beat part..
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/07 08:34:30 (permalink)
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    You are really good. The song was great again. The melodies were uplifting and played well.



    Thank you Antti!
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/07 14:37:28 (permalink)
    No crits here Dan. Except maybe the ending dragged on for about 10 seconds too long but that's just personal taste.
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/07 18:38:29 (permalink)
    Wow, this could have come from "The Lord Of The Rings".  The change at the two minute mark was a pleasant surprise.  Keep it up, Dan.  I wish that I could help you, but you are a master.  Word.

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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/08 09:11:14 (permalink)
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    Dan,
    Another stellar performance! Your mix, changes and arrangements are like a giant field that keeps blooming continuously, getting more colorful each time!
    Great dynamics, melody anf feel!
    Awesome!
     
    Mark




    Thanks Mark! I think I've finally learned how to properly level a mix to keep headroom for dynamics. Last few songs have been much better in the end. First, you learn how compression works and start squishing everything, lol.
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/08 19:56:01 (permalink)
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    Breathtaking Dan. These are virtual instruments? I'm just curious as it is so beautiful. You should be scoring shows/movies.




    On this one, yes, these are all virtual instruments. Mostly EastWest Symphonic Orchestra and Hollywood Orchestra. Vocals are Blue from Realitone and Jenifer from 8Dio. Tin whistle is from Ilya Efimov. Drum kit is from BFD3. And, finally, the solo violin is from Chris Hein. There are a few other odds and ends in there as well, but I can't remember them all at the moment, lol.
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/08 20:00:06 (permalink)
    Yeah, I liked this track a lot. Really, really nice. Builds very smoothly and naturally, and I thought the various transitions -- as the piece widened out and got more complex -- were exquisitely put together. I got a chill when the female voice drifted in around the 1:25 mark. Gorgeous. Strong melodies and counter-melodies, and the orchestral vibe at the end was great. 
     
    Also, the mix sounded really polished on my monitors, smooth with a nice overall gloss to it. 
     
    If I were to offer up any minor points of criticism, I thought the harp at the beginning sounded a bit too mechanical, and the string solo at the very beginning was a bit uneven in tone. But minor points, really.
     


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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/08 20:01:36 (permalink)
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    Awesome..... Dan,
     
    How long on average does it take you to finish a composition like that?  Do you also do the artwork for the tunes?
     
    Craig




    Each one I do takes me, roughly, 40-60 hours. I only have time to work on these on weekends, so it takes me longer because I have to step away from it during the week. On the other hand, because it takes me so long, I tend to hear things I don't like after being away from it for a week, which makes me a little more objective. My songs tend to go in several directions before I finally am happy with them.
     
    Mixing is another 12-24 hours. This one was actually easier to mix than most because the stuff that's hardest to get right, kick and bass, doesn't really exist in this song. I mixed all of the strings into one bus, then all of the horns into another bus. After that it was much simpler.
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/09 09:17:37 (permalink)
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    yea....your work is always so polished and well fitted. This type of music is right up my Irish alley but has to be done right to draw me in. This is a gem for sure and I've got nothing to add except high marks. 
     
    BTW what the hell do you use for the fvox?....wow just unreal.
     
    Best tune I've heard on here in a long long time!!!
     
    A+++++++++++++++




    Thanks Tom! The first solo vocal is Blue from Realitone. The duet is Blue and Jenifer from 8Dio.
     
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    Re: The Forest Queen 2016/06/09 09:35:13 (permalink)
    Easily would fit into a Corrs set. It would even sound good if you were drinking Coors. with Enya.
     
    Dan, I appreciate most of all your composer's sensibilities - you find the sweet spots in the arrangement to add and subtract the little motifs - ending up in a most pleasing whole.  And then, your mixing skills are some pretty considerable icing on the cake.
     
    Very well done and conceived! Glad to know you are a weekend warrior, there's hope for me!
     
    One small idea would be the harp at the very beginning, I listened on headphones, it has some upper frequency crispy wispy artifacts going on. Or, more likely with your mixing skills, I need new headphones.
     
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