***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread***

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/22 21:13:12 (permalink)
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@Jose CWBRN-1824 Drums Map prevents Midi Input - status is now Fixed in next upadte


I know, I had already logged it.  Thanks though :-)

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/22 22:16:23 (permalink)
1)  Track View -> Midi input OMNI<-- change this to a NONE and in a little while it will revert to OMNI again.

2)  Some MIDI Tracks cannot be un Echoed. <-- (Is that a word?)
the Input Echo button will turn purple, but cannot be turned off.

Am I the lucky one, or has anyone else seen these?

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/22 22:26:00 (permalink)
1) Has been around for as long as I can remember.  Not sure if it's really a bug though.

2) Go to Options::Global::General Tab and uncheck "Always Echo Current MIDI Track".  However, doing so means you'll need to manually enable Input Monitoring whenever you want to hear a softsynth.


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/22 22:58:17 (permalink)
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1) Has been around for as long as I can remember.  Not sure if it's really a bug though.

2) Go to Options::Global::General Tab and uncheck "Always Echo Current MIDI Track".  However, doing so means you'll need to manually enable Input Monitoring whenever you want to hear a softsynth.


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1)     If a user sets the input for a track to none, it should remain that way until it is purposely changed by the user.  This makes it a pitn when the input is turned off, and then Sonar gets a whim and turns on OMNI for all MIDI Ports for the track that is not supposed to be receiving any MIDI data. If this is by design, Cakewalk needs to rename the "none" option to "Random annoying auto port change".
 
Combine this with having tracks in the project that will not allow input echo to be turned off.  Try recording a track, and having the Piano, Bass, Oboe, string sections and drums triggered as well.
 
Perhaps it is just this one project I am currently working on exhibiting this behavior.  This is the first MIDI project since upgrading to 8.51.
 
I sure hope this is not by design.  I will even settle for user error over this being normal!
 
I've turned off "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" with hope it helps!
 
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/22 23:37:28 (permalink)
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1) Has been around for as long as I can remember.  Not sure if it's really a bug though.

I take this back.  This seems to be working as expected (for me at least).
 
Only the selected MIDI track has "Omni" set in the Input.  Everything else is set to "None" as long as it is not the selected track.
 
I do have "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" checked though.  This avoids the need to enable Input Echo everytime I need to play a softsynth (as I said before).
 
Could you explain your workflow a little?  Maybe that could lead to the solution.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/22 23:52:05 (permalink)
Kevo,

I made a video showing the behaviour I'm seeing.

Notice that each Input has "None" checked, but is automatically enabled (set to "Omni") as soon as I click on the track.  Input Monitoring is also being automatically enabled as expected, since I have "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" checked under Options::Global::General Tab.  All other MIDI Tracks get set to "None" when not selected.  All of those are Simple Intrument tracks by the way.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/23 00:23:42 (permalink)
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1) Has been around for as long as I can remember.  Not sure if it's really a bug though.

I take this back.  This seems to be working as expected (for me at least).
 
Only the selected MIDI track has "Omni" set in the Input.  Everything else is set to "None" as long as it is not the selected track.
 
I do have "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" checked though.  This avoids the need to enable Input Echo everytime I need to play a softsynth (as I said before).
 
Could you explain your workflow a little?  Maybe that could lead to the solution.
WORK FLOW? I need to have a work flow for chaos and Mayhem! heh heh
 
Only the selected MIDI track has "Omni" set in the Input.  Everything else is set to "None" as long as it is not the selected track.
This shows up as "None" for my midi tracks too.  But, the tracks still were receiving midi input.
 
I had an apostrophe! well it wasn't quite an epiphany.
This project file is one I created using Sonar 6 ( I think. I've had it for a while ).
 
This project had a layered piano sound I wanted to use in a new project that uses several synths. So I did a "Save As" for the new project.
 
I have worked around the issues at the moment by assigning the midi inputs to a port and channel that will not be used.  I closed out Sonar, and restarted. When the project reloaded, input echo was off for the tracks that were stuck with input echo on.
 
Each Soft synth is in it's own folder with the midi and audio track for the synth.
 
Midi data is recored on the midi track for the synth. Input echo turned on for the current track so the synth can be heard while recording.  When recording is done for the track, input echo is turned off and the input port set to "None".  Sonar was showing "None" selected, but still receiving input from Global OMNI.  Changing the midi input for the syths to a non used port and channel took care of that problem.
 
Perhaps this is project specific.  I don't have time to mess with this now.  I'm back to recording for now and will examine this closer later.
 
Thanks!
 
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/23 00:36:26 (permalink)
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Kevo,

I made a video showing the behaviour I'm seeing.

Notice that each Input has "None" checked, but is automatically enabled (set to "Omni") as soon as I click on the track.  Input Monitoring is also being automatically enabled as expected, since I have "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" checked under Options::Global::General Tab.  All other MIDI Tracks get set to "None" when not selected.  All of those are Simple Intrument tracks by the way.
 
Thanks for the video Jose!
 
I rarely use console view.  But after watcing the vid, I checked with console view, and it works the same here as it was showing in your vid as far as changing from none to omni.  However, when I went back to trackview, there where random inputs in the midi tracks.  such as Tranzport omni, tranzport 16, all inputs chan 16.
 
Anyways, I'm hoping this is project specific. I have worked around the issues for now and am back to work.
I don't have a easy way to make a video to show the behavior.
Kind regards!
 
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/23 00:49:38 (permalink)
Kevo,

I'm thinking this is project specific too.  But it doesn't hurt to find out what's going on.

As far as making videos, it's really easy.  The software I used here is called Jing and it's free!  No CPU hit, and can be turned off at any time.  Your captured videos can be saved to your HDD or sent to a server where they are hosted for free (which is what I do).  You can record audio if you want (I choose not to), and even edit the video with Camtasia.  You're limited to 5 min captures though, unless you buy the Pro version which lets you do more stuff and capture longer videos.

Here's the website: http://www.jingproject.com/

It's a great tool to show people how to do stuff that's hard to explain.  And takes no time to use.  I literally open the program, select the capture tab, highlight the area I want to record and press the REC button.  Press Stop when I'm done and then click the upload button.  Once it finishes uploading it opens the page and even copies the video link to the clipboard.  The quality is mazing too so its a no brainer :-)  Give it a shot!

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/23 10:27:06 (permalink)
+1 for Jing.  Especially useful with audio, and as Jose said, can be brain-dead easy start to finish

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/23 11:30:01 (permalink)
Thanks!

I've downoaded it, but haven't installed it since it is something that would rarely get used.

I will *try* remember it in the future tho.  ( I had to use "try" because I have sometimers )

I was able to work around the problems and have moved beyond trying to figure out why it was happening.

I was able to complete the midi and freeze the synths.

I'd rather work on making music.

I am fairly certain this is project specific.  If it were happening to others the forum would be full of posts.

Thanks again!
Kind regards!
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/25 00:30:06 (permalink)
Please excuse the double-post but wasnt sure which 8.5.1 / 8.5.2  bug / fix  thread to put this in.

Hi all !

See here for full detaisl:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=1855659&mpage=1#1856361 - post 1 and post 8 for full details.

In short, if you have a project with SD3 in it and you are running at 64 or 32 Sample Latency,  when you stop the project and re-open SD3 - to edit or load new sounds or do anything, the Audio Engine will not engage / re-engage.  If you then close SD3 and hit Play again to play your project, the Audio Engine does engage and play back as normal.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/25 00:40:04 (permalink)
Hey Tom,

Again, I'm not able to reproduce this. 

I'm not sure what to say other than it could be a Windows 7 or driver problem.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/25 00:59:12 (permalink)
Hi Jose

Given 8.5.1  is  Win 7   " compliant " /  " ready "   perhaps this " bug "  wasnt  tested / found before its release.

Maybe someone in CW who is running Win 7  [ or another Win 7 user here ]  can confirm / test ?

Thanks,
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/25 01:02:12 (permalink)
The only one I know might be able to help you is Eratu. 

I'll let him know about this and see if he can check it out.  I'll let you know what he says.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/26 15:32:56 (permalink)
More great news Jose! ***CBRN-1878, Now/Meter---> Serious crash!***

Hello Freddie,

Thank-you for submitting your problem report, you are receiving this message because the status of your report has been changed to FIXED. With the following notes:

Thank you for your report. This issue has been fixed and will be available in the next SONAR update.

 
 
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/26 15:36:47 (permalink)
I hope they can make it to next update

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/26 16:01:35 (permalink)
Track templates do not save output assignments.

Check your mix in mono.
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/29 23:37:03 (permalink)
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I've got a little 8.5.1 bug for you guys:
Insert an instance of the Roland GrooveSynth. Enable the Tone button. No sound is produced. Move the Mid tone level rotary and the volume increases if you move it left or right.
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/29 23:51:29 (permalink)
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Another one:
Insert an instance of the Modfilter. Move the CUTOFF rotary. It does not make a smooth transition of frequencies. It only produces frequency steps and at the lowest setting it produces unprocessed sound. Plus when you set the Filter Mode to Manual, the LFO is still invoked.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 01:19:58 (permalink)
Hey Music,

Thanks for reporting these.  I have confirmed both bugs.


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 03:53:25 (permalink)
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CWBRN-2000
Another one:
Insert an instance of the Modfilter. Move the CUTOFF rotary. It does not make a smooth transition of frequencies. It only produces frequency steps and at the lowest setting it produces unprocessed sound. Plus when you set the Filter Mode to Manual, the LFO is still invoked.

 
 
the Alias Factor Bit Decimator x64 is dead also!
 
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 12:19:16 (permalink)
That one's been fixed though.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 13:01:37 (permalink)
Can anyone with a UAD card verify this.

Anytime you load a project, new instances of UAD load disabled. You have to go to Options|Global|VST Plugin, then under BitBridge Server Configuration choose a Server. You will have to repeat this process each time you start up the project. Basically the state of having chosen a Bitbridge Server is never saved.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 13:16:03 (permalink)
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That one's been fixed though.

Yes, that's right, in the next update.
Jose, have you any news about when the new update going to be release?
 
 
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 13:23:46 (permalink)
Sorry Freddie, but no I don't.

Cakewalk doesn't provide that kind of info, you know that :-)



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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 13:27:03 (permalink)
=) Yes I know,  but you are the special VIP person... at least in my eyes!
Have a nice weekend my friend!


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 13:28:26 (permalink)
Hehehe, I wished :-P

Thanks Freddie, you too have a nice weekend :-)

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 13:29:52 (permalink)
Thanks!


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 16:52:16 (permalink)
Well having seen a few Cakewalk updates come and go now there's 1 thing I've learned.
Never get the update right after it's released.  They're always buggy. Always wait a couple of months for em to iron out the kinks   

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