***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread***

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/30 18:58:40 (permalink)
CWBRN-1710: Arpeggiator plays 1/32 root key
Status: Fixed, This issue has been fixed and will be available in the next SONAR update.
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 05:15:37 (permalink)
I may have missed it, but I don't see the bug with the metronome count-in when working with video (the video files off wildly).  Cakewalk reported that this is fixed for the next version - http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1856443.  Also several of us have a stability bug with the audio metronome when working on projects with many time / sig / tempo changes.

One more general bug that I can't see - I find the basic selection tool in piano roll buggy when scrolling off the screen.  If you select some notes and drag right to include some more, the entire clip's selections are highlighted.  Also sometimes the vertical line gets buggy, and it becomes bowed out with a box round the selected notes - weird.
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 10:52:57 (permalink)

As reported by Jonny5078 - EZDrummer is back to taking forever to load on my machine too
This was patched in 7, then showed up again in 8, was patched and (as far as I can see) is back again
With all the noise the 64 bit guys have been making about Toontrack I'm sure Cakewalk & them are working a little better together as I write this, but would like to know if it's just me (and johnny5078). I wonder if the fix just keeps getting left out of the next build?

Also - 8.5 installation kills Guitar Rig 3 (again). I installed on my desktop - got to the question do I want to install Guitar Rig 3. Remembering the fiasco of installing 8 with GR3LE I clicked cancel.
The result was - it removed Guitar Rig 3 and I had to reinstall
I then put 8.5 on my laptop. This time I didn't cancel out and the result was I had to re-authorize

As I have done some programming in my past I know it's not real difficult to add a yes/no loop. Now that the Bakers are pushing GR4 (which I have purchased independently) I'd like to be able to NOT have it clobbered when I install 9



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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 11:20:34 (permalink)
And now it seems my Dimension Pro samples have gone astray. Another program I bought and then had trampled!!!!

I love the new version, but they seem to be motivating me to NOT buy any plugins they are promoting, so I don't have them trashed on the next install



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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 13:55:36 (permalink)
@ Noiseboy,

I'm not sure about the "stability bug with the audio metronome when working on projects with many time / sig / tempo changes", but the PRV selection bug has been fix for the next update.  For more information on the bugs that have so far been officially reported as fixed, see the OP of this thread.


@ Brammer,

EZDrummer is known to load samples slowly into RAM when working on sample rates above 44.1KHz.

This is not a Sonar bug, but rather something that happens because EZ has to convert the samples while loading them into RAM.  That's what makes them load slower.

Also, your Dimension Pro problems are related to UAC (User Account Control) in Vista and Windows 7.  You can either turn UAC OFF or run Sonar as an administrator by right-clicking the Sonar icon and selecting "Run as administrator".  Alternatively, you can right-click the Sonar icon and go to "Properties".  Under the "Compatibility" Tab, put a check mark on "Run this program as an administrator" and click "OK".  This way you can keep UAC ON and run sonar in admin mode without having to right-click it everytime.  Some plugins will require Sonar to be run in admin mode, so this is not limited to Dimension Pro.


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 14:17:11 (permalink)
Must have missed the PRV bug in the OP, sorry.

Metronome bug thread here - http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1852085 - has several of us experiencing the same problems.
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 14:20:22 (permalink)
Forgot to check - worth putting the video bug in I linked in my earlier post too?  In the thread a Cakewalk rep said it is fixed in the next update.

Good work on putting all this together, btw!
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 14:32:46 (permalink)
Thanks for the help Jose

Except - I'm on XPPro(sp3) - not Visa or Win7 (yet)

And I believe my EZDrummer samples are at 24
EZDrummer loads much more quickly in 8.3.1

Sadly - the Dinpro samples are still cacked in 8.3.1

I'll be sending a note to Tec Support to see if a re-install of DimPro will fix this (or make it worse!)



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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 14:44:25 (permalink)
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Forgot to check - worth putting the video bug in I linked in my earlier post too?  In the thread a Cakewalk rep said it is fixed in the next update.

Good work on putting all this together, btw!

 
Done, and thanks :-)

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 14:47:05 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help Jose

Except - I'm on XPPro(sp3) - not Visa or Win7 (yet)

And I believe my EZDrummer samples are at 24
EZDrummer loads much more quickly in 8.3.1

Sadly - the Dinpro samples are still cacked in 8.3.1

I'll be sending a note to Tec Support to see if a re-install of DimPro will fix this (or make it worse!)

 
I see. 
 
By the way, I was refering to the sample rate, not the bit depth of the samples.
 
As far as Dimension Pro goes, I've never had a problem with it loading samples.  But it is a good idea to contact Cakewalk support so that they can help you with this issue.
 
 
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 14:58:56 (permalink)
Thanks again Jose

I've posted to Tech Support on this , and put in a feature request regarding their "crashing" existing plugin installs

I'm sure there will be a resolution soon




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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 19:06:07 (permalink)
Hey Jose,  FWIW, I have Dim Pro running fine here under windows 7 in Sonar 8.5.1 and I haven't had to turn off UAC or run Sonar as Admin.  Of course, I had to run as admin the first time to get through the registration, but I've just got the UAC stuff at defaults in Win7 and DimPro seems to work fine - of course, UAC under windows 7 is a bit more relaxed by default than Vista in that it allows you to run processes that were explicitly human-started without asking for permission.  Only when something else launches a process with system access requests does it pop up and notify.  So I don't know about how Vista behaves in this regard.

Is this a 64 bit version specific issue?

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/10/31 19:26:06 (permalink)
Blades,

I'm not sure if it's an x64 issue or not.  All I know is that even Cakewalk recommends running Sonar as an administrator if UAC is enabled.  I personally have UAC disabled because I've never had any issues when I go online on my DAW computer.  So having UAC running is not important to me.  Good to know that you can run it without issues though, for those who do want to use UAC.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/01 11:43:56 (permalink)
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Blades,

I'm not sure if it's an x64 issue or not.  All I know is that even Cakewalk recommends running Sonar as an administrator if UAC is enabled.  I personally have UAC disabled because I've never had any issues when I go online on my DAW computer.  So having UAC running is not important to me.  Good to know that you can run it without issues though, for those who do want to use UAC.

Take care!


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/01 12:00:28 (permalink)
New bug found and reported

The CHord symbols bounce to clip bug:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1861809

Create a new project and insert TTS as your synth. Add one (or many more) midi tracks.

Set the output of the midi track to TTS.

Set the channel number on the midi track to Ch 1 - This is the important step, as the bug does not happen with the channel set to 0!!

Enter chord symbols to your liking in the staff view.

Go to the track view and select the track clips

Right-click and choose bounce to clips

Open staff view and check if your chord symbols are still there. Well, they would be gone on my computer!
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/02 12:22:09 (permalink)
 Cut-Snap-BUG! CWBRN-20xx

I have problem cutting AUDIO-clip and Midi clips in SONAR 8.5.1 x64 with cut-tool? Very weird result?

Using the cut tool... doesn't line up correctly and it happens random? Doesn't matter what setting I use in “Snap-tool”/“Menu”? I can see the clips doesn't line up correctly too? I have no clue why it does this? Even if I ZOOM in--------> “enormous” the clips still doesn't line up correctly?

It happens in 96kHz 32bit and 48kHZ 32bit files and with both MIDI-clips and with AUDIO-clips. I can reproduce it in different projects but it happens random, always?
 

Example: instead of cutting 7.1.0.0 it goes---> 7.0.003 or...7.0.122 .... 6.4.283, 6.3.283


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/02 13:24:00 (permalink)
Cut-Snap-BUG! CWBRN-20XX

It isn't a bug!


Its “Snap to zero crossings” that has start working with split-tool, after I installed 8.5.1 x64bit. It has never worked before until now!



That's one example what a complete new “clean sweep” 8.5 DVD installation fix!
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/02 14:16:23 (permalink)
LOL Freddie :-D



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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/02 20:04:48 (permalink)
I have seen at least one other post of this problem, it seems to be rare but occasionally I will open a project that was created in sonar 8.5.1 and it will tell me the project file is was either created in an older version of sonar or the file is corrupt, and that I can open it in safe mode and try to recover it, this happens when I open it in 64bit version Vista x64.
I have rebooted into XP32 and the file opens and plays without any problems, as I said it seems to happen randomly.
AUC disabled signed on as administrator. also having trouble with SampleTank 2.5.3, only in 64bit version of sonar.


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/03 05:11:32 (permalink)
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LOL Freddie :-D


Yes! haha


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/04 13:16:24 (permalink)
CWBRN-2032 *Please, were is the 64bit Rapture LE? 

*Only the people that installed from the 8.5 DVD is affected!


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/09 13:44:14 (permalink)


CWBRN-1945, AudioSnap Proportional Stretch Does Not Stretch Proportionally


Fix not promised yet, but I got e-mail saying the problem report status had changed to "Submitted to Development".
The gist of this one was that Ctrl-dragging the last transient marker in a clip with all of the markers selected to achieve a proportional stretch of a whole clip does not give the same (or correct) result as slip-stretching the clip. You can't stretch it more than 5-10%, and the stretching is not proportional. I didn't try proportional stretching a smaller subset of all the markers in a clip, which may or may not be affected by this problem.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/09 13:54:35 (permalink)
Thanks for reporting this Brundlefly.

By the way, I couldn't find confirmation of the Ghosting PRV bug.  Do you know if there's a thread with this info somewhere?  Maybe I missed it.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/09 14:17:55 (permalink)
I am probably mistaken about the resolution of the selection ghosting problem. Thought I remembered that being one of the fixed issues, but wasn't sure.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/09 14:23:45 (permalink)
brundlefly


I am probably mistaken about the resolution of the selection ghosting problem. Thought I remembered that being one of the fixed issues, but wasn't sure.

 
Well, you're not alone.  I thought it was fixed too.  I probably forgot to log it in here or something.
 
I'll try doing a search later.
 
 

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/09 19:01:45 (permalink)
CWBRN-1890, External Inserts @ Recording: recorded track out of sync Status: SUBMITTED TO DEVELOPMENT

This was an old one from me but I probably forgot to add it here before.
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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/09 22:21:34 (permalink)
This is a bug from 8.3 (which is the latest I have).  I am still trying to figure out if it has been fixed in 8.5 before I actually update since it's the only real thing that is causing me productivity issues.

It involves the remote control assignments in the synth rack not saving.  See here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1868049

Maybe I'm being an idiot or hardware control of synth parametres is surprisingly unique amongst the Sonar crowd? idk?  Do most people use the synths in this manner?  Heck, even for easy 'one-time' setup of remote control of effects too!  This workaround is far superior to any of the semi-function ACT system or in-synth midi learn stuff (which only exists for relatively few synths).  It should technically only require setup once, which can be brought up pre-configed when the template is opened.

If someone who this affects could test it in their 8.5 install (see link above), I would be greatly appreciative...  If it hasn't been fixed, should another bug report be filed?  I already filed one from my 8.3 installation...  It is:

CWBRN-1645, Remote control assignments will not save


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/09 22:50:55 (permalink)
PM33AUD,

I don't get it.  Why don't you use ACT?  You only need to set it up once for each synth without having to save any projects or MIDI learn functions every time.  All you do is MIDI learn all of your MIDI controller's knobs, sliders, pans of your in ACT.  Then you enable ACT, move some parameters on the plugin's GUI and on your MIDI controller, hit ACT again and be done.  Every time you open that plugins, ACT will remember the key assignments you gave it.

But I'll try you report some time tomorrow.  Take care!


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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/10 00:01:53 (permalink)
I cannot get ACT to work well for me.  I do not get full control, or get to use all of the knobs on my BCR2000 or other controllers.  You're also stuck with some default, fixed, pre-mapped matrix to which you rely on someone else providing a preset.  Mapping them in the synth rack works without bugs (except for the save thing here) for any synth and should be a one-time deal which I don't mind one bit.  ACT is a really great idea, but if you 'hide' the process from people, it better damn well be intuitive and above all, work!  I will play with it some more; seems I'm stuck with finding a workaround anyway.

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Re:***The Sonar 8.5.1 Master Bug Thread*** 2009/11/10 12:00:40 (permalink)
Hey Phil,

If you do a forum search, you may find that someone already made a preset for Sonar.  Actually, I believe that a forum member made a program for one of the Behringer controllers (can't remember which though) that's supposed to be awesome.  But I think your best bet is to get it working with ACT cause, once it's programmed, you can map things anyway you want and it'll remember it for any project (IOW, it is a global setting).  If you're still having problems, then make a thread and I'm sure someone will pop up with a solution.


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