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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/23 10:18:02
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Jose7822
Randy,
Try highlighting the notes you want to modify and right-clicking anywhere in PRV. From the menu, choose "Scale Velocity" (I believe that's what it's called) and a dialog box will open up where you can do exactly what you described.
HTH
Nice, Jose - I've been blind to the Scale Velocity tool which is there in the Process menu, and can be accessed with the PRV right click just as you said. Decrescendo! The Cakewalk MIDI FX Velocity tool still needs work, since it doesn't have decrescendo, and if it did, then it could be used in conjunction with the good randomizer it has. I would prefer to use that plug-in's GUI for multiple velocity editing tasks, and I do use it, but it has the limitations I listed before with the sliders built on a scale that make no sense. Thanks again, Jose! Randy B.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/23 11:03:18
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No problem! Glad that helped.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/23 11:13:30
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Lot's of excellent ideas folks, but assuming the development cycle is the same as usual, wouldn't you expect that they are in the final stages of quality assurance testing. Whatever major features to be added to this upcoming release were probably decided last Spring if not earlier.
But my 2 cents:
Notation: For me, just fixing the tied tuplet and rest problems would be enough - however, I believe the code base for notation was old and a rewrite would be necessary, so here's hoping we get something which resembles Logic.
GUI - could use a refresh.
Maturation of existing features.
Simpler workflow.
Chord recognition from audio files.
MIDI chorder feature - assigning a chord to a given MIDI note value generates a specifc chord when a MIDI key is pressed. I'm a guitarist not a keyboard player ;)
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/23 12:05:45
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I just thought of something else I want.
The ability to make project and console objects larger when using high resolution monitors. I have a 27" screen but at 1980 X 1260, the transport buttons feel microscopic!
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/23 12:12:41
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Guitarpima
Someone said they wanted the metronome button to be able to be turned off and on during playback/record?
Can't you do this already?
Route the metronome through a bus and just setup some automation. or, just hit the mute/unmute?
Thanks for that suggestion. All this time, I've been stopping playback to click on the metronome during playback button.
The only problem with the mute/unmute method on the metronome bus is that it's not always available in the current view (e.g. when you're in the piano roll). Intuitively, if you're using the floating transport, clicking on the Metronome During Playback button would be the way to go, but this can't be done during playback or recording as jm24 pointed out.
What did you mean by "setup some automation"?
Automation/envelopes on the metronome bus. That's assuming that you know where you want the metronome to turn off and on ahead of time. If it's just random, you have to have a view open so you can hit the mute button on that buss. I would like it if you could turn the metronome on and off during playback or record.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 11:08:05
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Words with correct spellings please:
eg COLOUR
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 11:30:55
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Twigman
Words with correct spellings please:
eg COLOUR
:)
Our Sonar friends in the UK would point out that "colour" actually Is the correct spelling. "Color" is another one of those Americanizations of the language. Don't you feel like, more Cool typing "colour" - and "catalogue" and "theatre"--well, that last one may be from our French friends. Randy B.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 11:45:49
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rbowser
" and "theatre
Randy B.
As well as being unable to spell it correctly you Americans don't know the meaning of this word either. One does not watch a film [movie] in a theatre. One watches films in the cinema. A theatre is for live performance of plays.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 11:57:04
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Twigman
rbowser
" and "theatre
Randy B.
As well as being unable to spell it correctly you Americans don't know the meaning of this word either.
One does not watch a film [movie] in a theatre. One watches films in the cinema.
A theatre is for live performance of plays.
Twigs! I hadn't noticed before that you're in the UK! So--why don't you want "colour"---? Theatre - Cinema - Well, on a similar parallel, I know you guys go up and down in a building via a "lift," but that doesn't mean the word "elevator" is strictly Americaneze. Randy B.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 12:10:22
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Positively Charged
I just thought of something else I want.
The ability to make project and console objects larger when using high resolution monitors. I have a 27" screen but at 1980 X 1260, the transport buttons feel microscopic!
Try change the resolution of your screen to a lower dpi value, that will make everything larger. I think default is most often 96 dpi. Some accessibility setting will do this too, depending on how certain apps are coded. If using default sizing according to fonts it's a greater chance it will work making stuff larger.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 12:33:46
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Twigs! I hadn't noticed before that you're in the UK! So--why don't you want "colour"---? I DO -that is my point. Or is it another case of the 'I could care less' 'I couldn't care less' argument where Americans interpret the opposite of the words' true meaning?
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 12:40:43
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Twigman
rbowser
Twigs! I hadn't noticed before that you're in the UK! So--why don't you want "colour"---?
I DO -that is my point.
Or is it another case of the 'I could care less' 'I couldn't care less' argument where Americans interpret the opposite of the words' true meaning?
Ah! I thought you meant that you'd found "colour" used in the Sonar Help files or manual. OK then, I'm with you! American hick that I am, I vote for "Colour"--! Or--maybe I could care less - wait, that's I COuldn't care less. --- Now if I could only remember if the "telly" is the television or the telephone.---- Randy B.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 12:51:36
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rbowser
Or--maybe I could care less - wait, that's I COuldn't care less. --- Now if I could only remember if the "telly" is the television or the telephone.----
Randy B.
telly = tv = television you could always sign up for the "dick van dyke school of english and dodgy accents" :)
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 13:10:23
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 13:29:09
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rbowser
Or--maybe I could care less - wait, that's I COuldn't care less. --- Now if I could only remember if the "telly" is the television or the telephone.----
Randy B.
telly = tv = television
you could always sign up for the "dick van dyke school of english and dodgy accents" :)
Blimey! 'at's a good idear that. I'll get on the 'orn and ring the school up! Hearing actors do approximations of what we call "accents" can be amusing. I remember years ago seeing Sir Laurence in a TV production of the classic "Cat On a Hot Tin Roof"--he played Big Daddy. Wonderful performance as always, I'm a big fan. But his version of an American southern accent was so unique - I'm sure people in the south wondered where the character was supposed to be from. Randy B.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/27 13:34:19
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Why aye ar kanna fathom what thar would mak of th' accent where mi family come from like
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/28 03:38:41
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Twigman
Words with correct spellings please:
eg COLOUR
:)
Thought we sorted that one out and clad it in Alumininumininum
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/28 05:36:39
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User definable 'Insert Send' behaviour
Selecting / changing multiple outputs without having to go tracks / properties
Better asset management (even if it's just remembering that I'd set the file open dialogue to view / details)
Child
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/28 07:52:11
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Perhaps one day we can put busses into folders with tracks. It's SO bleepin' annoying having to go up and down the screen from folder to buss.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/28 10:37:45
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> even if it's just remembering that I'd set the file open dialogue to view / details)
This is a stupid windows trick. No provision in windows to set a default view for such dialogs. This is ironic because one of the reasons for windows was so all programs would have the same look and feel. This meant open/save dialogs would be called from a windows library freeing app makers from having to code these common things. What we got, after nearly 20 years, is continued stupidity.
And now with w7 what few settings were availble for remembering a window's view and postition have been removed. And windows search is essentially useless. Truly unbelievable. Bing: no date filter. Real clever that.
Don't get me started.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/28 16:34:33
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Twigman
Or is it another case of the 'I could care less' 'I couldn't care less' argument where Americans interpret the opposite of the words' true meaning?
This one bothers me to no end. "I could care less". But...what, you choose not to? However, I choose not to beat that drum. Because then, some nosy nellie will no doubt complain about my improper use of elipses...you know...for pauses. If somebody complains about that, I usually just tell them I couldn't care less. And they say, "huh?" then proceed to tell me that the proper way to say it is "I could care less." At that point, I must leave the conversation so that my brain doesn't explode inside my head.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/28 20:04:17
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> This one bothers me to no end.
No end?
A couple of mine:
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Lot of misuse these days of the words "then" and "than."
If this, thEn that
It was faster/bigger,.. thAn that little thing.
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FYI:
This is a current example of how a phrase currently means the opposite of its original meaning.
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Learning Curve (an example of math is used everyday)
Popular myth: a "steep learning curve" means difficult to learn. BZZZZZZZZZZT!
Learning Curves do not directly correlate with stairs and hills.
The "Learning curve" is plotted as a line on a graph as "comprehension/understanding/learning" (y axis) and "time" (x axis).
The difficult part of the curve (the flat part) is the time endured getting to the steep part.
The steep part of the curve is the GOOD part of the curve.
The steeper the line the more learning is occurring in a short period of time.
Hence a "steep learning curve" means EASY to learn. Much happiness, relief, and rejoicing very soon.
A "long learning curve" means lots of learning before much joy.
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An example of a phrase originating in 1800's: "You have your work cut out for you," was a good thing. It meant the person did not ALSO have to cut the cloth before sewing it together. Now the phrase is meant as a bad occurrence. As in, "Look what you have to do!"
Amazing how we all let ignorance prevail, repeatedly.
And way too often, help it find refuge and sustenance.
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Ad infinitum, Ad nausem, A men.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/29 10:38:35
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Well, while we're on points of pedantry, may I please point out that there is no proof in the pudding!
The proof is not in the pudding!
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Ta,
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/29 11:35:35
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jm24The "Learning curve" is plotted as a line on a graph as "comprehension/understanding/learning" (y axis) and "time" (x axis). I think you are are confusing the gerund "learning" (i.e. the process of acquiring knowledge) with the noun "learning" (i.e. the synonym for knowledge). A "learning curve" is a plot of knowledge vs. time. Learning, then, is the process of getting up the curve. If you gain knowledge slowly over time, your brain doesn't have to work very hard. If you have to acquire the same amount of knowledge (i.e. reach the same level on the curve) in a short time, your brain has to work very hard. It's like the relationship between work and power. Doing more work over a shorter period requires more power. So just as doing a lot of work in a short time is more difficult, so is climbing the steep part of the "learning curve". 
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/29 11:47:23
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jm24An example of a phrase originating in 1800's: "You have your work cut out for you," was a good thing. It meant the person did not ALSO have to cut the cloth before sewing it together. Not if you take it in the sense of having to keep up with all the pre-cut material piling up on your sewing table. Since cutting out patterns requires less skill and is generally faster than stiching it all together, the person doing the sewing "having his work cut out for him" meant he had to work harder.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/29 12:01:18
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_curve_effects A "steep" learning curve, in colloquial usage, usually means experiencing a large and increasing amount of effort for a constant amount of learning, i.e. approaching a natural limit. Much the reverse is the meaning of a steep slope in a learning progress curve. A learning progress curve is steep when very little effort is required, as further discussed in the main article.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/29 12:01:47
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UK friends, I'm curious to know if the populace there has adopted the horrible habit of adding an "S" to the end of "anyway," as happened here in The States some time ago now. Really grates on my nerves when I hear that. Well, anywayssssssssssssssssssssss.  Randy B.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/29 12:03:05
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>> the person doing the sewing "having his work cut out for him" meant he had to work harder.
THis is what it means now.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/29 12:12:05
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Hi Randy,
I've not heard that one (anyways) too much. It does seem that people have got hooked on the Americanism 'can I get?' instead of 'may I have?'.
Maybe the new version of Sonar will fix this?
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/29 12:18:37
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Rothchild
Hi Randy,
I've not heard that one (anyways) too much. It does seem that people have got hooked on the Americanism 'can I get?' instead of 'may I have?'.
Maybe the new version of Sonar will fix this?
Child
Hehehe--Yeah, maybe the new Sonar will fix all these tacky mutilations of the language. That'd be great! "Can I get"---that one bugs me too. People don't seem to know anymore that the only real answer to "Can I get you a drink" is "I don't know, can you?" Randy B.
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