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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/17 22:44:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2017/01/18 09:24:32
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I started this thread because I wanted to encourage forumites to follow THambrecht's example, give him and the forum props for their detective work, and I wanted Cakewalk to take better advantage of what this forum has to offer. I'm sorry I ever started it, which is why I've cut back my participation in the forum recently, and will scale it back further going forward since I apparently cannot convey what I want to say with sufficient clarity. 

I didn't have any trouble understanding what you were saying, Craig.  And I'm sure there are many more of the same opinion.  I do hope you stick around!
 
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/17 22:58:49 (permalink)
This is how you do it.  "My Splat is broken".
 
Yup...
 
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/17 23:42:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/01/23 06:40:05
I hope you do not cut back participation in the forum Craig. You are such a valuable member and knowledgeable resource. It would be a terrible loss if even one person misses some info that you share, and insight you reveal, or a problem that you solve. Or any number of other positive contributions you have to give.
 
The perpetual pessimistic crowd will always be there, somewhere, in some capacity, but I'd wager they are far outnumbered by the users who are genuinely looking for an enriched SONAR experience. Let us not be diminished by the negative Nancy's, rather let us keep SONAR moving forward with positive interaction and feedback like you shared with us in the beginning of this thread.
 
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 08:31:07 (permalink)
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People should also take note that the best way to get bugs fixed is to have a reproduce-able method for causing them that you can thoroughly explain and that works all the time. QA for more places isn't lazy, stupid, or uncaring, it is just that issues are often not something they can reproduce. Someone says "My system does X," their system does NOT do X under the same circumstances, near as they can tell, so they don't know where to go from there.
 
Sometimes software bugs are an obvious thing, lots of users report a fault, developers look at the code, and it is a very simple mistake that they can fix no problem. However often the bug is subtle, relying on the interaction of a number of pieces of code, all of which function correctly in isolation. It can be hard to nail down, unless you know just what to do to cause it, and thus what to look for.
 
If a bug is something you really need fixed it can take some persistence on your part, not in convincing QA to fix it, but in really figuring out what the bug is.




From the beating a dead horse department, this is how you really do it!




yes, i hope cakewalk QA team are paying attention!

just a sec

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 08:33:32 (permalink)
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I started this thread because I wanted to encourage forumites to follow THambrecht's example, give him and the forum props for their detective work, and I wanted Cakewalk to take better advantage of what this forum has to offer. I'm sorry I ever started it, which is why I've cut back my participation in the forum recently, and will scale it back further going forward since I apparently cannot convey what I want to say with sufficient clarity. 

I didn't have any trouble understanding what you were saying, Craig.  And I'm sure there are many more of the same opinion.  I do hope you stick around!




although i expect most users aren't expecting to have debug/troubleshooting skills like a beta tester does

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 08:52:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby hockeyjx 2017/01/18 10:54:26
WTF happened to this thread? 
 
Craig, your forum contributions are invaluable and having you participating is definitely are a competitive advantage that Cakewalk has over other DAW companies. 
 
I do have a suggestion though, which is to make a conscious decision more often to say "let's agree to disagree" and move on.  I don't think your time and efforts, which are valuable to users because of your experience and your position within Cakewalk, are well-spent in threads exchanging multiple rounds of page-long arguments back and forth.  Even worse, it seems to be causing you frustration and burn-out lately.
 
Just a suggestion :)
 
 
 
 

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 09:01:07 (permalink)
that's not the first time someone has suggested that ;-)

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 14:44:14 (permalink)
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WTF happened to this thread? 
 
Craig, your forum contributions are invaluable and having you participating is definitely are a competitive advantage that Cakewalk has over other DAW companies. 
 
I do have a suggestion though, which is to make a conscious decision more often to say "let's agree to disagree" and move on.  I don't think your time and efforts, which are valuable to users because of your experience and your position within Cakewalk, are well-spent in threads exchanging multiple rounds of page-long arguments back and forth.  Even worse, it seems to be causing you frustration and burn-out lately.
 
Just a suggestion :)
 
 
 
 


Here here. I would miss Craig's contributions but sometimes being here just does your head in and you have to get away even if only for a while.

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 20:12:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/01/18 20:50:56
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I know hostility when I see it, and my hostility meter's needle didn't move.
 
But let's get reality out of the way. Games and artist programs outsell DAWs by multiple orders of magnitude. For example Electronic Arts has 7,645 employees. Adobe had somewhere around 10,000 last time I looked. People don't seem to understand the market for DAWs is a tiny fringe of a tiny niche in a tiny market, and that alone imposes constraints. Unless people are willing to pay $2,000 - $3,000 for a DAW, these constraints will continue to exist (and not just for Cakewalk by any means). Other DAWs don't deserve to get the crap they endure on their forums.
 
I've been thinking about something else...music. There are bands that are sloppy but exciting. There are bands that play to a click track and reproduce what's on their CD. I think the people who like SONAR like that the company pushes limits and take chances. Yes, that can lead to occasional fails, but also to elements that no other DAW has. 
 
I can only say what I've said many times. It is not a company's responsibility to conform to an individual's needs. It is the individual's responsibility to find a program that conforms to their needs. With few exceptions, that will not be possible - which entails making compromises.
 
I started this thread because I wanted to encourage forumites to follow THambrecht's example, give him and the forum props for their detective work, and I wanted Cakewalk to take better advantage of what this forum has to offer. I'm sorry I ever started it, which is why I've cut back my participation in the forum recently, and will scale it back further going forward since I apparently cannot convey what I want to say with sufficient clarity. 





No, don't do that! 
 
It's useful to remember that when any kind of information is published, a small minority will complain about it, a small minority will gush over it and the vast majority will silently appreciate it and make use of it. Your real audience lies within that hump in the Bell curve and not with in the noisy-Nancys (like me) at either end. The fact is that the your posts exhibit the most favorable signal to noise ratio here and the value I have personally received from them is literally incalculable, and not just because I suck at math. Well, mostly not.
 
Your absence from this forum would seriously diminish its value. Indeed, your presence here enhances the Cakewalk and Gibson brands themselves and clearly demonstrates why companies absolutely must have a fully-fledged social media strategy in this new uber-connected world. It's incomprehensible to me that Gibson hasn't seen fit to fund you or someone like you to work here on a permanent basis.
 
To everyone else I'd suggest that if you don't understand Craig Anderton's clear, informal  and highly informative writing style, you would probably benefit greatly from a reading comprehension course.

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 20:48:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/01/23 06:43:28
I think it is clear there are some people on this forum that simply love to stir the pot.
Some im not even sure are still even using Sonar or have it loaded on their PC.
 
There are some people on this forum who have helped me (not only solve my problems) but have also given me some really good direction and ideas. This forum is only as good as the people you have in it. This forum became 10X times better when Craig started being a regular here. Its as if you were given a gift.
Just remember, If you drive away all the good users who have good knowledge, you are only hurting yourself and others that need good help.
 
With all this being said, I've felt frustrated lately with this forum. I feel like there are some who don't appreciate the time people put in to help them and then there's the negativity. Im part to blame myself as well. I control my own destiny.
The past week I've cut my post count in half. I just don't care as much anymore. There's some threads I know the answers to but simply don't feel like responding to, unless its someone I respect on these forums.
 
Its one thing to explain your problems productively and bring attention to your issues. But the complaining, negativity and selfishness I can do without and that is what will drive away good people from offering help and being a regular on this forum. Without those people who will you complain too ?
 

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 20:56:24 (permalink)
People are going to piss and moan. Sometimes it's justified, sometimes not. That's just the way it is, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.
 
I really believe relations in the Cakewalk community and sentiment towards Cakewalk would improve if the company would just communicate better to let us know where things stand. I'm talking about things like notation, the Mac version, the support overhaul, etc.
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 21:10:38 (permalink)
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...and it also shows why this forum can be very, very cool.
 
On December 10, THambrecht posted a thread "Mysterious Behavior After Splitting Audioclips."


Is his any way related with the corrupted audio thread  from November?
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3512277
If so & will be fixed is good news.
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 22:27:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/01/19 07:35:57
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I think it is clear there are some people on this forum that simply love to stir the pot.
Some im not even sure are still even using Sonar or have it loaded on their PC.
 
There are some people on this forum who have helped me (not only solve my problems) but have also given me some really good direction and ideas. This forum is only as good as the people you have in it. This forum became 10X times better when Craig started being a regular here. Its as if you were given a gift.
Just remember, If you drive away all the good users who have good knowledge, you are only hurting yourself and others that need good help.
 
With all this being said, I've felt frustrated lately with this forum. I feel like there are some who don't appreciate the time people put in to help them and then there's the negativity. Im part to blame myself as well. I control my own destiny.
The past week I've cut my post count in half. I just don't care as much anymore. There's some threads I know the answers to but simply don't feel like responding to, unless its someone I respect on these forums.
 
Its one thing to explain your problems productively and bring attention to your issues. But the complaining, negativity and selfishness I can do without and that is what will drive away good people from offering help and being a regular on this forum. Without those people who will you complain too ?
 


We'll said Chuck. Why do you think I've cut my participation down to nothing? Dealing with too many idiots pushed me to my limits. People that wouldn't dare speak like they do on this forum, directly to a man's face. So rather than upset myself, I've stayed far away from this place and am super selective in who or what I get involved with.

And the mods let it all happen. I'm not talking forum hosts, I'm talking people with power. All the time, info, and awesome knowledge people with good hearts give to this forum for the price of an internet connection....only to be abused. It's not worth the aggravation nor the time any longer.

This place actually killed my forum participation in other places too because I got such a bad taste in my mouth. It has never taken care of its own or made those that contribute feel they matter. It's always "use the ignore button" instead of taking care of blatant problems. I miss and love some of the people on here, but I've always hated how this place was run. Sad but true.

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/18 23:35:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/01/19 07:36:03
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I think it is clear there are some people on this forum that simply love to stir the pot.
Some im not even sure are still even using Sonar or have it loaded on their PC.
 
There are some people on this forum who have helped me (not only solve my problems) but have also given me some really good direction and ideas. This forum is only as good as the people you have in it. This forum became 10X times better when Craig started being a regular here. Its as if you were given a gift.
Just remember, If you drive away all the good users who have good knowledge, you are only hurting yourself and others that need good help.
 
With all this being said, I've felt frustrated lately with this forum. I feel like there are some who don't appreciate the time people put in to help them and then there's the negativity. Im part to blame myself as well. I control my own destiny.
The past week I've cut my post count in half. I just don't care as much anymore. There's some threads I know the answers to but simply don't feel like responding to, unless its someone I respect on these forums.
 
Its one thing to explain your problems productively and bring attention to your issues. But the complaining, negativity and selfishness I can do without and that is what will drive away good people from offering help and being a regular on this forum. Without those people who will you complain too ?
 


We'll said Chuck. Why do you think I've cut my participation down to nothing? Dealing with too many idiots pushed me to my limits. People that wouldn't dare speak like they do on this forum, directly to a man's face. So rather than upset myself, I've stayed far away from this place and am super selective in who or what I get involved with.

And the mods let it all happen. I'm not talking forum hosts, I'm talking people with power. All the time, info, and awesome knowledge people with good hearts give to this forum for the price of an internet connection....only to be abused. It's not worth the aggravation nor the time any longer.

This place actually killed my forum participation in other places too because I got such a bad taste in my mouth. It has never taken care of its own or made those that contribute feel they matter. It's always "use the ignore button" instead of taking care of blatant problems. I miss and love some of the people on here, but I've always hated how this place was run. Sad but true.

I agree with everything that was said here. Its very sad to hear and for me its its telling me I have failed. I am so sorry that two of some very fine members have to post this sort of thing. 
 
It should have not have happened. What this thread was all about was how to successfully get a bug fixed.  Its intent was to give those with issues a way to solve their problem. What it turned into was a bashing circus for  malcontents. They also attacked one of the most helpful and prolific members we have, Mr. Anderton. Questioning his credibility. Who questions the credibility of those attacking him? What is their agenda? It certainly can't to shed light on an issue or help with solving one.  
 
I apologize to you all for not finding a way to set things right. Because this thread was started by Craig I thought he could handle the situation. I'm sure he could if he had the time to devote to removing the noise from a very good thread. The problem is no one including me said its time to shut up and stop the nonsense. It went too far. 
 
Please let me know how you feel about threads that get under your skin. Perhaps we together can find a way to improve how we deal with this sort of thing.      

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/19 00:07:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/01/19 03:26:27
Perhaps I haven't spent enough time here, but I don't see that much negativity. This thread being an exception.
 
If people are really getting that upset over some criticism and haters, then it's probably best that they do take a break.

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/19 04:11:57 (permalink)
Being the one who is referred to in the OP, I found this thread a bit more entertaining than most, but also found some of the OP's comments as highly negative and biased. The only real thing that came to mind in response was "rumor has it that Twitter is a great vehicle for those into self-aggrandizement and (often) defamation of those who do not agree with them... definitely cuts down on the number of words to read that way." As soon as things get contentious, numerous long-winded responses ensue. What never changes in any of them is the underlying intent.
 
I did come away with the realization that "canned response" is a misnomer for this situation, since "canned behavior" is actually the shoe which fits.

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/19 04:58:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/01/19 07:36:09
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The past week I've cut my post count in half. I just don't care as much anymore. There's some threads I know the answers to but simply don't feel like responding to, unless its someone I respect on these forums.
 


I agree with everything you wrote Chuck. 
I have done the same myself lately. And I do NOT blame hosts for this. 
I don't care if a person has issues, if they are not appreciative of the help they get.
I have a longer and longer list of people I just don't bother trying to help if they come "asking" for help. 
It's a shame...

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/19 07:39:27 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2017/01/19 09:58:26
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I apologize to you all for not finding a way to set things right.     




John, there's no reason you should be apologizing man.
This is one of those threads that starts off for positive reasons but a few people drag it right down the pipe.
 
There are some people that you can not and will not ever please no matter how hard you try.

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/19 09:25:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2017/01/19 09:59:50
Hmm. 
 
I don't think anyone can really blame Craig for limiting his involvement here... there are a number of people who seem to have it in for him in a very focused, vindictive way, and that isn't much fun. They are entitled to their opinions, of course, but I am never really able to figure out what there is to gain by relentlessly targeting every post from someone who is pretty clear about his generally helpful intentions, and wilfully looking at them through the darkest possible lens. Anyway whatever it is they gain, for the rest of us it's a loss, but it's hard not to sympathize; he's obviously a very busy guy with a lot of other things to do that he probably doesn't get crapped on for. I think I wouldn't have lasted as long as he has. Hopefully he'll still pop in from time to time; I'm not half as busy (or at least I don't get half as much done, which is not the same thing necessarily) and that's all I've ever been able to do - long periods of silence punctuated by occasional waves of a bit more input. 
 
I did make a little attempt, back there, to gently nudge the thread in a more constructive, thoughtful direction, but it didn't seem to catch on. So it goes. 

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/19 11:14:19 (permalink)
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I'm sure some people will be able to put some kind of negative spin on this - it's possible to put a negative spin on just about anything



It's a self-fulfilling prophesy. Word to the wise: Don't invite negativity into your thread -- stay positive, take the high road, keep calm and carry on, etc. Also, try to appreciate the difference between criticism and negativity.
 
Yes, we are all human beings with feelings, to take a page from the Reaper forum, but no one here is beyond reproach.
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/19 17:28:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tenfoot 2017/01/21 18:07:18
I still think the whole problem of this thread is its title...
Someone has reported the problem the way it could be reproduced - GOOD.
The problem was confirmed, CW have understood it and has fixed it - GOOD.
Which negativity could be replied just on that?
 
But there was "problematic" parts:
1) for some reason that has worked throw Craig
2) "This is how you do it..."
Is that the only way? Is that the right way and other ways are wrong? Is the way should be routed throw Craig to get early confirmation the problem is solved?
There can be several opinions, people start to remember that most problem reports submitted throw official channels stay unconfirmed, that the list of fixed bugs is published only after the release, that Craig is affiliated with CW owner...
The thread was thought to be good, the topic is good, that is SUCCESS STORY. But the style in which it was presented was a call for negativity, making it a sad story...

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/21 16:37:12 (permalink)
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This is how you do it.  "My Splat is broken".
 
Yup...
 
LOL!


Sometime you can find out how things are broken on other threads... Yup... ;)

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/21 16:46:59 (permalink)
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First, being of a pragmatic bent I'm the kind of person that would prefer to get past the problem and get on with whatever I'm doing that the problem is obstructing, rather than spend much (if any) time complaining about the problem being there in the first place. Bugs happen. I want to get back to work. 



This is my situation too. Having worked with software for over 40 years I know there will be bugs. The more you push software into areas that weren't tested thoroughly, or for which others have no use case, or were not accounted for in the original product design, the more likely you will find those bugs.
 
However I am also aware that pilot error is a huge factor. Despite using SONAR for almost 17 years, I still make rookie mistakes. I don't excoriate myself for those any more than I excoriate a company for making them.
 
People need to realize human beings are flawed, imperfect, fragile, and often damaged. We're all in this together. By helping our fellow travelers we improve the world. By understanding them, we improve ourselves.


You really can't expect everyone to be happy with Splat. This thread is good! people like me... a "Crazy Uptight Artist" Type...
I get what you're saying... But I don't want to Slow down to fill out a incident report for every Splat issues.. Though it seems I do! ha! 
It's just frustrating when your in the grove and than Crash! Crash! Crash! You can't and you should now not to take what I say to seriously... lol  Peace!

Hay look,
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/21 17:42:10 (permalink)
I have a good friend who is totally a creative type artist and musician.  But he should never attempt to use a computer to make music with, though.  Long story, but many years ago he eventually bought a dedicated hard disk recorder, made peace with it, and has been happy with it ever since.  Wrote and recorded a couple CD's worth of music with that. Every once in a while he pops up and says, "maybe I need pro tools", then he goes back to making music.
 
Any computer, especially a Windows computer, requires a large investment in time and persistence in coming to terms with technology, and learning how to become at least a part time computer operator, programmer, and systems administrator.
 
Then, there is still the DAW learning curve to climb, including coming to terms with the idiosyncrasies within.
 
A DAW PC is still not just an appliance that you can turn on and off like a toaster.  But maybe someday! 

DAW: CbB; Sonar Platinum, and others ... 
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/21 17:53:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/01/23 06:48:26
Good jerb, doods. You broke The Craig... and apparently The Danny as well.
 
Ugh.
 
I'm still here though FWIW... but I'm a freaking IDIOT compared to those cats... and most of the other old schoolers who ain't hangin' so much anymore.
 
Again... excellent work.
 
n00bs... don't let the bleeding drama llama shiz scare you off. Ask your questions. We are starved for legit technique/problem solving queries (that aren't peppered with angst and insults).
 
Hopefully a sheer deluge of intelligent Q&A threads can wash away the stink of all this... just... UGH!!!
 
Ya?
 
Ya.
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/22 09:46:17 (permalink)
Ya!

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/22 09:57:44 (permalink)
Beepster
Good jerb, doods. You broke The Craig... and apparently The Danny as well.
 
Ya?
 
Ya.


Lets hope intelligence prevails 
And Ya! 

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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/22 12:03:33 (permalink)
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I feel this forum and it's members have been very instrumental in the direction, development, and maintenance of Sonar. It is without a doubt the best most useful forum I have had the pleasure to belong to. The Bakers have proven once again that they listen and act to resolve problems..  


Yes they are, and thanks to them...I hope they all get rest of seeking work arounds for X to solvings, and or buggy things fixed, or oddity called out, to make that move to the garbage bin or fire ...and get out of the box, and Live a respectful part of Life, with Living things never lost, and our respect of care taking regained over as Good, done good with, for the good to be blessed....Hopefully soon a better Earth may multiply outwards , is asking and being in that Good or better intent and doings with all living things....or standing out of the other...Bad things...with as Life held as more important than machine....But we see the good spirit in help and for nothing but to say thank you in returns.....Is still in the Human Heart to do Good for the Good to be.....And in that we still have some Human in kind in us......That shows the most Glory of Glory is still a remnant....Here!...and no one can take it from you or anyone else lessor Touch!....is it not true?...Nope, because they see not the spirit with in or without..., and thanks you all around the table...is best to say with respect!...Now where does this spirit of Good will ,and help cometh from?.....That is the mystery of the truth.

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2.  USING MAC PRO, as win 10 has damaged 2 x99 systems 8.1 is also to blame for the final burnout trying to roll back!
 
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/23 00:02:48 (permalink)
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I have a good friend who is totally a creative type artist and musician.  But he should never attempt to use a computer to make music with, though.  Long story, but many years ago he eventually bought a dedicated hard disk recorder, made peace with it, and has been happy with it ever since.  Wrote and recorded a couple CD's worth of music with that. Every once in a while he pops up and says, "maybe I need pro tools", then he goes back to making music.
 
Any computer, especially a Windows computer, requires a large investment in time and persistence in coming to terms with technology, and learning how to become at least a part time computer operator, programmer, and systems administrator.
 
Then, there is still the DAW learning curve to climb, including coming to terms with the idiosyncrasies within.
 
A DAW PC is still not just an appliance that you can turn on and off like a toaster.  But maybe someday! 


lol, yea so true! I've been setting up, building computers and using computers since it is was Tandy. 386, 486....
windows 286 - win 10pro. install drivers within DOS... Autoexe.bat and Config.sys. Cakewalk (TwelveTone)...
There is a difference between a working software package, bugs and what Sonar is turning into... When things turn them self's on by them self or stop working and crash randomly after working fine for many years and many evolutions of CakeDAW... that's a legitimate reason to be angry!
Cakewalk has the best tools and is easy to use "when it works"! But over the last few months... It's really getting bad! Frankly I think this site is an illusion with less then 10% here using Splat. Though others at times have verified the Splat issues I have... most have no clue what's going on and just want to belong and fit in... IMO... lol
 
I'm back in the studio next month still using 2016 9 and if anyone where to look over in the bug report area they will see why...  peace!

Hay look,
Somethings are not locked in stone... lol 3/18/2019
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Re: *This* Is How You Do It... 2017/01/23 00:49:15 (permalink)
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I have a good friend who is totally a creative type artist and musician.  But he should never attempt to use a computer to make music with, though.  Long story, but many years ago he eventually bought a dedicated hard disk recorder, made peace with it, and has been happy with it ever since.  Wrote and recorded a couple CD's worth of music with that. Every once in a while he pops up and says, "maybe I need pro tools", then he goes back to making music.
 
Any computer, especially a Windows computer, requires a large investment in time and persistence in coming to terms with technology, and learning how to become at least a part time computer operator, programmer, and systems administrator.
 
Then, there is still the DAW learning curve to climb, including coming to terms with the idiosyncrasies within.
 
A DAW PC is still not just an appliance that you can turn on and off like a toaster.  But maybe someday! 




Yesterday I watched a short video of Alan Holdsworth in his home studio on YouTube - at the time of shooting (2015), he was working on his first new material for many many years, and he was talking about how weird and baffling it was to use a DAW and how slowly it took him to learn it. Then he said it was cool, until he'd record some stuff and the computer would "eat it" (i.e. crash, I guess!), and he was also having difficulty coming to terms with the seemingly infinite options and opportunities to fiddle with and change stuff. This is in stark contrast to his early days with nothing more than an miked amp with a great tone, a mixing desk and tape machine. You put the part down and then you're done....no going back and endlessly editing and messing with amp sim settings and the like. 
 
After doing a little more digging, I found some comments online which suggested that he didn't really get on with the computer, and had reverted back to the mixing desk and tape machine. I guess it's all a matter of what you're used to. For me, with the exception of a bit of messing around with 4-tracks when I was younger, computers and DAW's make perfect sense and I can't imagine doing it any other way. 

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