Jim Roseberry

I agree v-vocal is piss, but no way would I pay for a domain and spend so much time and energy on this when both Antares and Melodyne trounce it by leaps and bounds

 
Agreed...
Once you've used Melodyne, there's no going back.
I sympathize with the OP... but I sure wouldn't spend that amount of time/energy/resourses on V-vocal. 

Amen to that brother!

MaestroGeek


This was back in SONAR 7 when it was first introduced.

V-Vocal first appeared in Sonar 5, if I'm not mistaken.
 
Frank

LpMike75


GLRecordings-
    I for one sympathize with you but do not have the energy or time to fight such a battle to get V-Vocal 'unbugged'.  You have to understand, if you post any negative experience you have with Sonar in this forum you will get the usual rounds of "mine works fine, it must be you"..."your grammar is horrible which makes your complaint less credible"..."stop picking on my software and go somewhere else jerk!"

    While this forum is filled with many helpful and knowledgable people, it is also filled with people who seem to take personal offense at any negative experience you may post with the Software.  The fact is most of us prefer using Sonar (which is why we are in the Sonar forums) but with any software there are bugs.  I am not of the opinion that the "free plug ins" contained within Sonar should not be any less stable than 3rd party plug ins.  Actually they should be even more stable and they are not free, they are included in the cost of the software.  As far as anyone indicating that it is only you having a problem with V-Vocal they are just blindly defending the software as explained above is par for the course here. 

    The unstableness of V-Vocal is well documented on these forums and many people have experienced it.  Sometimes the "work arounds" are successful (IE bounce clips immediately, enable in the plug in manager, spin in a circle 3 times and sacrifice a chicken...etc) and sometimes none of those things work.  Maybe some people do not have a problem with it on their system but many others do, which leads one to believe the plug in is buggy somewhere along the line that should require review and update by Cakewalk.  (I'm hoping this happens).  I dont see threads that read "OMG Sonitus Compressor crashing my system!!!! or #$%^ TTS-1 constant crashes!!" ...but there are many V-Vocal threads.  Let's hope for an update to the plug in to make it more stable without workarounds so we can all enjoy it's benefits.  I like the plug in when it doesn't crash Sonar.

-Mike

Thanks for the positive support and thoughtful post. Maybe I can get diplomacy lessons from you...

BluesMeister

MaestroGeek


This was back in SONAR 7 when it was first introduced.

V-Vocal first appeared in Sonar 5, if I'm not mistaken.
 
Frank

Is that right? I guess the problem goes further back in time than I thought.

Once you've used Melodyne, there's no going back.

Actually, I did just that. V-V is my go-to pitch corrector 95% of the time.

BluesMeister


I had problems with V-Vocal and Sonar 8.5.3, whenever I tried to create a V-Vocal clip, Sonar would crash. I contacted Tech Support and they steered me through several procedures until the issue was resolved. I will not post the procedure because I respect that it's confidential information.

Frank

That's totally ridiculous. Most companies post FAQs with answers to frequently asked questions. Its not confidential information. Its PUBLIC information. If it is confidential information, then they should close the forum.

Sad

jkleban


Not to pile on CW here but the other day I was doing some work with my son (he used to use V-VOCAL all the time)....

On the latest version (8.5.3), it starts up and just hangs requiring a restart.  I researched the cronus.dll thing and enabled it in plugin manager thinking that we could get it to work.

No go... same issue... oh well. I have confidence in CW that they are working on a fix for this since so many users appear to be having problems (even though many users have no problem).

Jim

You know what's funny about this ... I am so frustrated with the plugs that come with SonarPE 8.5.3 64 -bit and have complained extensively :), but V-Vocal is the one plug that has worked flawlessly for me. LOL!

I've used it on projects that had 8 full length vocal tracks and used it extensively on every track without bouncing or freezing and never had a single glitch or hiccup.

Funny how that works isn't it?

I had problems with V-Vocal when I first tried it on a full-length track with it falling over. When I cut the vocal into clips it worked fine. I guess its a memory problem.

As regards sound quality - if your trying to move notes by many intervals then the problems in your mouth not V-Vocal. You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear 


-=mike=-

You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear

...or a golden ear out of a tin ear. 

ok, I'll post more in full.

Quote OP

If a user gets a fix from Support they are not allowed to post it on the forum. At the same time Cakewalk does not post the ‘solution’ to the board. What they do seem to spend effort on is to remove posts that contain the solution. (I posted the ‘solution’ I got from Cakewalks support and that was ‘censored’ [link=http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2024918</a></font></font></font>]http://forum.cakewalk.com.../font></font> ).

Now quote BluesMeister

I had problems with V-Vocal and Sonar 8.5.3, whenever I tried to create a V-Vocal clip, Sonar would crash. I contacted Tech Support and they steered me through several procedures until the issue was resolved. I will not post the procedure because I respect that it's confidential information.

I see where you're coming from Keith,  I just read the last line of BluesMeisters post in context with the OP as

I guess he was being serious.

<original message deleted*>

Randy B.

*My post was ignorant.  The message from Cakewalk Support was written with such good use of English, I assumed the writer's first language was English.  I poked fun at one small grammatical error in a backwards way of agreeing that any possible technical solution for any issue, unique to one user's system or not, should be shared.  I'm sorry to see that the support person's first language is something other than English, so my comment was rude.  Only knowing one language myself, English, I admire anyone who has mastered more than one, and I would never intentionally point out errors to someone like that.

I beg everyone's pardon.

 
I hope I get in no trouble with mad people for posting:
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_VElRfTZ4k&feature=player_embedded#!
 
Things are happen like this......
 
Truth is, DAWs are just moving forward with, and for the best of everyone's abilities.

 
"Hey Guys,

I edited out correspondence from one of our Technical Support representatives. Please note that Technical Support is for registered customers of our products. We do not allow public disclosure of our help as there is numerous users on this forum and who frequent it that do not have legitimate copies.

If you have any questions about this policy feel free to send me a Private Message.

Best,


Seth Kellogg
Technical Support
Cakewalk "

I actually did send Seth from Technical Support a PM - twice - but I guess he was busy censoring the forum because I never heard back.

If you think of it in those terms, you can see where sometimes broadcasting a unique fix might just be opening a can of worms.

 
Is the size of the worms different if you or I post a suggested fix or workaround in this forum and CW doing it? Is it because one would tend to trust the fixes from CW more and therefore they should be kept confidential?
 
So can I just make up workarounds and workflows, which this board is full of, and it is ok for the user community to spend time on that? But any fixes that supposedly is blessed by CW has worm potential? Or is it maybe that CW wants to avoid being responsible and open up for the good american practice of suing.
 
I think the implied logic is flawed. As a matter of fact there is no logic here.
 
(to the lifeless language police - English is not my native tongue so I am just so damn sorry for any grammatical errors, mispellings, or whatever. I do appreciate you letting me attempting to use your private language. Please feel free to pat yourself on the back for spotting any mistakes. It is really not necessary to point them out)