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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/29 19:24:34
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PaPi
F@KKER
Mac is a religion.
I had a developer working on a multiplatform project that crashed and corrupted (he arrogantly did NO regular saves). He told me the reason "it corrupted" must be because it originated on a Windows platform.
We called tech support and when asked what activity was being performed when it crashed, he very strongly stated, "IT DID NOT CRASH, I AM ON A MAC!".
No wait, it's a cult.
F@KKER
/not intended to hijack the thread
I so totally agree with you. 
No, it's not really my exploding iphone burning in my pants, it must be some kind of alien entity... I think Apple is like Scientology. Maybe the two will merge one day.
...yes, if we consider, among other questions, that NEITHER the fact that Apple is currently just too busy dealing with childish "i-Stuff", NOR the fact that LOGIC (in its version 8...), in the words of MANY users, compared to its previous versions has proved a huge dissappointing failure (beyond blind believes...) for its bad resources handling, crashes, total lack of support.... ...ya know, religions and/or cults (often...) get people blind believers...
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/29 20:22:06
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I got your industry standard............................... in my pants!!!!!!!
come on now.......... is this argument old now or what .....
go make some music or something - on any daw platform you want
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 04:15:01
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Indeed...
Though it is a kinda interesting debate. FWIW I think a standard is a standard is a standard. I work in broadcast sound in the UK, and everyone here edits using Adobe Audition (usually v1.5, since they stupidly dropped some crucial features in 2.0). I'm sure other products would do an equally good job, but it's a standard - everyone knows where they are with it when they walk into a new place.
That said, things can very slowly change. Avid was the standard in video editing for years, but Final Cut Pro got so good in the end (at a lower price) that they now have significant market share in the pro world - I well remember when it used to be dismissed by Avidheads as purely for home hobbyists!
Sonar is already huge for musicians. If Cakewalk wanted to encroach on studio work, they'd need to target that and fix various things. Personally I think it would be interesting for them to try - as I say, it's not impossible if you build it good and cheap enough. But it would require a conscious business decision from Cakewalk to attempt it, and I guess they've decided that it isn't worth the investment at this stage.
As an interesting aside, Protools is the standard in film post production, though some people use Fairlight and a lot in TV post in particular use a DAW called Pyramix. I use Pyramix but not Protools - the people I know who are conversant in both say Pyramix blows protools out of the water. For example, as I understand it, you can't adjust clip gain in Protools without rendering, which is insane to me - it doesn't get more basic than that in post work! So therefore I'm not convinced that protools is always the best tool for the job by a long shot... but it remains the dominant standard nonetheless.
The thing that would open it all up is if somone somewhere could import / export protools own format. Open Office seriously challenged MS Office because it could read and write their files. It's been interesting to read about this in this thread - some said it was legally impossible (with regard to Digidesign), while others not. Would be nice to definitively know...
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 05:42:20
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You guys want to know the reality of this whole debate... 98% of us the users on this forum, including myself don't have the skills to mix a tune any better in Pro Tools than we could using Sonar. I guarantee if the majority of users who are caught up in this debate had access to a Pro Tools HD rig their results would be the same as having used Sonar to mix with. This discussion is tiresome as it is pointless. All DAW software from Reaper to Sonar to Pro Tools offers you enough tools to create and record great music. It’s not the DAW that makes the music it’s the skills of the musicians and the engineers. Great musicians and engineers could make magic from the most rudimentary of setups. To me the only important difference between Sonar and Pro Tools is the cost. Take the money you save on buying Digi software/hardware and put it towards good front end gear because what goes into your DAW is what matters. Not what plugs or DSP you use once it's in there. I can build a state of the art machine with an excellent sound card and throw in a DSP chip like Duende or UAD and have spent half the money it would take to get into a PTHD system. I would have more than enough horse power to record a large amount of tracks and apply lots of plugins at a low latency. When I first started recording I only had a Fostex 4 track and eventually a Fostex 8 Track hard disk recorder. With Sonar I have more than I ever dreamed I would and more than I will probably ever use. My mixing skills continue to improve not because of the updates to Sonar but because of my studying and practice of mixing. I have the tools already. I just need to learn how to use them better. I love getting the updates just as much as the next guy but in the end when I’m done playing around with a new feature or plugin I’m back to where I started: Trying to write, record and mix good music. I believe one could mix a great project only using what comes in the Sonar box. Now I understand that if you are running a professional studio you need to have Pro Tools on hand. It is the most widely used DAW and the majority of your clients will expect you to have it and use it for their projects.
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 08:56:13
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There will be (already is?) a new generation of kids for whom Pro Tools will be their father's DAW. They won't care. They will use what they use and create finished product on it. I look to what they're buzzing about. It's not Pro Tools.
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 09:13:22
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I was going to recommend a book for you too read, but having realized that's probably too old fashioned I elected to recommend a YouTube link to excerpts from the book's related TV show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmag4vL7hnQ I Hope YouTube's not too old fashioned these days... maybe you'll learn something about the nature of "New". best regards, mike for those that still read, ;-) try this: http://www.amazon.com/Sho...277/ref=reader_auth_dp
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 12:38:34
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The whole Mac Protools thing is a high minded elitist boys club as far as I can see.... Sonar 64 bit now that's a DAW!! Put a good front end on it and it blows everything else out of the water pure and simple, MIDI to the max and all the RAM you can eat. Yeeehaaa!! Yeah I know I'm a just a project studio cowboy because I'm not wearing a white coat and talking frequency ranges LOL!
Give the music back to the people that's what I say.
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 13:09:35
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I rephrase the question: Will SONAR be the new standard next year 2010? Answer: Maybe, perhaps, who knows?
Question: Does it matter? Answer: No, I will still use it. Regards Freddie
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 14:42:05
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I do not want to sound flip, bit if the question is "Why is Sonar not the Industry Standard?" The answer is "Because Pro Tools is the industry standard".
This does not mean Pro Tools is better than Sonar. It merely means that in the industry, Pro Tools is entrenched. I have been using Cakewalk since the DOS days and I am a huge fan. I plan to upgrade from Sonar 6P to 8P this week. This is fine for projects that I produce in my studio. But whenever I want to work with other studios, I have to convert my Sonar files to Pro Tools because that is what the professional studios use.
(By the way, Sonar has an export feature that is intended to export Sonar audio files in a format that Pro Tools reads (OMF Export). Did you know that Pro Tools M-Audio version does not read these files? You have to export individual wave files.)
I do not disagree with this... If I was doing this full time, I would be using Pro Tools. Again, not because it is better or worse, but because that is what all of the other studios use. It is easier to swap files, find engineers, technicians who are trained on Pro Tools, etc. Hell, colleges offer audio engineering courses using Pro Tools. That's what makes it a standard.
There is no economic incentive for a studio to switch to Sonar. There is an economic incentive for them to stick with Pro Tools.
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 16:16:30
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piano39
There is no economic incentive for a studio to switch to Sonar. There is an economic incentive for them to stick with Pro Tools.
That's true enough, but I do think the experience of Avid and Final Cut Pro is pertinent. It shows that at some point a product can begin to encroach on something which has almost total market dominance. Avid were perceived by many to be arrogant and complacent. Ooooh, look who owns Digidesign... Thinking outside the box, perhaps an interesting way forward here is through individual producers, who may make arrangements with particular studios to work with (say) Sonar cos that's what they prefer. If the clients demand it, studios will change to be competative. In my own sphere, a facility lost a lot of work through me cos I don't work with Protools, and the work went to one with Pyramix (and subsequently the video changed facilities houese too, connected with the deal). Multiply that dynamic up, and that's how the industry changes. The question therefore becomes... do top studio producers prefer Sonar? If not, why not? And are Cakewalk interested in courting them and listening to their feedback?
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 16:40:48
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piano39
I do not want to sound flip, bit if the question is "Why is Sonar not the Industry Standard?" The answer is "Because Pro Tools is the industry standard".
This does not mean Pro Tools is better than Sonar. It merely means that in the industry, Pro Tools is entrenched. I have been using Cakewalk since the DOS days and I am a huge fan. I plan to upgrade from Sonar 6P to 8P this week. This is fine for projects that I produce in my studio. But whenever I want to work with other studios, I have to convert my Sonar files to Pro Tools because that is what the professional studios use.
(By the way, Sonar has an export feature that is intended to export Sonar audio files in a format that Pro Tools reads (OMF Export). Did you know that Pro Tools M-Audio version does not read these files? You have to export individual wave files.)
I do not disagree with this... If I was doing this full time, I would be using Pro Tools. Again, not because it is better or worse, but because that is what all of the other studios use. It is easier to swap files, find engineers, technicians who are trained on Pro Tools, etc. Hell, colleges offer audio engineering courses using Pro Tools. That's what makes it a standard.
There is no economic incentive for a studio to switch to Sonar. There is an economic incentive for them to stick with Pro Tools.
Define "industry." If by that you mean recording studios and engineers, then yes, of course, PT is the de facto standard. If, instead, you're considering professional composers, producers, singers, musicians in general, then PT doesn't score too high among us, mainly because the user interface of Sonar, Cubase and Logic is so much more "musician friendly" than PT.
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/30 22:52:43
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Cakewalk is not the so called 'industry standard' (if by that you mean amongst recording studios and engineers that cater to the needs of the core of the music industry controlled by the major music companies) because protools was in the right place at the right time and heavily promoted to that market segment. Another thing is that it was promoted into that market when macs had the jump over pc's when it came to audio, which we all know is now no longer the case. To cut a long story short protools is there by default!
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 00:05:06
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Hansenhaus
You guys want to know the reality of this whole debate...
98% of us the users on this forum, including myself don't have the skills to mix a tune any better in Pro Tools than we could using Sonar. I guarantee if the majority of users who are caught up in this debate had access to a Pro Tools HD rig their results would be the same as having used Sonar to mix with. This discussion is tiresome as it is pointless. All DAW software from Reaper to Sonar to Pro Tools offers you enough tools to create and record great music. It’s not the DAW that makes the music it’s the skills of the musicians and the engineers. Great musicians and engineers could make magic from the most rudimentary of setups.
To me the only important difference between Sonar and Pro Tools is the cost. Take the money you save on buying Digi software/hardware and put it towards good hardware because what goes into your DAW is what matters. Not what plugs or DSP you use once it's in there. I can build a state of the art machine with an excellent sound card and throw in a DSP chip like Duende or UAD and have spent half the money it would take to get into a PTHD system. I would have more than enough horse power to record a large amount of tracks and apply lots of plugins at a low latency.
When I first started recording I only had a Fostex 4 track and eventually a Fostex 8 Track hard disk recorder. With Sonar I have more than I ever dreamed I would and more than I will probably ever use. My mixing skills continue to improve not because of the updates to Sonar but because of my studying and practice of mixing. I have the tools already. I just need to learn how to use them better. I love getting the updates just as much as the next guy but in the end when I’m done playing around with a new feature or plugin I’m back to where I started: Trying to write, record and mix good music.
I believe one could mix a great project only using what comes in the Sonar box.
Now I understand that if you are running a professional studio you need to have Pro Tools on hand. It is the most widely used DAW and the majority of your clients will expect you to have it and use it for their projects.
Well said..... and more polite than the way I put it ...... now lets move on from this subject ......... FOREVER!!!
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 00:28:11
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Why should we move on from this or any other subject that has such obviously healthy debate and relevance...are we to be silenced by the voice of one? Is this a forum or have I dropped in on another boys club!
Contrary to the prior post about Hansenhaus's comments I
disagree...Sonar has several strong points over other applications an that is precisely why it is so relevant to so many on this forum, most significantly true 64 bit and extensive MIDI capabilities.
The only time I'll be willing to move on from a subject is when no one longer wishes to discuss it and that's certainly not the case here!
Why should the majority be silenced by one who has discussed this before and has decided they are tired of the subject, if you've had enough of a subject don't post but dont dictate to others!
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 00:35:40
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Audiomax
Why should we move on from this or any other subject that has such obviously healthy debate and relevance...are we to be silenced by the voice of one? Is this a forum or have I dropped in on another boys club!
Contrary to the prior post about Hansenhaus's comments I
disagree...Sonar has several strong points over other applications an that is precisely why it is so relevant to so many on this forum, most significantly true 64 bit and extensive MIDI capabilities.
The only time I'll be willing to move on from a subject is when no one longer wishes to discuss it and that's certainly not the case here!
Why should the majority be silenced by one who has discussed this before and has decided they are tired of the subject, if you've had enough of a subject don't post but dont dictate to others!
1. Because my mom said so ....... 2. I am kind of a big deal 3. it will never get resolved so that everyone agree's 4. as stated ... its very true -- doesn't matter what platform you use... you can get good or bad mixes depending on your experience and skills.. with eq and mixing -- and that's really the bottom line 5. Pro-tools is big and the standard like it or not .....and if they ever go "under" like the major banks -- they will prob get a govt bail out because ......they are too big to fail 6. again....cuz I said so and this is old why do you get to have your opinion and I don't get to have mine?
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 01:16:37
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Its not your opinion I take issue with here its your attempt to persuade others to not give theirs. I'm all for people having something to add that's what forums are for, but as you indicated you no longer wish contribute to this thread..so don't.
In addition I will restate that this is a relevant ongoing debate not only due to the evolving nature of both products but because of new people coming into the recording scene who want the information, and they have every right to get up date and relevant information if they want it.
In reply to your statements previously
1. Because my mom said so .......
so your a mommy's boy, so what?
2. I am kind of a big deal.....
not to me your not!
3. it will never get resolved so that everyone agree's
it's not meant to it's a forum of differing opinions in an ongoing discussion.
4. as stated ... its very true -- doesn't matter what platform you use... you can get good or bad mixes depending on your experience and skills.. with eq and mixing -- and that's really the bottom line
......... true, but why you're mentioning this when you indicated you'd had enough of this subject is a mystery.
5. Pro-tools is big and the standard like it or not .....and if they ever go "under" like the major banks -- they will prob get a govt bail out because ......they are too big to fail
....see point 4
6. again....cuz I said so and this is old
....get over yourself you're not that important...really I can assure you're not.
Audiomax LOL!
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 01:29:15
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Audiomax
Its not your opinion I take issue with here its your attempt to persuade others to not give theirs. I'm all for people having something to add that's what forums are for, but as you indicated you no longer wish contribute to this thread..so don't.
In addition I will restate that this is a relevant ongoing debate not only due to the evolving nature of both products but because of new people coming into the recording scene who want the information, and they have every right to get up date and relevant information if they want it.
In reply to your statements previously
1. Because my mom said so .......
so your a mommy's boy, so what?
2. I am kind of a big deal.....
not to me your not!
3. it will never get resolved so that everyone agree's
it's not meant to it's a forum of differing opinions in an ongoing discussion.
4. as stated ... its very true -- doesn't matter what platform you use... you can get good or bad mixes depending on your experience and skills.. with eq and mixing -- and that's really the bottom line
......... true, but why you're mentioning this when you indicated you'd had enough of this subject is a mystery.
5. Pro-tools is big and the standard like it or not .....and if they ever go "under" like the major banks -- they will prob get a govt bail out because ......they are too big to fail
....see point 4
6. again....cuz I said so and this is old
....get over yourself you're not that important...really I can assure you're not.
Audiomax LOL!
I am very important! It says so right on my birth certificate... "Very Importanat" Also -" I am kind of a big deal" .... hate to break that to you -- but it's a factoid I am rubber and you are glue .. whatever I say bounces off of me....... and sticks to you oh .... and this topic/debate -- is still old nar neer nar neer neeew boo boo stick your head in doo doo Score! I easliy won this debate! <<< jumping up and down with hands above head and rocky theme playing in the background (gunna fly now... high... hiiiiigh)
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 01:37:57
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A very bright Sonar user named Bitflipper once said, "OK, who left the coffee house door open?"
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 01:45:39
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rstollen
A very bright Sonar user named Bitflipper once said, "OK, who left the coffee house door open?"
no one - we all can post anywhere we want...... I am just messin around ... as if you can't tell ... trust me I get pretty serious when I need to be -- music is what I do for a living - I am music teacher -- not that it means anything -- just saying I can get very serious at times where did you get that back ground on your monitors? -- they look pretty good --
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2009/08/31 01:48:20
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I was asked that by another member, and I can't remember where it came from. But I'd be happy to send it to you via PM.
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 01:52:12
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rstollen
I was asked that by another member, and I can't remember where it came from. But I'd be happy to send it to you via PM.
That would be great! Thanks!! Send away! Paul
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2009/08/31 01:58:24
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Done - Whenever I try to send an attachment in this forum, there is always an error, but then it seems like it works. So let me know if you don't receive it.
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 02:03:55
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Who left the coffee house door open?...you mean who left the cap of the childproof pill bottle!
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Mooch4056
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 02:18:20
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rstollen
Done - Whenever I try to send an attachment in this forum, there is always an error, but then it seems like it works. So let me know if you don't receive it.
Got it! Thanks again ... and it looks GOOD! Paul!
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rstollen
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 02:21:19
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MemphisJo
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 02:49:10
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I can't believe that folks get suckered into conversations like this. Who gives a ****...? make music, if you make it big you won't have to worry! if you make it REAL big you can do what you want...build your own analog studio with a fully restored vintage Neve desk or get real creative and use an old Tascam 4 track. OH crap... I got suckered in too!
post edited by MemphisJo - 2009/08/31 02:50:17
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Audiomax
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 02:56:34
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I'll say it again.....just for the control freaks this time!!
"Why should the majority be silenced by one who has discussed this before and has decided they are tired of the subject, if you've had enough of a subject don't post but dont dictate to others!"
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MemphisJo
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 03:01:06
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Is that a quote from Marx??
Jesus man, relax
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Nick P
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 03:07:17
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Did anyone ever refine the question to "industry standard what". Audio recorder. Audio editor. Midi recorder. Midi editor. Electronica production environment. The list goes on. It's insane. So naturally it gets 4 pages worth of replies. Welcome to the Sonar forums. Oh, and BTW MM, although I realize it's boilerplate in your sig/profile, I would appreciate you removing the "best regards" when you respond directly to me, since obviously you have anything but best regards for me. Thanks in advance 
post edited by Nick P - 2009/08/31 03:09:10
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Audiomax
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Re:WHY IS SONAR NOT THE INDUSTRY STANDARD???
2009/08/31 03:40:49
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Hey Memphis Jo, believe me I'm totally relaxed...your not sounding too chilled though. Marx! Jesus! at least the mans well read LOL! Neeeext!
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