Trev Wilkins


Hello noiseboy. It depends on what it's going to be used for. I usually send wav's or AIFF's.

Interesting, thanks Trev. Sounds like working with wavs / aiffs is pretty common and happily accepted, so this would make Cakewalk's job easier in enticing other studios to migrate.

mike_mccue

Nick P


Did anyone ever refine the question to "industry standard what". Audio recorder. Audio editor. Midi recorder. Midi editor. Electronica production environment. The list goes on. It's insane. So naturally it gets 4 pages worth of replies. Welcome to the Sonar forums.

Oh, and BTW MM, although I realize it's boilerplate in your sig/profile, I would appreciate you removing the "best regards" when you respond directly to me, since obviously you have anything but best regards for me. Thanks in advance

Hi Nick,

Did you get to the end of the book yet? It's not so hard to learn that the musical arts are lagging approximately 50 years behind the visual arts in the pursuit of "New"... and this book illustrates the journey as experienced in the visual arts.

It may leave you to draw the conclusion that "New" music will end up in the same cesspool that post modern visual art has found itself wallowing in.

Luckily for all art the market and its use of culture functions as a meritocracy. That's why there was a craftsmanship revival in the visual arts starting in the early 80's... and why lately there has been a resurgence of interest in acoustic music performed on acoustic instruments (which even alienates me a bit because I'm an electric pop rocker type) where paying audiences that simply want to listen to music pay to listen to music.

It's a great book. I hope that you take the time to read it. The TV series is very well done as well.

best regards,
mike

I had a conversation with a friend of mine today who has a production team and they are using Logic and Protools. I was talking to him about finding and studio to Master a project for me. He stated if you mix correctly you don't need to Master. He asked me what I was using, I told him Sonar Producer 8 and he said man you have to get Logic or Protools on a Mac a PC cannot compare. He said a PC can't compete, he said the samples that Logic has it in will remove the need for any instrument. I told him I have been a Cakewalk person for years and I like it, he said the the Industry Standard is Protools and know other DAW can compare. He said if you take a project done in Sonar to an agent he is not going to even want to hear it because it is not Protools. Depsite feeling small because everything I came back with to defend Sonar was shot down by what is considered Industry Standard. How come we don't have more industry studios using Sonar? The bigger question is how can we change this, I have read several forums on the difference of Logic vs Sonar and there will always be a debate, but the fact of the matter is Protools and Logic is what the Industry is using unless I am wrong. How can we put Sonar on the Industry map?

Never heard of anyone using Sonar for serious soundtrack work but I've heard of Logic and Nuendo being used! I think the sound track to Superman was done in Nuendo. The producer of EastWest/Soundsonline software instruments composes well known soundtrack trailers with Logic. There must be something learned from these facts. Professional composers, musicians and producers don't use Sonar because it is good but not good enough. Until more of these people use Sonar and beta test it it won't be a standard! When I look at the complaints, on this forum, and my own complaints I not surprised that Sonar wasn't used to compose the Superman soundtrack or used for any other know projects!

ronboy


Never heard of anyone using Sonar for serious soundtrack work but I've heard of Logic and Nuendo being used! I think the sound track to Superman was done in Nuendo. The producer of EastWest/Soundsonline software instruments composes well known soundtrack trailers with Logic. There must be something learned from these facts. Professional composers, musicians and producers don't use Sonar because it is good but not good enough. Until more of these people use Sonar and beta test it it won't be a standard! When I look at the complaints, on this forum, and my own complaints I not surprised that Sonar wasn't used to compose the Superman soundtrack or used for any other know projects!

ronboy


Brandon,

         can you list just some them? I'd like to know who some of these people are!

rstollen


Hey, what about Public Enemy?