Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 17:49:01 (permalink)
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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 17:50:57 (permalink)
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One thing I can comment on is your playing. That I liked very much. I am not one to seek out heavy metal but I can tell good musicianship when I hear it and Sir that was great guitar playing. Also the sound of it was superb! Great tone.  BTW if you say that the leveler contributed to the sound that is cool but I think its mostly the musician not the plugin.

Thank you for letting me hear you.
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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:08:58 (permalink)
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Have I missed something . . . shouldn't there be an ability to download a demo of ProChannel
modules to see if they are suitable for your mixing needs. ?
I've bought them all anyways, but a demo might be good to test drive for some of the folks who already have tons of other compressor plugins, and aren't convinced ProChannel ones are for them.

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:14:32 (permalink)
Hmmmm. 

My dilemma is not whether or not I think the plug is worth the purchase as I'm sure it sounds good.  My dilemma is whether or not I should continue shelling out $ for plugins that I can do without when there are still glaring bugs like the copy/paste synth automation bug that have gone unaddressed for soooooooo long. 

I honestly would feel like the joke's on me if I gave my money in support of products that are nice but not really a neccesity when there are much more pressing needs that Cakewalk seems to not be focused on at all.

Dilemmas, dilemmas....
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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:15:32 (permalink)
I would agree that a demo would be useful if CW were not fully explaining what each add on module was like. In other words, so far CW has not lied about what they are offering. I would say that in general CW has been a little shy about telling just how good these plugins are.

If that changes then bring on the demos.

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:18:11 (permalink)
Because i have the CLA's but the pc workflow is great .... i'm also considering buying all those godamm modules to show them  to my students to give sonar exposure at the SAE aka Mac'sworld !!  but the thing is that i'm covered for myself ...gate : (ssl duende, softube dynamite) channel comp :(softube all comp , duende) :reverb (tsar, xverb)limiter(Sonnox , L2 ...my eye on the excellent Fabfilter pro Q that i have at 50%)...

It would be great to make a bundle with everityhing in it ...

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:26:16 (permalink)
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Are you guyz buying it cause you really need another comp ? or because it's not expensive ? 

Be carefull to not give Cakewalk a legit approbation for the bizness plan to become like Itunes crap .....where people buiyng stuff to demo , or because it's cool and not expensive ....lowering by this way the quality level people are expecting because of the small financial impact if the product is not as good as expected/advertised ..or simply not usuable .. 

Bizness by number not quality .....witch is of course not the case here ...but might become the case ... 

We used to have great plugins with updates ....now if we want to have all plugins cakewalk make ...at the end it's like buying another version of the software .... 

A clear input from the bakers should be appreciated to know where we going .... 




Zo, I can tell you specifically why I bought it and I am trying real hard not to spend a bunch of dough right now.  It certainly has nothing to do about jumping on the band wagon.


1.  When PC first came out and there were several threads on what else would you like to see in a PC plug in; I responded with "I would certainly buy an LA2 plug if one was available."  Well, they listened to some of us requesting this, so I felt a little ablidged to then put my money were my mouth was.


2.  I don't have a descent LA2 plug in and was thinking about it being my next purchase, low an behold it comes along.  Several folks do comparisions on the LA2 and it is in almost in the league of UAD and some feel like it is better than T-Racks.  Middleman's does the UAD/  PC/ Real hardware comparision and it fairs pretty well.  I don't own UAD products and can't afford the real hardware unit, so I guess it makes sense to go this route.  


3.  If I am going to pull the trigger on someones LA2 plug, why not get a really good one for $39.50.


4.  I like the PC format and it improves my work flow.  The PC plugs are handy and so far, pretty descent.  This plug is suppose to be low latency to no latency.


No band wagon here, only common sense.  

You got my official approval !! ;) 


I hear .....all good points ;)

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:31:15 (permalink)
can we use the X1 C patched with it ? or must we be D ?

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:33:46 (permalink)
Can use C Im sure-

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:39:48 (permalink)
if not i'm calling your father .....

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:41:32 (permalink)
Zo is there some reason to stick with X1 C?  Version D is a free upgrade patch. Plus you get some neat features and some bug fixes.



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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:43:22 (permalink)
you know how i am ...in the middle of a project .....fear is on my eyes...by the way dam you guyz , just placed the order !!

in fact even if i don't use it this , it is for showing my students and to support Cakewalk ;)
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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:44:34 (permalink)
John is D really passed your stability test ?

Also what 's weird is the roll back to pre quifixe ....kinda dangerous ..

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:47:42 (permalink)
You have got to be kidding me. You spend a couple of pages ****ing and then buy it?

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:48:08 (permalink)
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Sickvision

and this is fair why????????????????? 

Because Cakewalk chooses to do so. I fink.
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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 18:51:18 (permalink)
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You have got to be kidding me. You spend a couple of pages ****ing and then buy it?

yep , human complexity at its best !!


for real the best way to really have an opinion on it is to demo it ...and it will serve my cours ;)


But i really don't feel like i was dissing this plug ....just asking legit question about this new Cake bizness ...

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:04:42 (permalink)
The one thing that is bothering me is that when you use those modules , it can be for exemple for this first ou last if i use fx bin in conjonction ...for exemple i cannnot make a fx bin - modul -fx chain .... that is defintly my next request on par with PC IN/OUT gain

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:07:31 (permalink)
Zo


John is D really passed your stability test ?

Also what 's weird is the roll back to pre quifixe ....kinda dangerous ..


For me I see no real difference in stability except that it does feel a little more solid with D. C was very stable for me. I would say that D is just as stable and perhaps more so. Its hard to say a stable product is more stable when both are stable. I have nothing to complain about with either.

As to the rollback issue, I wish CW had come up with a better way to patch it. I didn't have any trouble myself in doing the patching and I did it on the 32 bit version and the 64 bit version. However I do know that those that didn't read how to do it got screwed. Or more accurately screwed themselves.

Even then it can be fixed if you do something wrong.

Over all if you follow the instructions to the letter you wont run into any trouble. 

I highly recommend the D patch.

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:13:20 (permalink)
ok doing it now so .... thks John !  i don't want it better but at least as good !

one more thing ....any softube user here ?

Do we have to unistall old version of plugin to insttall the last one ?


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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:19:09 (permalink)

Do we have to unistall old version of plugin to insttall the last one ?
Zo, that was a thought provoker for me when I read it just now. You must have read the instructions already. If you mean the Softube modules from Softube as an extra buy than I am not sure. If you have them I don't know how to advise you. Hopefully, someone  will know.

Edit to add:

It occurs to me that the Softube Big Knob that came with Expanded is also updated with the D patch. That may be why CW requires it to be removed before installation. That may not apply to the other Softube addons. Then again you can always uninstall them as well and reinstall after.

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:19:17 (permalink)
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ok doing it now so .... thks John !  i don't want it better but at least as good !

one more thing ....any softube user here ?

Do we have to unistall old version of plugin to insttall the last one ?


Just right click on the modules & check the ver numbers after the update. I seem to recall that i needed a reinstall of some PC module to get it up to date.

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:24:50 (permalink)
I buckled & got the 2A as well. I'm thinking of using it mostly as an added THD generater/gain knob before hitting my other hardware. FYI for those that don't read,  this thing defaults into "Fast opto" mode,  right click select "classic" for the different release curve.

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:26:37 (permalink)
no in fact i was talking about regaular softube plugins .....to have the new PC softube modules , i have to update my regular one with the new installer .... my question was in fact for the regular (that includes PC moduls) softube ....

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:43:56 (permalink)
@Zo: I didn't update the Softube bundle, just deleted the Saturation Knob as instructed. All works as it should here in X1D.

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 19:44:44 (permalink)
no in fact i was talking about regaular softube plugins
Zo, did you see the edit I did to my post above? I hope that helps.

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 21:05:56 (permalink)
are you suggesting i sell my la-2's and use plugins ? cause there better !!
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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 21:13:02 (permalink)
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 FYI for those that don't read,  this thing defaults into "Fast opto" mode,  right click select "classic" for the different release curve. 

Thanks Eric, I didn't see that little piece of very useful info in the release notes.  Cool!

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 21:39:36 (permalink)
Ok 

X1D update : Check !! easy can't understand why some have struggled with it ..for real ...
PCL2 : Check

Softubes modules ...tomorow ...

Been playing with it : BUG ...on/off of the moduls stop working ....the L2 is the only moduls that have this issue 

Sound : well really not the same as the CLA ....

The Cla let the transient breath more , you can say so the PC2L catch more so handle the dynamics "better" ...this thing makes this suitable for glue cohesif needs (typically in mys set up vocals bus)

The thing that impresses me is the realease ....excellent ...even on heavy limiting (that how i test ..you compress the hell of it and see the pumping and have an idea of the realease ) and it's a winner ....

But the fact that Cla let transients pass might disturbe my relaease perception of it ...

So i really need a hardware owner ...when you apply in Flat mode a heavy comp 15db of gr  ...is it snappy (try on a drum and see if some hh pass and get loud ) or all controlled ?



EDIT : by the way ...in x1 d when you select a track , the number area get black ?!:; isn't it supposed to be that light blue ?

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Re:Whatcha think? 2012/03/23 21:48:06 (permalink)
Be sure you have all the updates for the PC modules you bought.

They should be ver.1.0.1

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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier 2012/03/23 21:57:30 (permalink)
loving this PC2A ! Just put it on some previous projects. I think I may re do some others as well. 

I have demo'd X1 and Pro Channel to some friends. We are all Pro Tools peeps. Two of them just ordered X1 since they can see how much more latency free PC modules have made buses, and tracks vs stacking rtas plugs or using a wrapper utility.

X1 and Pro Channel options to expand is the most attractive aspect of this DAW now imo.

I missed some discounts for other PC module specials, but found these options still worth the price of admission. I was not going to miss out on any special for this module. Good thing I signed up for notifications cuz I don't visit forums as often.

Thanks to the Bakers!

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