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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 15:45:46
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Have I missed something . . . shouldn't there be an ability to download a demo of ProChannel modules to see if they are suitable for your mixing needs. ? I've bought them all anyways, but a demo might be good to test drive for some of the folks who already have tons of other compressor plugins, and aren't convinced ProChannel ones are for them.
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 15:49:02
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Had my first chanse to play with it tonight! Works even better than I had hoped! My UAD LA2A won't get much use from now on! Not bekause it sounds worse, but bekause the PC2A is konveniently situated in the ProChannel, and even more importantly, ADDS NO LATENSY! That means I kan use it even before I'm 100% sertain I'll do no more overdubs! Three thumbs up!! P.S. Now, if the nekst Pro Channel modules out are the Pultec EQ and EMT 140 Plate reverb (and they're as good as the PC2A), I kan actually throw my UAD-1 card in the bin and not miss it..! Sven
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 15:51:18
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John T Bit of editing, that'd make a great Haiku. No Haiku expert When it comes down to cakewalk For our sickvision
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 15:52:09
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Are you guyz buying it cause you really need another comp ? or because it's not expensive ? Be carefull to not give Cakewalk a legit approbation for the bizness plan to become like Itunes crap .....where people buiyng stuff to demo , or because it's cool and not expensive ....lowering by this way the quality level people are expecting because of the small financial impact if the product is not as good as expected/advertised ..or simply not usuable .. Bizness by number not quality .....witch is of course not the case here ...but might become the case ... We used to have great plugins with updates ....now if we want to have all plugins cakewalk make ...at the end it's like buying another version of the software .... A clear input from the bakers should be appreciated to know where we going .... Zo, I can tell you specifically why I bought it and I am trying real hard not to spend a bunch of dough right now. It certainly has nothing to do about jumping on the band wagon. 1. When PC first came out and there were several threads on what else would you like to see in a PC plug in; I responded with "I would certainly buy an LA2 plug if one was available." Well, they listened to some of us requesting this, so I felt a little ablidged to then put my money were my mouth was. 2. I don't have a descent LA2 plug in and was thinking about it being my next purchase, low an behold it comes along. Several folks do comparisions on the LA2 and it is in almost in the league of UAD and some feel like it is better than T-Racks. Middleman's does the UAD/ PC/ Real hardware comparision and it fairs pretty well. I don't own UAD products and can't afford the real hardware unit, so I guess it makes sense to go this route. 3. If I am going to pull the trigger on someones LA2 plug, why not get a really good one for $39.50. 4. I like the PC format and it improves my work flow. The PC plugs are handy and so far, pretty descent. This plug is suppose to be low latency to no latency. No band wagon here, only common sense.
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bapu
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 15:53:36
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CJaysMusic It almost like the hardware one. Thing only thing different is that its not hardware :) CJ Kinda like pics of studios? Gotcha! All in fun CJ, all in fun.
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 15:54:11
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After a bit of time today I am really digging the PC2A. This, combined with the PC4K Channel and PC76 comps and the Concrete limiter give me quite an arsenal of dynamics control right at the ol' fingertips. I haven't gotten down and dirty to any degree with the PC2A yet (sick kids) but so far, I am very impressed. I have no problem with the "optional" status of the PC modules. I like the fact we can pick and choose what we need. And heck, for their prices (even the standard prices) they are all a very good deal. I only use Sonar in my studio. I have zero desire to migrate to any other DAW. Sonar does most everything I need it to do and the PC is a brilliant idea IMHO. The other thing is Sonar and all its versions (Essential, Studio, Producer) have always been tiered price/feature wise. It's really no different with X1, I don't think. I chose Producer back with Sonar 7 because I use it for my job and I wanted to have as many options and tools so I could get whatever job done I came up against. Sonar has not let me down. It was, and still is, a very good investment. Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks to the Cake-bakers for their insight, hard work and very dependable products. You make my professional life much easier. (FBB, does this get me into the Fanboi club? If so, how much are the dues?)
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 15:54:48
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Zo or because it's not expensive ? Ja
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:00:20
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(FBB, does this get me into the Fanboi club? If so, how much are the dues?) Not sure how I got in myself actually. I think it was because X1 worked from the off for me and I said so..... Dues are payable every PC module release........
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bapu
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:02:33
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Sickvision and this is fair why????????????????? Because Cakewalk chooses to do so. I fink.
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southpaw3473
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:14:42
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Sickvision FastBikerBoy (FBB, does this get me into the Fanboi club? If so, how much are the dues?) Not sure how I got in myself actually. I think it was because X1 worked from the off for me and I said so..... Dues are payable every PC module release........ basicly as he stats clearly all you need is money. talent and class, are not needed. i feel like im a demacrat at a republican convetion Man, that's cold dude. And it's a Democrat at a Republican convention. And that smarts too!
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:32:29
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Sickvision FastBikerBoy (FBB, does this get me into the Fanboi club? If so, how much are the dues?) Not sure how I got in myself actually. I think it was because X1 worked from the off for me and I said so..... Dues are payable every PC module release........ basicly as he stats clearly all you need is money. talent and class, are not needed. i feel like im a demacrat at a republican convetion C'mon he's joking. Let's not turn a ProChannel module release into a debate over socioeconomic injustice and the like. It's an effect for SONAR. It's one of those "buy it if you like it" things. We're not talking about food, water, shelter, or medicine here. Please let's keep the thread relatively on topic.
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bapu
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:33:50
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Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk ] Please let's keep the thread relatively on topic. Ok, I installed it.
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musicroom
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:35:28
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@Rimshot - I had the E-16 and really liked recording on it. Smooth operations and sound beyond its' price tag. Like you, I still can't imagine going back to tape and losing all the visual aspects of recording we have now. I could take the track limitations, but wow, it is so much easier to work on something you both hear and see! DM
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John
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:35:30
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Sickvision no since you will find that here we buy anything cake throws at us , with not even a second though. if ya want bias i would ask somewhere else,they act like the guys who make plugins are gods, or brain surgens there like little kids insulting anyone not in there little click, and enjoy showing folks the door.( just today i saw some junk on this here) there is little hope to get anyone to even say there overchargin for content. i think i should start making plugs for cakewalk seems like there able to sell anything that has cakewalk on it. and to be honest il say that this plug deal is for there best plug in yet, but thats why it was held back till now. had to sell there junk first.3 out of all of the PC plugs are just great the rest are remakes of stuff they give us in x1 so fact is where paying for every plug, as they redo them, and this is fair why????????????????? Clearly you seem unable to take the advice of the forum and realize that no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. Is it that we are not to buy what we want to buy because you think we shouldn't? Who are you to comment on what some one decides to buy? I don't care that you seem unable to afford it. That is not any of our concern. When you control our money then you may decide what we spend money on. Until then please be quiet. You are crossing the line from being just annoying to being down right objectionable. From my view you are being very rude. Get X1 Studio and be happy. Leave the rest of us alone. Stop trying to rain on the parade. I bought it yesterday and am happy with it. The OP wants to know what we think about it not whether we can afford it. You are off topic and in violation of the TOS.
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bapu
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:38:34
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musicroom but wow, it is so much easier to work on something you both hear and see! DM Now if we could just taste it!!??!!
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:39:42
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@Sickvision I'm getting the feeling you're enjoying the rant now. You are clearly in a minority. Just so you know, I'm not planning to block you, but you're not getting read. I keep on scrolling past most of your sentences at this point since you have nothing new to offer other than anger over something that is not that big of a deal in the larger pix. If you came from the tape world, you would probably just feel blessed to have what you have at your fingertips.
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 16:40:45
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bapu musicroom but wow, it is so much easier to work on something you both hear and see! DM Now if we could just taste it!!??!! I've heard some things in bad taste. Is that the same thing?????
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 16:58:18
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bapu CJaysMusic It almost like the hardware one. Thing only thing different is that its not hardware :) CJ Kinda like pics of studios? Gotcha! All in fun CJ, all in fun. Ok now thats funny.
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 17:04:19
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 17:06:49
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@the OP, Smooth. As I will never be in the position to own either UAD or the real thing it suits me fine.
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 17:16:49
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I love the sound of this plug - highly usable- I am really loving the PC modules - the sound is very very good. Lance
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 17:17:46
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it's the shizzle - buy it and lets be done with all this malarky
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 17:18:26
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Indeed, very smooooooooooooooooooth indeed.
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John
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 17:23:08
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So far I haven't had enough time to give leveler a good workout but what I did do gave me a nice smooth sound. I was impressed. I still fine the concrete limiter to be down right out standing. I was hoping for that module to come along. Its my goto limiter now. I think I may have the same view with the leveler. I do need more time with it though. So far so good. Now I would like a simple but quality reverb.
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 17:30:29
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It sounds smooth and clear here. Like it. Also put it on a stem track of vocals and acoustic gtr with the pc76 stacked underneath the pc2a with light parallel compression... Goodness is what I heard.
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 17:32:16
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John So far I haven't had enough time to give leveler a good workout but what I did do gave me a nice smooth sound. I was impressed. I still fine the concrete limiter to be down right out standing. I was hoping for that module to come along. Its my goto limiter now. I think I may have the same view with the leveler. I do need more time with it though. So far so good. Now I would like a simple but quality reverb. John, did you get chance to listen to my short demo - POST #10 OF THIS THREAD? Very nice.
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Re:Whatcha think? Thoughts on PC2A T-Type Leveling Amplifier
2012/03/23 17:32:56
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Thento the rescue... One of my close friends heard my disapointment not being able to get this one... And came to my rescue! Worked late with it last night on various tracks I MIT have selected the hardware for in a "real" session.... I too worked most of my life with tape and analog... Now digital for decades in some form... LA2A/1176LN and dbx160's have been my gotos forever! I still have a half track machine for mix/edit and a "bedroom" 8 track machine which neve get used... ;-) Now, many years since I've had such hardware I find it hard to truly remember the exact sound which does vary unit to unit... I must admit that I have not used the compared versions and as UA is the originator of the hardware, I've expected their's to be the best. B it I'm finding the PCLA2 to do the job I remember the hardware to do... Sound the same probably not... Sound good? I find it definitely does sound good to my ears and allow my familiarity with it to get the results I seek. Great job Bakers! Keni
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 17:38:05
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I agree with Lance alot... (Hey, my middle name is Lance so I couldn't resist) Rimshot
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 17:44:46
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Who's complaining? The envy producer that don't use SONAR X1 as their DAW. I'm not complaining as a SONAR X1 exp user. Life is great over here in SONAR X1 Land. A lot of great highend emulations comes exclusive with SONAR X1 Pro Channel and they all sounds state of art. Let's see what goodies I got in Pro Channel all with extremely low CPU usage. One UREi 1176 with internal sidechain. Built into every channel One SSL 4000 K Bus compressor on all Busses One SSL G-EQ and One SSL E-Q + SSL GATE/ EXP + SSL PC4k S-Type Compressor...all this give me the real sound of this + a PURE phase EQ Built into every channel + a NEW Hybrid EQ Built into every channel also a GLOSS filter that are unique and make the MIX standout Built into every channel The I get Soft Tube AMP that sounds like this Then I get a brickwall limiter that sounds like this A now I get UAD LA-2 Teletronix that sounds better then this Plus I get a nice warm highend TUBE emulation on every channel
post edited by Freddie H - 2012/03/23 17:57:26
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John
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Re:Whatcha think?
2012/03/23 17:48:24
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Steve I couldn't tell what was the leveler or not. I'm not sure even if the whole file was leveled or not. So to make a comment on it would be, for me, imprudent. One thing I can comment on is your playing. That I liked very much. I am not one to seek out heavy metal but I can tell good musicianship when I hear it and Sir that was great guitar playing. Also the sound of it was superb! Great tone. BTW if you say that the leveler contributed to the sound that is cool but I think its mostly the musician not the plugin. Thank you for letting me hear you. For me to report on this plugin with any confidence I need to use material I am very familiar with first. As I have said my first impression is that the leveler is a really nice addition to PC.
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