SteveStrummerUK


 
In all fairness, does the rubric on CJ's website actually suggest that's his studio?
 
There are a lot of 'stock' pictures on there by the look of it - is he really breaking any type of 'trading standards' regulations in the US if those photos are just being use to advertise the nature of his business, but are not actually images of the equipment he uses?
 
I agree that if the intimation is that the photos are of his studio and equipment then that's pretty sad, but if they're just there to give his new business a professional looking image then surely that's fair use?
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bashing CJ - but only when he deserves it
 

If you read UnderTow's post you'll notice he quotes where CJ states that this in fact is a picture of his studio before he invested money in his new one.

Which is the entire thrust of why it is so amusing.  Complete unabashed BS called out!

I object to the very suggestion that any bashing done by myself is ever arbitrary in any way...

CJaysMusic


You guys crack me up!   Not!!!
Ive been busy working. Got slammed. Maybe its the season for mixing and mastering. I dunno.

Those pics are of the old studio, before I went fulltime with it and invested major money in it (wifes money. I guess that my money too)

In Linden, New Jersey I believe.

...it did go all worgn, didn't it?  

For the record when CJ posted

"Those pics are of the old studio, before I went fulltime with it and invested major money in it (wifes money. I guess that my money too)"

He was referring to pictures of his old bedroom studio setup that he posted on a few of his music player sites. He has purchased some nice gear to augment that studio.




It's even less classy to misquote him while piling on.

Really... it's less classy.

Let it rest.

The truth is most hi end studios are behind a anonymous metal door and no one really wants you to know what they have in there until they see some cash or a purchase order.

CJ is learning the business, he's not hurting anyone at $30/per song, and he has helped countless numbers of people.

Let's celebrate the good!!!

best regards,
mike

 

To be clear until a call for a higher moral stance was made, polarizing emotional views into 'sides', I had no trouble with my conscience at all engaging in a bit of ribbing.  I still don't.

Perhaps because I know enough of myself that I wouldn't be writing off another human being for allowing a little frailty to rise to the fore in such a way.  And I've been guilty of 'gilding the lily' myself on numerous occasions for sure.  Perhaps I'm even exaggerating when I say 'numerous occasions'.

Being the forgiving soul I am I saw no harm being done here, certainly less harm than shooting the rear out of a newbies britches for daring to ask a question.

So forgiving I can be, but that still leaves me not being able to see how I can forget when I just know it is going to have me doubled up whenever I think on it...

A point of fact Mike, as I understood it at the time, clearly as did the poster that found the original shot, he was actually referring to the stock photo depicted earlier as used as his GS avatar and elsewhere!

So yes by all means drop it!  If you wanna make bad guys out of certain people posting here as well as dubious content, there are plenty of more deserving targets for your policing crackdown IMO.

John T


This is a bit rum, people queuing up to slag a guy off when he's not here.

I say good luck to him with his mastering business. It's a lot easier - for me - to respect someone with a bit of initiative having a serious crack at something than it is to respect people who anonymously snipe at them behind their back.

Sorry, I have absolutely no respect for this clown.  He is a jerk of epic proportions.  Perhaps some of you were not here when he publicly dumped his wife on this forum, and talked about how he took up with some skank where he worked (whose picture he then used in place of his wife's as his avatar).  It was the most disgusting thing I have ever read on a public forum not specifically designed for salacious or warped posting.  If anyone can find that post, please provide a link.  He needs to be reminded of this from time to time.
 
CJ, I've said it before and I will say it again.  You are a lowlife.
 
Poco

SteveStrummerUK


 
In all fairness, does the rubric on CJ's website actually suggest that's his studio?

Of course it does. The mere presence of the picture implies it. He has the address of his website plastered over it. I bet you he doesn't have the rack gear pictured on his site either.

There are a lot of 'stock' pictures on there by the look of it - is he really breaking any type of 'trading standards' regulations in the US if those photos are just being use to advertise the nature of his business, but are not actually images of the equipment he uses?

If a supermarket sells porc sausages in a package that has a picture of a cow on it (but doesn't actually say it is beef), how long do you think they will get away with it?

If a website selling mixing and mastering services has a picture of a studio on it, you can be sure that at least part of the potential customer base will assume that that is the studio the work will be done in. It is false advertising. It is dishonest. It is dishonest to his customers and it is dishonest to other studios that have invested money in the acoustics, monitoring and equipment. The music industry is already in bad enough shape without these kind of shady characters playing dirty games.

UnderTow

PLEASE Mods, don't flush this downstairs....

UnderTow

SteveStrummerUK



In all fairness, does the rubric on CJ's website actually suggest that's his studio?

Of course it does. The mere presence of the picture implies it. He has the address of his website plastered over it. I bet you he doesn't have the rack gear pictured on his site either.

There are a lot of 'stock' pictures on there by the look of it - is he really breaking any type of 'trading standards' regulations in the US if those photos are just being use to advertise the nature of his business, but are not actually images of the equipment he uses?

If a supermarket sells porc sausages in a package that has a picture of a cow on it (but doesn't actually say it is beef), how long do you think they will get away with it?

If a website selling mixing and mastering services has a picture of a studio on it, you can be sure that at least part of the potential customer base will assume that that is the studio the work will be done in. It is false advertising. It is dishonest. It is dishonest to his customers and it is dishonest to other studios that have invested money in the acoustics, monitoring and equipment. The music industry is already in bad enough shape without these kind of shady characters playing dirty games.

UnderTow

 
Yeah, very good points U/T.
 
And I didn't realise he'd had actually said it was his 'old' studio as Jonbouy pointed out above.
 
 
 

Jonbouy


To be clear until a call for a higher moral stance was made, polarizing emotional views into 'sides', I had no trouble with my conscience at all engaging in a bit of ribbing.  I still don't.

Perhaps because I know enough of myself that I wouldn't be writing off another human being for allowing a little frailty to rise to the fore in such a way.  And I've been guilty of 'gilding the lily' myself on numerous occasions for sure.  Perhaps I'm even exaggerating when I say 'numerous occasions'.

Being the forgiving soul I am I saw no harm being done here, certainly less harm than shooting the rear out of a newbies britches for daring to ask a question.

So forgiving I can be, but that still leaves me not being able to see how I can forget when I just know it is going to have me doubled up whenever I think on it...

A point of fact Mike, as I understood it at the time, clearly as did the poster that found the original shot, he was actually referring to the stock photo depicted earlier as used as his GS avatar and elsewhere!

So yes by all means drop it!  If you wanna make bad guys out of certain people posting here as well as dubious content, there are plenty of more deserving targets for your policing crackdown IMO.

Can you re read the thread?  I call your attention particularly to post #28... where the reference and link to the photo I img tagged is made.

I believe that this link and photo are what CJ was responding too and I believe most of the comments after CJs post are based on a misunderstanding.

best regards,
mike

Leading unsuspecting people down the wrong path is something a few have been guilty of here.  Some frequently lead people down the wrong path.  And what's worse, is those doing the misleading have garnered respect through misdirection (or bullsh**).  It's that kind of stuff that has kept me from posting here (though, most of my advice would really be about audio and engineering in general - not necessarily specific to Sonar).

SteveStrummerUK


  
  
 
 
Well then, the charge of complete bull**** is proven - guilty as charged m'lud   
   


 

Come on, enough said, let´s get the pitchforks and torches already!!!!! Anyone´s got his address???

Inspector Kemp

• A riot is an ungly thing undt one you get one started it is ddifficult to shtop one short of boolshed.
• A riot is an ungly thing... undt, I tink, that it is chust about time ve had vun.

 
OK, I admit it.
 
 
 
I've got a stock photo that's also full of bull....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
         
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
MMMMmmmmmmmmmm..... beefy
 
 
 

Actions speak louder than words.....or pictures in this case.

For $30 any haters can credit...or discredit his ability.  I suggest sending something out to him and checking out what he can do.

I for one, could care less about pictures, spelling, general attitude, IF he could deliver a deserving product.......just sayin'