Why Apple users have switched to Dell/Windows! Will DAWs be next?

Made by Dell of course :)...

I divorced Apple in 1984, for many of the same reasons given in the Dell ad. The company's arrogance put me off then and still does today. No iphones or ipods or ipads or any other icrap for me.

I've never jumped on the Apple bandwagon.  Seems I always could find a cheaper, more versatile alternative.  I'm like Bitflipper..no iphone, ipods, ipads.

My kids whine about it every once in awhile, but they have all the electronic nonsense and it all works fine and maybe better.

When digital audio was 1st coming around I was working as an audio production mixer.  We called apple products "crashintoches".  

Finally you guys came out of your hiding place glad to see I'm not left alone here on planet Mac; I thought I'm the only one out there without iToys ...

Well, personally I don't have any issues with the iToys; so far I just couldn't be bothered to spend so much money on something I don't really need. I-K apps are just what these days are asking for, but that falls also into the consumer/toy category that doesn't have to bother me.

What puts me off, though, is if a serious company like Roland comes out with a new product like the Integra and offers only an iPad app to properly control it ...

Guys we can bash apple all we want but Ipad and iPhones are what the young people want.  What put me off Apple computers is the price tag.

Our house is a mixture of Windows, Apple iStuff and Android devices. I use whatever gives me the best user experience. Depending on what the device/application is, it could be any one of the three.

I was neutral about Apple until they took Logic from me. From that day on Apple has been the evil company. 

When I bought our 2 new MacBook Pros, my wife sold her 5 years old MacBook (not pro) which needed minor repair for... $400.

The two PCs I had used during those last 5 years and which were gathering dust in the basement had to be taken to a recycling facility. Cost me gas + access to site to get rid of them.

So as far as $ is concerned...

Freddie H


Same story with LOGIC PRO. Its keep getting old and outdate and nothing new the last 7 years...

Latest version is 9, Freddie. 
It came out in 2009. 
The latest free update dates from a month or two. ;)

Rain

Freddie H


Same story with LOGIC PRO. Its keep getting old and outdate and nothing new the last 7 years...

Latest version is 9, Freddie. 
It came out in 2009. 
The latest free update dates from a month or two. ;)

Yeah Rain...It speaks for itself!

Freddie H

Rain

Freddie H


Same story with LOGIC PRO. Its keep getting old and outdate and nothing new the last 7 years...

Latest version is 9, Freddie. 
It came out in 2009. 
The latest free update dates from a month or two. ;)

Yeah Rain...It speaks for itself!

Oh yeah, it came out in 2009.
It already had the original "skylight" interface since the previous version.
Swipe comping.
Decent notation.
Buss which can be routed to other busses or anywhere.
Audio editor.
Input channels.
Varispeed.
Beat mapping that works.
Screensets (forever).

And a bunch of other awesome features which will get you all excited when they're implemented in Sonar X7 or X8. ;)

So.....not that any of you might have ever noticed, but I don't usually get into these **** measuring contests.

Is it not apparent that all of the effort people put into bashing what they don't use or have is an effort to feel better or validated about what they do have?

I'm actually pretty qualified to speak on this topic-- I'm a software developer, have been a sysadmin, DBA, etc. I'm currently an Associate CIO.

Apple products are expensive. However, the current generation of Mac OS, OSX, is built on the BSD kernel and is incredibly stable. UNIX systems have many tools built into them that Windows/DOS based systems don't natively have. Thus, they actually make great development platforms for PHP, Ruby, Java, Groovy, Python and others. In addition, one thing that Apple does that the others don't is innovate. Similarly to what I mention in the next paragraph, they grow via acquisition too. But, they on occasion do introduce original ideas.

For traditional business (meaning, word-processing, spreadsheets, managing email and calendars, etc.) systems, the MS-based solution is the clear winner. The greatest reason however is because of software. MS-Office is by far the most ubiquitous solution, and it is for most purposes a great product. Windows is a fine product now, but it wasn't always that way. Neither was MacOS. The only issue with MS is that they really only try to copy the innovations of others and mass-produce it. They grow largely through acquisition and don't typically release products into the marketplace that are original. (Challenge: try to name a MS product that is truly original to them. It's harder than you think.)

Last, when it's your money on the line, Linux and UNIX systems are more secure, generally faster and have a much more broad foundation of stability and cluster-ability for production internet-based applications. MS indeed has a presence, but it's not because their systems are great. It's because the labor needed to run them is much less expensive. They have visual tools that are easier for many folks to adopt. For most of the systems that we run in production we don't even bother to install a GUI-- it's just unnecessary bloat.

So, they all have their purpose and their niches. There isn't a better. One doesn't suck or any of that BS. They're all tools that have a purpose where they fit best. What one does exceptionally well, the other doesn't and vice-versa.

In closing, why can't people get over the "mine is better than yours" BS? Yours and hers/his are just different.

+1. I hate their business model. 

Though I certainly don't consider them innovators, Apple do indeed set the trends. Whether people like or hate Apple, the truth is that sooner or later, they'll end up using a product or an OS that is inspired by the success of Apple.

Windows 8, apps and the app store? Besides being uglier - a mandatory feature in Microsoft products - I don't see what exactly MS brought to the table here. 

You know, the only TV show I watch is South Park.  50% of the publicity during that show is about Microsoft Tablets and Windows 8, and how cool they are. That's not mentioning the X-Box. 

So if there one company which is all about hype these days (not actually because they are hype but because they're trying so hard to look cool), Microsoft gets the award.

People want exactly what Apple is selling. Just not from Apple... 

Rain


Though I certainly don't consider them innovators, Apple do indeed set the trends. Whether people like or hate Apple, the truth is that sooner or later, they'll end up using a product or an OS that is inspired by the success of Apple.

Windows 8, apps and the app store? Besides being uglier - a mandatory feature in Microsoft products - I don't see what exactly MS brought to the table here. 

You know, the only TV show I watch is South Park.  50% of the publicity during that show is about Microsoft Tablets and Windows 8, and how cool they are. That's not mentioning the X-Box. 

So if there one company which is all about hype these days (not actually because they are hype but because they're trying so hard to look cool), Microsoft gets the award.

People want exactly what Apple is selling. Just not from Apple... 

Rain now I know why I really like reading your posts. Not only are they well written but you always have something original in them. That is not an easy thing to do.