John


I would love the ability to print out keybindings. I try to keep the standard keybindings but I have made some modifications. It could be much easier to find a keybinding then it is now. 

There is a list of all of the keybinable functions somewhere on the internet, a fellow forum member made one last year I think, I'll see if I can locate it

Tom


Found it http://anythingpeaceful.org/sonar/keybindings/all.html

InstrEd


It is in sticky section. Here is the direct link.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1649240

Ed

Thats a different one than what I was thinking, I found what I was talking about, it is a list of all of the things that can be bound to keys, Mabians list is the default keybindings

Tom

Watch out for the Romulans!
 
They are deceptive and distracting.
 
It is best to ignore them.
 
Otherwise they will hijack a thread using their ignorance and obvious contrariness.
 
Best not acknowledge their existence. With some luck they will move to Chad, or Libya,... Got enough of 'em in Idaho already.
 
Romulans!!!!  They are allies of the V.  Beware!!!

jm24

They are deceptive and distracting....
 

Deceptive and distracting. What a cool phrase. It only gets 50 Google hits. Congratulations!

kevvvvv


I've read most of this thread, and offer 100% thumbs up to Eratu

....

I hope Cake are listening to you. I think they are.

Thanks, kevvvvv! I hope so too. If we can pool our voices together, I think we have a better chance to get these types of features implemented soon.

...wicked


I keep coming back to this thread since I've posted in it before, and now am horribly confused here. Maybe it's the forum quoting awkwardness... but I don't even know what we're talking about anymore.  1 string guitars?

ROTFLMAO!!

The general difficulty in selecting envelopes or nodes... regardless of what selection tool you choose.

The fact that envelope tool doesn't seem to make selecting envelopes or nodes any easier but makes it harder to do everything else.

The buggy/workaround aspects of clip envelopes when working with layers.

The whole envelope management *thing*... it doesn't exist ;-).

Envelope copy and paste functionality needs to be streamlined.

Am I forgetting anything?

:-)

just keeping this thread alive so it gets noticed - and maybe even wins a formal Cake statement saying where they believe the product is going - especially after the excellent 8.5x's

TO eratu
Have you sent the letter to Cakewalk already and did you refer them to this thread?  Although it took a few sidetracks here and there I think the number of people who have contributed in a rational fashion should be ample evidence of this being a priority request for development.

    I don't have Cubase but I do have a sore fist from hitting my desk in frustration after spending 2 hours last night fine tuning one of my string tracks and discovered that somewhere along the line I did the famous miss the node and slid the whole track over about 1/32 note.  I was working in solo mode and didn't realize it until after I had finished the track and played it back with the rest of the tracks.  After I discovered what I had done I moved it back to its proper location but now all of the nodes no longer line up where they should as it occurred part way through the editing process.  The more I worked on trying to find the point where I screwed up and move all the nodes in that section the worse it got so I eventually gave up and deleted the entire envelope. So my project tonight is to try to find the patience to redo it all again and maintain the same dedication to perfection I had last night;  a tough task any time you have to totally redo what should already have been done. 

My point after all that venting again is to ensure that they are aware of this thread and the many contributions that loyal Sonar users have made to it.  I commend you again for the well laid out thread opener on the topic and the fact that you have written to Cakewalk. 

Let's just keep the thread at the top until we get someone from Cakewalk to acknowledge that they have seen it.

Lorne

Just for the sake of it, and acknowledgement that I agree with most of eratu's (and other's) beefs and workflow enhancement requests here, I will add my ...

SUPPORT ... +1000

SONARtist


Just for the sake of it, and acknowledgement that I agree with most of eratu's (and other's) beefs and workflow enhancement requests here, I will add my ...

SUPPORT ... +1000

Excellent -- we'll need your support, I'll be posting about it soon, to try to bring in as many people as possible. :)

bump +1

...wicked


Without being specific it's hard to back that argument up, and then when being specific there's going to be a lot of times where people's preferences differ.

I do think SONAR can use some workflow improvements, and even some dedicated workflow tools, but as a sole complaint it's far to vague to rally behind.

I know it's vague and verbose, and I initially intended it to be light on specific details. There have been so many detailed workflow-related threads I didn't want to get into the weeds.

However, there will be an effort to "get specific" and try to build consensus around some tangible workflow-related feature requests. Who knows if it will go anywhere, but I think it's worth trying. I'll be posting soon about it and hope you join us in the effort... specific feature request are needed and more than welcome.

I hope this is in keeping this thread but this is one of my biggest gripes.


This is a shot of a MIDI track header.


This is a shot of the Track Inspector. If the Inspector had all the widgets from the MIDI track header instead of wasted space I could do this.

Why can't they see that the inspector is very good but not as useful as it could be if only they put all the controls in for the track being viewed. This would save tons of resizing the track header to see the widgets in it.  Of course the track header could be any size you like and it could stay that way if the Inspector was complete. What is so hard about doing this?

Now back to your stuff.

+1 from me too.  I too have wondered why this is so ... (eratu, sorry for the hijack)