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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 01:15:34
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syntheticpop I hope there will be another update, X1c in the coming months with some additional content like they did with 8.3 I know what you mean. Speaking of additional content, did anyone watch the video of Session Drummer in X1? When I tried to follow along, the template being used wasn't in my list of available templates. It's a great time saver to have that done for you already. And it's very interesting to see how they have the busses laid out. I would have liked to have seen him go in depth more about that.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 01:19:16
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chuckebaby funny thing about track layers..i havent found any issues except for the lasso.. Me either. One feature I would like to see, would be an option to convert each layer to it's own track. That would be really handy for drums.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 01:21:15
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thats a good idea bud..i was thinking about that earlier..when iwas laying down some tracks..i figured maybe i could bounce them to tracks if i needed but that would be a shooty atempt at doing something that would be nice if possible
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 01:41:39
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Bring on X1b - we are ready....
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 01:56:04
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RogerH FastBikerBoy Please tell me that I've mis-read or mis-understood about snap settings not persisting per screenset. If they don't persist and you can't set different snap to for the TV and PRV there is now no way to jump from one setting to another easily. If the snap to can be set independently in the PRV to TV fair enough, if they can't I'm confused. That was one of the great things about screensets - independent settings. +10 Having had time to think about it, I now think I might have hopefully mis-understood Snap Settings no longer persist per-Screenset. I hope/think that refers to the snap settings in the "Snap & Nudge" dialogue which will make sense to me. I even reported it as a bug so it'd be a bit rich for me to start complaining about it.  Although I did get a reply saying it was working as intended but it would be mentioned that it could be confusing, so maybe that's what has changed. I really hope it's not the "snap-to" resolution settings, that won't make any sense at all.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 07:18:32
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I'm totally amazed by how many of those actual recognized bugs (as listed by zyler) my installation is effected by. I'm astounded because I usually don't get to see too many things at all. this time around it's like I've got 15 years worth of trouble in one release. And then there's the instability that makes work impossible.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 10:51:18
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Bub Hmmm. You're right Keni. I didn't pick up on that. I'm sure they got that lasso thingy fixed in track layers. That's kind of a biggie. ;) hehe I gotta believe that they would... and as I've said, they always pack some surprises... I hope this time is no different...
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 11:21:18
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Pretty Long List... No ones complaining keep up the work.. Fix it ALL!!!
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 12:15:12
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I'm not complaining or anything, but its awful lot of bugs to let slip through in beta testing stage in the first place.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 13:11:31
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FastBikerBoy I hope/think that refers to the snap settings in the "Snap & Nudge" dialogue which will make sense to me. I even reported it as a bug so it'd be a bit rich for me to start complaining about it. Although I did get a reply saying it was working as intended but it would be mentioned that it could be confusing, so maybe that's what has changed. I really hope it's not the "snap-to" resolution settings, that won't make any sense at all. I hope you're right FBB.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 14:38:25
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Srsly. Snap not only got totally screwed with a major bug in X1 but then Cake also merged the previously independent settings for Track View and PRV. And it seems that despite a huge chunk of the forum collectively gasping in disbelief that it's not something they're willing compromise on. I hope they have a new key cluster or some other elegant way to manage it, because it's actually more difficult now in X1 than it is in 8.5 to deal with these things, as the target area for changing this stuff is the small menu button flyout in the control bar module. Blech!
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 15:02:38
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...wicked Srsly. Snap not only got totally screwed with a major bug in X1 but then Cake also merged the previously independent settings for Track View and PRV. And it seems that despite a huge chunk of the forum collectively gasping in disbelief that it's not something they're willing compromise on. I hope they have a new key cluster or some other elegant way to manage it, because it's actually more difficult now in X1 than it is in 8.5 to deal with these things, as the target area for changing this stuff is the small menu button flyout in the control bar module. Blech! I could be wrong but I vaguely recall that CW has said it will put the snap settings back to the way there were in 8.5. I forget who it was from CW that made that statement but I believe they said they were going to look into it and do something about it. From what I gather from the list being offered to us is mostly bug fixes. In this case I don't think CW views this issue as a bug. Thus it may not be listed there. None the less, I believe it will be included into the X1b patch. If I am wrong on this my apologies.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 18:50:30
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Hm. No sign of a fix for the (reported and acknowledged) step sequencer bug whereby unlinked clips lose all MIDI CC data present in the original clip (other than velocity) yet. :-(
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Re:X1b Fix List Looking Good (UPDATED 2/11/2011) (UPDATED 2/18/2011)
2011/02/19 19:49:19
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I guess everyone has the fix they can't live without, and mine has been listed; the selecting audio clips in track folders bug. I'm happy to know that it WAS a bug, not just a 'feature', and is being fixed. I haven't run into 99% of the other bugs mentioned, so I guess I'm one of the lucky ones here. I really appreciate that Cakewalk are giving us a list like this.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 20:40:08
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Rasure I'm not complaining or anything, but its awful lot of bugs to let slip through in beta testing stage in the first place. When you think about how many issues (re:details) when programing such a massive program, this isn't as crazy as it seems... Not in defense as it could have been held longer before release... But I know that they're trapped by a release deadline in order to maintain cashflow so that the business stays afloat. So as they approach release time, they have to abandon some things they may have expected to add as they must debug as much as possible and release the best they can... It's not an easy decision... But when they cut off the feature list, it's time to find these last bugs.... These are the ones that got by the testers for one reason or another... and knowing the testing process I'm sure the testers found many other bugs that kept the team busy... ;-) Keni
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 20:46:30
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...wicked Srsly. Snap not only got totally screwed with a major bug in X1 but then Cake also merged the previously independent settings for Track View and PRV. And it seems that despite a huge chunk of the forum collectively gasping in disbelief that it's not something they're willing compromise on. I hope they have a new key cluster or some other elegant way to manage it, because it's actually more difficult now in X1 than it is in 8.5 to deal with these things, as the target area for changing this stuff is the small menu button flyout in the control bar module. Blech! I agree with John that I don't believe they consider this a bug, but a design decision/change... and they may be planning to change it, but I'm poretty sure they've said that it is fixed, but is not changed for the X1b release... (maybe X1c later this year)... The GOOD news? Download benstat's X1Helper... It currently gives two snap settings and tho they don't remember your last setting as did the 8.5 snap, it solves a lot of the itch... and one thing important it is currently missing is the ability to control the snapto/by setting, but this will be changed as soon as X1b is out... It's other limitation in this respect is that it doesn't have the measure or dotted values available for it's defaults either... So while not a total reclaim of 8.5's functions, it helps a lot... Keni
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/20 11:48:03
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Here's my quick input for the next version of X1... PLEASE, simplify the ReWire! I might be a noob but I've gone through so much trouble trying to use Reason 5 with my Sonar X1 Studio and I don't think I'm alone, even for the guys who have it running smoothly - I know they're going through alot of trouble as well. There's got to be an easier way. Thanks! =) PS. In other words, I just want Sonar X1 to be a solid host for all my sound banks, i.e, Motif Xf6, Maschine, and Reason 5 (is what I'm running)! Mykel Harrison
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/20 12:03:01
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PLEASE, simplify the ReWire! Although it's not on the X1b list as yet the bug report I submitted re stereo ins from Rewire being mono has been acknowledged and 'passed on to development'. My workaround just now is using a pre-configured template to save setting up the routings each time. It's a pain to set up in the first place but once you are up and running with your templates it's bearable.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/20 16:45:52
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So are the fixes in X1b already finalized and Zyler is just posting a snippet at a time or are more fixes being worked on and added to the list later? And how did we know that it will be available in March?
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/20 18:07:00
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syntheticpop And how did we know that it will be available in March? From Zyler's post about the update: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2222611 Our developers have been hard at work since the release of X1a and we are taking the necessary time to thoroughly test this patch. SONAR X1b is currently scheduled for release in March.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/20 22:53:49
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Well, I hope they fix whatever the heck is wrong with the PDC button/operation. I get random unrecordable latency when trying to record new parts in old 8.5.3 projects and the button doesn't do diddly squat. Or it does...but only for a minute or two. It's on. Or it's off. Seemingly at random. This is the third project this has happened in. I've had to resort to scoring parts in to these projects. This absolutely...NEVER HAPPENED IN ANY OTHER VERSION of Sonar. Ever. And still...I like X1. It hurts so good.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/20 23:02:54
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X1 has corrupted several of my 8.5.3 projects. Thank GOD I keep them on a slow external HDD and I had copied them to my C drive before opening them.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/21 01:47:09
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Bub chuckebaby funny thing about track layers..i havent found any issues except for the lasso.. Me either. One feature I would like to see, would be an option to convert each layer to it's own track. That would be really handy for drums. This is actually an EXCELLENT idea!!! There would have to be some kind of organization or refinement as to how the track layers are organized when rebuilding layers though. As of now there seems to be no rhyme or reason. Listen up Cakewalk!!!
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/21 02:02:47
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bladetragic Bub chuckebaby funny thing about track layers..i havent found any issues except for the lasso.. Me either. One feature I would like to see, would be an option to convert each layer to it's own track. That would be really handy for drums. This is actually an EXCELLENT idea!!! There would have to be some kind of organization or refinement as to how the track layers are organized when rebuilding layers though. As of now there seems to be no rhyme or reason. Listen up Cakewalk!!! There's a workaround for that. Just select the layer you want on it's own track and drag it to a blank track. Done. Or clone the track first, then delete the layer you don't want.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/21 02:06:08
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ba_midi bladetragic Bub chuckebaby funny thing about track layers..i havent found any issues except for the lasso.. Me either. One feature I would like to see, would be an option to convert each layer to it's own track. That would be really handy for drums. This is actually an EXCELLENT idea!!! There would have to be some kind of organization or refinement as to how the track layers are organized when rebuilding layers though. As of now there seems to be no rhyme or reason. Listen up Cakewalk!!! There's a workaround for that. Just select the layer you want on it's own track and drag it to a blank track. Done. Or clone the track first, then delete the layer you don't want. Or solo the layer and "bounce to track"
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/28 20:32:04
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/28 21:03:51
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I like these: - It is now possible to bind “Insert Soft Synth” in the Key Bindings page of the Preferences dialog.
- It is now possible to bind the “Media”, “Plug-Ins”, and “Synth Rack” tabs of the Browser in the Key Bindings page of the Preferences dialog.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/28 23:30:45
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C'mon PX-64 bug, c'mon... lol
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/28 23:34:53
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I'm rooting for you dimes!!
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/03/01 00:03:28
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Bub X1 has corrupted several of my 8.5.3 projects. Thank GOD I keep them on a slow external HDD and I had copied them to my C drive before opening them. That is very strange. X1 has done nothing bad to any project I have opened in it. I do save all new versions of a project with an X1 tag in the file name to let me know that I modified it with X1. I try to note which Sonar version created the file.
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