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Re:(Incomplete) list of issues addressed in SONAR X1b
2011/02/13 20:33:21
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Sorry, I never saw the 8.5 fix lists.
After 8.3.1 , I was 100% happy.
A stable system that has never locked, frozen or crashed even once in 2 years time.
So I never bothered with the upgrade.
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Re:(Incomplete) list of issues addressed in SONAR X1b
2011/02/13 20:44:29
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Fair enough Mike. Just for the record (and reference), here is the list of 8.3.1 fixes. http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/20090219 Although some people will see these lists as a negative, I don't. To me it shows that the bakers at CW don't quit. Once 8.3.1 was out - they moved on to 8.5. They spend 3 - 5 months fixing the little things (8.5.2 & 8.5.3) then moved on to X1. It's been the same pattern since I can remember.
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Re:(Incomplete) list of issues addressed in SONAR X1b
2011/02/14 03:38:34
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Seems to me that every release is "the worst ever" & "has more bugs than any other release" If that continues we'll eventually just be buying a bug.  I'm afraid if I felt that strongly about something on every release I'd do it once, maybe twice to see if things had improved. There wouldn't be a third time............
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Re:X1b Fix List Looking Good (UPDATED 2/11/2011)
2011/02/18 13:30:30
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Hope to see a truly gapless audio engine in x1b or c. I'd be happy with x1b just fixing this.
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Re:X1b Fix List Looking Good (UPDATED 2/11/2011)
2011/02/18 13:42:18
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privacy8
Hope to see a truly gapless audio engine in x1b or c. I'd be happy with x1b just fixing this.
Hi, Privacy8 - Like everyone else, I'm looking forward to X1 getting up to speed, and hopefully it will. But I'm not really sure what you mean by "a truly gapless audio engine." Do you find X1's engine more problematic than 8.5 or earlier?-- I've never had much issue with this central part of Sonar, and so I ask. Randy B.
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Re:X1b Fix List Looking Good (UPDATED 2/11/2011)
2011/02/18 15:24:27
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BUMP for latest Feb 18th update to list.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 15:41:33
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
for this version can you PLEASE have the option to turn the autoloop function off in the media browser? PLEASE?
It would be SO easy to program drums in sonar if this stupid machine gun looping didn't happen with single hit samples!!!!!! (i don't even use sonar for my main drum programmer because of this... and this ALONE)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEAAASSEEEE
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 15:50:22
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Please tell me that I've mis-read or mis-understood about snap settings not persisting per screenset. If they don't persist and you can't set different snap to for the TV and PRV there is now no way to jump from one setting to another easily. If the snap to can be set independently in the PRV to TV fair enough, if they can't I'm confused.  That was one of the great things about screensets - independent settings.
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Re:X1b Fix List Looking Good (UPDATED 2/11/2011)
2011/02/18 15:56:48
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rbowser
privacy8
Hope to see a truly gapless audio engine in x1b or c. I'd be happy with x1b just fixing this.
Hi, Privacy8 - Like everyone else, I'm looking forward to X1 getting up to speed, and hopefully it will. But I'm not really sure what you mean by "a truly gapless audio engine." Do you find X1's engine more problematic than 8.5 or earlier?-- I've never had much issue with this central part of Sonar, and so I ask.
Randy B.
I think he's talking about a certain few other DAW's that have "a truly gapless audio engine." By that he means you can basically do anything while the song is playing. You never need to turn off the track to work on it. X1 doesn't do this. It would be amazing if They could get the next versions of X1 to have "a truly gapless audio engine." Wow, that list keeps getting longer. I didn't know so many things were broken! Glad to see them working every little nook and cranny. Makes me wonder how many of those problems have led to a crash on my system.
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Re:(Incomplete) list of issues addressed in SONAR X1b
2011/02/18 16:04:51
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FastBikerBoy
Seems to me that every release is "the worst ever" & "has more bugs than any other release"
If that continues we'll eventually just be buying a bug.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 16:14:00
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elijahlucian
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
for this version can you PLEASE have the option to turn the autoloop function off in the media browser? PLEASE?
It would be SO easy to program drums in sonar if this stupid machine gun looping didn't happen with single hit samples!!!!!! (i don't even use sonar for my main drum programmer because of this... and this ALONE)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEAAASSEEEE
One-shot mode is set for X1b.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 16:33:28
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One-shot mode is set for X1b.
Great news!
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 17:49:42
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"Plug-in folders can no longer be dragged from the Browser to an FX Bin".
Huh? I was really enjoying this feature in X1. Am I missing something?
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 17:53:42
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elijahlucian
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
for this version can you PLEASE have the option to turn the autoloop function off in the media browser? PLEASE?
It would be SO easy to program drums in sonar if this stupid machine gun looping didn't happen with single hit samples!!!!!! (i don't even use sonar for my main drum programmer because of this... and this ALONE)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEAAASSEEEE
One-shot mode is set for X1b.
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Re:X1b Fix List Looking Good (UPDATED 2/11/2011) (UPDATED 2/18/2011)
2011/02/18 17:53:47
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HumbleNoise
- Snap Settings no longer persist per-Screenset
You just made me come in here, Cakewalk!!! Shame on you! I'm on sabbatical from this forum, but I checked in just to see what the X1b patch was about and this is what I find? If I'm understanding this, snap settings will still be global, but the lifeboat [namely screensets] will be taken away from us??!? yours angrily Sven ------------------------------------------------ Edited for clarity (and slightly better English)
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Re:X1b Fix List Looking Good (UPDATED 2/11/2011) (UPDATED 2/18/2011)
2011/02/18 17:58:02
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Hi Sven. :)
Bye Sven. :)
LOL!
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Re:X1b Fix List Looking Good (UPDATED 2/11/2011) (UPDATED 2/18/2011)
2011/02/18 18:39:00
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Bub... You totally crack me up... Sometimes
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Re:(Incomplete) list of issues addressed in SONAR X1b
2011/02/18 18:46:38
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Bub
FastBikerBoy
Seems to me that every release is "the worst ever" & "has more bugs than any other release"
If that continues we'll eventually just be buying a bug.
Must ... resist ... must ... fight ... urge ... to ... respond ...
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you can do it..just hang in there...it wont be long now before we have this patch and celebrate in the streets
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 18:50:57
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FastBikerBoy
Please tell me that I've mis-read or mis-understood about snap settings not persisting per screenset.
If they don't persist and you can't set different snap to for the TV and PRV there is now no way to jump from one setting to another easily. If the snap to can be set independently in the PRV to TV fair enough, if they can't I'm confused.
That was one of the great things about screensets - independent settings.
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Re:(Incomplete) list of issues addressed in SONAR X1b
2011/02/18 19:47:14
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Bub
FastBikerBoy
Seems to me that every release is "the worst ever" & "has more bugs than any other release"
If that continues we'll eventually just be buying a bug.
Must ... resist ... must ... fight ... urge ... to ... respond ...
:)
you can do it..just hang in there...it wont be long now before we have this patch and celebrate in the streets
Or have even more to b*tch about xD *cough*PX-64 *cough* 
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 20:09:59
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FastBikerBoy
Please tell me that I've mis-read or mis-understood about snap settings not persisting per screenset.
If they don't persist and you can't set different snap to for the TV and PRV there is now no way to jump from one setting to another easily. If the snap to can be set independently in the PRV to TV fair enough, if they can't I'm confused.
That was one of the great things about screensets - independent settings.
This is one of many things that should/should not be... It SHOULD be a user selectable option!
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 20:44:08
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Hi all Firstly, am currently doing most of my work in 8.5.3 and will mirgrate over [ again ] to Sonar X1 when X1b is released. The X1b list is [ so far ] looking good. However ...... I have this hard-to-explain feeling that even with all the X1b " fixes " X1 will still feel like its missing many things. I realize this is unfair given X1b is still some ~4 weeks away [ or more ] but looking thorough the list, it seems that what we will actually be getting is Sonar X1 as it should have been from Day 1. A lot of feedback and feeling has been around the removed / deleted customizations / toolbars etc.... that 8.5.3 had and is now - for reasons unkown - still going to be missing from X1b. At worst, if X1b is really just the fully-develpoped-and-stable Day One release that X1 should have been, I might stick with 8.5.3 and maybe wait for X1.1 or X1.2 to hopefully restore some of the user customizations from 8.5.3. Either way, I am looking forward to giving X1b a really good work-out - maybe I will be very pleasantly surprised and if I am, I will stick with it. If nothing else, a fully-stable-and-fully-developed-Sonar X1 will be interesting to put through its paces. Tim
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 21:09:44
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Repeat - keep expectations low - keep expectations low - now with reverb - keep expectations low....
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 21:17:09
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timboe
If nothing else, a fully-stable-and-fully-developed-Sonar X1 will be interesting to put through its paces.
Tim
I think that's a great call. IMO X1b won't fix a lot of specific desires and most likely (IMO again) won't fix some of those absolutely cannot run X1 on that system problems, but the 'stupid stuff' will be mostly working better and as intended. Whether or not what the Bakers intended and what we, as users, think they should have intended, match, will be the grist of many a 'X1b sucks' threads. I'm looking forward to the update though. (Personally up against some 'intended' behavior myself over the 'Screen Sets Snap not persisting' thing from above though. It won't ruin my X1b experieince but shaking head a bit.)
post edited by HumbleNoise - 2011/02/18 21:27:49
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/18 23:48:36
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Yes... I agree with both Larry and Tim...
I hold my expectations low... and reading the list it sounds as tho they are fixing many bugs, but not correcting what many of us see as design errors... these may or may not be addressed later, but it doesn't sound like there are any of those issues being addressed in X1b... but I must also note that I've often been very surprised by the Bakers... and it would be great impact to be giving us this huge list of bugs fixed and leave some good surprises as a knockout punch to be delivered with the patch... I don't expect, but I hope...
...and with benstat's Helper program, I'm having an easier time with a number of issues. Too bad I can't wrap my head around panups mods... I would need to create my own edits to be of comfort for me and I don't have the state of mind to deal with learning to reverse engineer. That would help make it more comfortable if I could... <sigh>...
But if more of the bugs are fixed, it's gotta be better than it is... Especially the many track-layer related issues... Lasso!!! That's gotta be a biggie and I still don't see that on the list...
Keni
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 00:02:17
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Keni
Yes... I agree with both Larry and Tim...
Especially the many track-layer related issues... Lasso!!! That's gotta be a biggie and I still don't see that on the list...
Keni
Hi Keni, It's there, you must have overlooked it. Woohoo! :) You had me worried there for a minute and I had to go back and double check. :) "Fixed an issue with selecting Clips in Track Folders." X1b is starting to look really nice! I'm excited about it. Bub.
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 00:08:41
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Bub
Keni
Yes... I agree with both Larry and Tim...
Especially the many track-layer related issues... Lasso!!! That's gotta be a biggie and I still don't see that on the list...
Keni
Hi Keni,
It's there, you must have overlooked it. Woohoo! :) You had me worried there for a minute and I had to go back and double check. :)
"Fixed an issue with selecting Clips in Track Folders."
X1b is starting to look really nice! I'm excited about it.
Bub.
Hi Bub... I'm not that sure... Reading that line tells me something was fixed related to Track FOLDERS.... I don't know if that's a typo or if it was meant track LAYERS.... and if that refers to the lasso issue.... there are a number of other issues with track layers right now.... But I'm trying to remain hopeful.... with low expectations... ;-) Keni
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 00:13:12
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Hmmm. You're right Keni. I didn't pick up on that.
I'm sure they got that lasso thingy fixed in track layers. That's kind of a biggie. ;) hehe
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 00:19:09
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not a bad list for X1b and the list will only continue to get longer with more fixes and improvements; hoping that there will be a few more features rolled out if time permits. If that's not the case, I hope there will be another update, X1c in the coming months with some additional content like they did with 8.3
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Re:X1B may actually be usable!
2011/02/19 01:09:12
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funny thing about track layers..i havent found any issues except for the lasso..then again maybe im not using evrything.or just not picking up on it.
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