Glyn Barnes
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VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
I know there is a list of compatible plugs in for 8.3 but 8.5 is a different animal and I am hoping the board can help me. I am considering the 8.5 upgrade, percussion strip is a nice to have and SD3 would probably find some use but not is essential as I have a lot of kits between EZdrummer and Kitcore, so the only real selling point for me is Bitbridge 2 (even if it is a case of five steps forward, one step back due to the Toontrack problems) and integrated Jbridge support if required so I can finally go 64 bit and get some payback on the money I invested in my computer hardware. My next big purchase will be Kontact 4 or Komplete 6 and I want to be 64 bit before taking that leap. I would be interested to know if anyone is successfully running or having problems any of these Plugins in 8.5 64 bit. Please indicate if Jbridge is needed for any, Toontrack EZ Drummer - Known issue but works with Jbridge. No need to reply. Submersible Kitcore Delux 2.0 Native Instruments B4II Guitar rig 3 XL Kontact player 3.5 Kore player Gmedia MTron Pro Minimonsta VSM Yellow Tools Independence free Musiclab Realstrat Cakewalk. Studio Instruments. Triangle SFZ+ I am assuming all the bundled stuff will be no problem. Kong Audio Chinee winds Chinee Erhu IK Multimedia Amplitude Duo Emu Protius VX ACME Bargig Specifically redshift pickup replacer but also the various *Head amp emulations Hauptwerk Hauptwerk 3.23 I am still tempted by this. I tried the free 32 bit version on 8.3.1 32 bit but it caused the VST scan to crash, even though the plugin loaded and worked. There is a 64 bit version which I hope will be more stable. Some of the free third party sample sets soud excellent but are a bit temperamental as you have to match your project settings to the sample rate used in the instrument, and this varies, but what do you expect for free?
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/24 04:03:23
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A lot of the Native Instrument stuff has been ported to native 64 bit including: Guitar Rig 3.2 & 4.0 - Maschine - Kontakt 3.5 & 4.0 - Kontakt Player 3.5 - Absynth 5 - Battery 3.0.6 - Massive 1.1.4 - FM8 The Cakewalk Studio Instrument suite is all native 64 bit as far as I know. SFZ is also native 64 bit. The only thing inside of Sonar that's still not 64 bit is: - DropZone - Dimension LE * - RXP - Beatscape - Bit Meter - Perfect Space - Vintage Channel (VC-64) - Old FX Plugin Suite ** - Dreamstation - Studioverb 2.0 However, most of these work with Bitbridge with the exception of Dreamstation, the old FX Plugin suite and the Studioverb 2.0 reverb that came out in 8.5. The rest of the plugins in your list, I'm not sure of. HTH
post edited by Jose7822 - 2009/09/24 04:06:29
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/24 07:37:44
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MinimogueVA don't work; crashes even with jBridge
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/25 00:30:43
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Bump - Any one else using any of these plugs in 8.5 64 bit? Thanks for the replies so far.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/25 00:40:54
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Glyn Barnes
Bump - Any one else using any of these plugs in 8.5 64 bit?
Native Instruments B4II - YES, no problems (through Bitbridge) Guitar rig 3 XL - YES Guitar Rig 3 standard (what's XL, the software/hardware combo?) Kontact player 3.5 - YES, native 64-bit (I use Kontakt 3.5, the Kontakt Player is basically a demo version of K3.5) Kore player - YES, but download the latest installer (even if it's the same version) because there was a mistake in earlier version and additional libraries would not install on a x64 machine. Proteus VX - YES, but you'll have to manually reload the entire library (I guess the Program Files x86 folder confuses it...)
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/25 01:01:26
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I actually was able to use Korg Legacy M1 Le for the first time from Sonar 8.5.1 64-bit today, so add that to the list. It definitely did not work in 8.3.1 64-bit
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/25 03:18:53
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32bit FX
The bundled powercore x8 FX
VSS3
Bionic Delay (manually set to Tempo Based Effect)
Breverb
CamelPhat 3
Camelspace
Soundtoys Native pack (automation not supported yet)
Density MkII
Audio Damage Discord
Audio Damage Dubstation
Dynamic Spectrum Mapper
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Audio Damage EOS
Epic Verb
Eqium, Neodynium, Firium
Flux Bittersweet
Flux Stereo Tool
Flux Recording Pack
Flux Syrah
Oxford Inflator
Oxford Transmod
PSP 608 Multidela
PSP 84 (x64 beta)
PSP Mixpack 2
PSP Vintage Warmer 1 and 2 (VW2 also x64 beta)
PSP Neon
PSP Nitro (manually set to Tempo Based Effect)
Audio Damage Replicant (manually set to Tempo Based Effect)
Rescue AE
Strobosoft VST Link
Voxengo Gliss
Voxengo Marquis
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32bit VSTi
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Glyn Barnes
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/27 02:44:54
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Thanks for the replies so far.
Anyone on my mission critical stuff - Gmedia Mtron Pro, Minimonsta, VSM, Kit Core or RealStrat. RealStrat was one of the things I could not get working in 8.3 64 bit.
As for the Kong Audo stuff (VSTi of Chinese instruments from a Chinese company - excellent!) it is a bit obscure so I think that will be a suck it and see.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/28 08:22:42
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For anyone following this thread GTGarner has confirmed in another thread RealStrat works in 8.5 64 bit using the standard bit bridge.
Getting closer..
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/28 11:22:37
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IK Multimedia's Amplitube2, AmpegVST, and X-Gear all work fine in 64-bit
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/28 11:31:49
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There is also a workaround to get Sample Tank 2 and Sinic Synth working successfully through Bitbridge.
Sup Drummer 2.2 not confirmed working with jBridge since update to Sup Drum 2.2
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/09/28 12:22:29
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mudgel
There is also a workaround to get Sample Tank 2 and Sinic Synth working successfully through Bitbridge.
Sup Drummer 2.2 not confirmed working with jBridge since update to Sup Drum 2.2
I am using Sampletank 2 just fine in 8.5.1 under x64 (Vista) - don't have JBridge yet and no workaround necessary. Would be good to know what issues users were having, and what the workaround is(?)
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 02:17:34
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Bump.
Any one tried the GMedia (M-Tron Pro, Minimonsta and VSM) in Sonar 8.5 64 Bit yet?
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 04:25:22
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No, but I can confrm that the following also work Softube's CL1B Native VST Pro Audio Dynamic Spectrum Mapper Flux Syrah Superior 2.2 (using Jbridge) the old M-Tron from G-Media
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 05:23:50
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Projects saved with ImageLine Sytrus won't load again with BitBridge. Projects saved with "jBridged" ImageLine Sytrus load up fine. I've reported this to CW, but there's something funny (not funny ha-ha) about some of the non Maxx Claster plugins from ImageLine. ImageLine Biohazard - works fine with Bitbridge ImageLine Toxic III - works fine with Bitbridge ImageLine Morphine - works fine with Bitbridge seem to be quite happy with BitBridge.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 05:26:45
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Paul Russell: Does Sytrus load up properly in SONAR with Bitbridge for you? I can add Sytrus and save a project with Sytrus, but once it's saved, I can't load the project again. Bitbridge crashes trying to load up Sytrus again.
I also have issues with some of Sytrus' GUI preset boxes getting 'stuck' on the SONAR UI after the plugin UI is closed.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 06:29:48
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It loads up ok, but I haven't done a lot of testing with it because of that silly pokey interface. On my screens I need a magnifying glass to use it.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 08:15:42
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Mtron pro runs fine.. Virtual String Machine does not.. when I try to load it I get a message that it won't run on Vista.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 08:26:45
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I know that Guitar Rig 4 is stated as being 64 bit, however I noticed that an instance of bitbridge runs for every instance of guitar rig in my project... I am very new at this and still trying to understand, but this doesn't sound right to me. Running Vista 64, Sonar 64 on a Quad AMD with 8 Gig ram
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 08:34:13
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ccmacdon
Mtron pro runs fine.. Virtual String Machine does not.. when I try to load it I get a message that it won't run on Vista.
What! VSM won't run on Vista? It's a pretty new bit of software for that to be the case. I could understand not running in a 64 bit host via bitbridge, but the much older Minimonsta runs in Vista 64 and I had it working in 8.3 64 bit at one stage before switched back to 32 because of some other issues. Good job it was a shopping list item, not something I have already. That hard earned cash heading elsewhere I think.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/04 11:43:17
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trevorst
I know that Guitar Rig 4 is stated as being 64 bit, however I noticed that an instance of bitbridge runs for every instance of guitar rig in my project...
I am very new at this and still trying to understand, but this doesn't sound right to me.
Running Vista 64, Sonar 64 on a Quad AMD with 8 Gig ram
Go to the Plugin Manager and add the folder where the 64 bit version of the GR4 .dll is stored. If you installed it in the default location, you'll find it under: C:\Program Files\Native Instruments\Guitar Rig4\VSTPlugins 64 bit Once you add this folder, re-scan all your plugins and you should be able to see it. Remember to add it to your custom plugin layout, if you use them. HTH
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/07 08:14:43
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ccmacdon
Mtron pro runs fine.. Virtual String Machine does not.. when I try to load it I get a message that it won't run on Vista.
A bit of a bump here. Has anyone run either Kitcore of Drumcore in 8.5 64 bit? Also can anyone else confirm VSM not working in Vista? Is it just Vista 64?
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/07 11:52:32
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Has anyone tried the Korg Legacy Digital Edition VST's yet (Korg M1, and Wavestation)?
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/07 13:58:17
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trevorst
I know that Guitar Rig 4 is stated as being 64 bit, however I noticed that an instance of bitbridge runs for every instance of guitar rig in my project...
I am very new at this and still trying to understand, but this doesn't sound right to me.
Running Vista 64, Sonar 64 on a Quad AMD with 8 Gig ram
Go to the Plugin Manager and add the folder where the 64 bit version of the GR4 .dll is stored. If you installed it in the default location, you'll find it under:
C:\Program Files\Native Instruments\Guitar Rig4\VSTPlugins 64 bit
Once you add this folder, re-scan all your plugins and you should be able to see it. Remember to add it to your custom plugin layout, if you use them.
HTH
It is possible that trevorst is having the same issue that I had with Guitar Rig 4: when I checked the "configure as synth" box, GR 4 shows in plugin manager but not in the VST synth menu in Sonar! Eventually I discovered where the 64-bit VSTs live in the registry, and what key had somehow not been changed: 1) go to this branch: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\c:/program files/vstplugins/Guitar Rig 4.dll 2) in the right-hand window, find registerAsSynth. It will probably say (0) at the end. Change that to a (1) and it will show. I hope this helps, trevorst.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/07 15:41:44
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Paul Russell
PSP Vintage Warmer 1 and 2 (VW2 also x64 beta)
Cool. I didn't realize PSP was on the path to 64 bit plugs. I may finally upgrade from VW1.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/21 04:18:24
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Bumping this one again.
I have posted questions on the Submersible forums about their products and the news is mixed. It seems that Drumcore crashes Sonar using bitbridge and will not find it's Audio loops when running through JBridge, It does find Midi loops and sounds and otherwise functions. I still have my fingers crossed as I use Kitcore which does not use audio loops.
A 64bit version of Drumcore was in the pipeline before Sonama Wire Works bought out Submersible. Hopefully this will still go ahead.
Also here is a quote Mudgel on another thread that has quite a bit of relevent information.
" meant that only 2 of my 32 bit plugins wont work with BitBridge 2 and require jBridge. They are Superior Drummer 2.2 and Jamstix 2.
So I have 100% 32 bit compatability with SONAR 8.5.1
Komplete 6 works native x64 except REAKTOR 5 which is 32 bit and works with bitbridge.
All IKMultimedia work with bitbridge this includes all Amplitube and Ampeg models, Sample Tank2.5xl, Miroslav, Sonic Synth, ARC, T-RACKS 3, CSR Reverb.
Line 6 POD Farm works with all model packs
All my other plugs and VSTis are native 64 bit
I'm having a really good experience now. It just all works. The problem with sup Drummer 2.2 not working with bitbridge was a big issue but solved (workaround)with jBridge even though I resent having to spend the extra money but in the grand scheme its AUD$25 when I've already spent thousands on hardware and software. "
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/21 04:51:48
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Add more that also work in x64bit SONAR 8.. all Spectrasonics and EastWest and Vienna, iZotope, WaveArts (64bit BETA), Voxengo, Virtual Guitarist 2, Melodyne Bridge,( Nomad Factory Blue-Series, only 8.5)... and so on...
I guess 90-% of all apps work!
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/21 07:47:37
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I have guitar Rig 4 Pro working native 64 bit in SONAR x64 on VISTA Ultimate (x64) SP2
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/21 11:19:18
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Phoenix
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trevorst
I know that Guitar Rig 4 is stated as being 64 bit, however I noticed that an instance of bitbridge runs for every instance of guitar rig in my project...
I am very new at this and still trying to understand, but this doesn't sound right to me.
Running Vista 64, Sonar 64 on a Quad AMD with 8 Gig ram
Go to the Plugin Manager and add the folder where the 64 bit version of the GR4 .dll is stored. If you installed it in the default location, you'll find it under:
C:\Program Files\Native Instruments\Guitar Rig4\VSTPlugins 64 bit
Once you add this folder, re-scan all your plugins and you should be able to see it. Remember to add it to your custom plugin layout, if you use them.
HTH
It is possible that trevorst is having the same issue that I had with Guitar Rig 4: when I checked the "configure as synth" box, GR 4 shows in plugin manager but not in the VST synth menu in Sonar!
Eventually I discovered where the 64-bit VSTs live in the registry, and what key had somehow not been changed:
1) go to this branch:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\c:/program files/vstplugins/Guitar Rig 4.dll
2) in the right-hand window, find registerAsSynth. It will probably say (0) at the end. Change that to a (1) and it will show.
I hope this helps, trevorst.
Thanks Phoenix... I have it working fine now, had to delete the 32 Bit version from the VST folder and rescan before it worked. Until I did that it would always load the 32 bit even though I would select the 64 bit version. Will check out the reg setting though and see what that setting is.
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Re:VSTs compatable with 8.5 64 bit
2009/10/25 09:33:12
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