when offering advice

Examples?

I think some of us chime in when something looks to be suspect advice, and our experience is telling us what is being presented is inaccurate anyway.

Speaking as a 'hands-on' forum user that is...

If answers were only given by persons who have experienced and solved the problem in question, you'd have to wait for the answers for weeks and weeks, I'm sure.

I give routineously advice based on what I've read on the forum, and never tried or encountered myself. Many problems are so strange that there is no way of approach other than assumption, especially considering the very variyng verbal/litteral skills of our international team.

Example: I've never experienced the skipping MIDI-notes-problem due to low MIDI-preparation buffer, but the advice to raise the buffer I've given at least 100 times.

Ditto to everything above.   If every forum member followed this process...
 

i'd please advise anyone offering advice to be coming from personal experience rather than assumption/hearsay

 
...answers would likely slow to a crawl, and in some cases probably never be given at all. 
 
As someone who's done software tech support for over 14 years now, troubleshooting is more than first-hand experience. It's also using your internal knowledgebase to deduce solutions for problems that do not have stock answers.   Always has been.
 

What I would like to see is when a poster starts a thread asking for feedback they stay around to answer questions. I have seen way too many threads where forum members have offered advice but are hampered by a lack of responsiveness from the OP. People are eager to help but they can't be as effective if its a one way dialog.

There was a thread I started on how to get help that was turned into a sticky in the old Sonar forum and then rolled into a general FAQ thread.

Perhaps we need a new "how to get help" thread here.  

sorry all, that was unnecessary, it's been a long day 8-S

I usually only chime in on threads I have experience with. If I don't and it's an opinion/suggestion I try and make that clear in my answer.

Of course taking any thing written on the internet as gospel probably isn't the wisest thing in the world and should be weighted according to your trust in the source.

daryl1968


Of course taking any thing written on the internet as gospel probably isn't the wisest thing in the world and should be weighted according to your trust in the source.
:)
Wise words FBB

They would have been if Karl hadn't said them...

daryl1968

Jonbouy

daryl1968


Of course taking any thing written on the internet as gospel probably isn't the wisest thing in the world and should be weighted according to your trust in the source.
:)
Wise words FBB

They would have been if Karl hadn't said them...

Harsh.............. but fair ^TM 

I think this forum works a little better than most as it seems to have a better collection of very helpful people who will take the time to figure stuff out. Look at any thread and you will see 80% of the people just read, and 20% might answer. I will not answer anything I'm not sure of unless it sits with a zero for a few hours and then will answer with a " this is just a guess" or something disclaiming my knowledge level of topic. And how many of us have simply answered threads via looking the answer up on Google for the lazy buggers :>

CJaysMusic

sorry all, that was unnecessary, it's been a long day 8-S

Did you actually have a long day or did you read that someone was having a hard day?
 
Sorry, I could not resist!
 
CJ

I often quote the manual. You don't need hands on experience to quote the answer from the manual. I also remember answers from people on topics I've never experienced. The search function outside of the forum via google is quite good too. I think most people make it obvious if it's something they haven't actually experienced. You could be in for a long wait if you wait for only people who have actually experienced it.

The good news is that this community is alive and well.

We are lucky. I have noticed that we have some relatively new members that have impressed me with the quality of their posts.

I have written threads pointing out solid members that deserve some acknowledgement for how hard they work to answer question and how accurate they have been in their answers.

A new group has come along and they too deserve recognition for their contributions.

One is Rimshot another is Johnny.

They are not alone but both have bothered to post in this thread with some solid thoughts.  Thoughts we can all learn from.

The quote above brought this into focus for me and I thought it was time to let my opinion of them be shared.

In my view I don't know what prompted this thread but I see the outcome as extremely positive. It is due not to the long time members which I have many times noted their contributions here but to the newer members that make that quote so true.

With you Rimshot and Johnny we have nothing to fear about this forum dying from a lack of solid, quality and thoughtful posts.

I would like others that have read a posting from a newer member to also list them here if they were impressed by them.

Its not just what was posted here that brought this notion to me. Rather it was many posts from these two that is impressive to me.  Keep up the good work!

   
 

John

The good news is that this community is alive and well.

We are lucky. I have noticed that we have some relatively new members that have impressed me with the quality of their posts.

I have written threads pointing out solid members that deserve some acknowledgement for how hard they work to answer question and how accurate they have been in their answers.

A new group has come along and they too deserve recognition for their contributions.

One is Rimshot another is Johnny.

They are not alone but both have bothered to post in this thread with some solid thoughts.  Thoughts we can all learn from.

The quote above brought this into focus for me and I thought it was time to let my opinion of them be shared.

In my view I don't know what prompted this thread but I see the outcome as extremely positive. It is due not to the long time members which I have many times noted their contributions here but to the newer members that make that quote so true.

With you Rimshot and Johnny we have nothing to fear about this forum dying from a lack of solid, quality and thoughtful posts.

I would like others that have read a posting from a newer member to also list them here if they were impressed by them.

Its not just what was posted here that brought this notion to me. Rather it was many posts from these two that is impressive to me.  Keep up the good work!

 

That Strummy bloke is pretty helpful.
 
He has a couple of stickies floating about.
 
And some helpful threads that were permanently added to the top of forums.
 
He's not new though.
 
 
 
 
Oh no.
 
 

alexoosthoek

John


What I would like to see is when a poster starts a thread asking for feedback they stay around to answer questions . I have seen way too many threads where forum members have offered advice but are hampered by a lack of responsiveness from the OP. People are eager to help but they can't be as effective if its a one way dialog.

There was a thread I started on how to get help that was turned into a sticky in the old Sonar forum and then rolled into a general FAQ thread.

Perhaps we need a new "how to get help" thread here.  

Yes, me too.

I remember a thread I was on with a new user that went to multiple pages. I stayed with him because he was very responsive. We did sort out his problem but it was only possible because he stayed around. Also he was very nice and brought out my better nature. I got the impression he was genuinely trying. He was one happy camper when things started to fall into place for him and it was worth the effort.

To a degree you get back what you put in.

John

The good news is that this community is alive and well.

We are lucky. I have noticed that we have some relatively new members that have impressed me with the quality of their posts.

I have written threads pointing out solid members that deserve some acknowledgement for how hard they work to answer question and how accurate they have been in their answers.

A new group has come along and they too deserve recognition for their contributions.

One is Rimshot another is Johnny.

They are not alone but both have bothered to post in this thread with some solid thoughts.  Thoughts we can all learn from.

The quote above brought this into focus for me and I thought it was time to let my opinion of them be shared.

In my view I don't know what prompted this thread but I see the outcome as extremely positive. It is due not to the long time members which I have many times noted their contributions here but to the newer members that make that quote so true.

With you Rimshot and Johnny we have nothing to fear about this forum dying from a lack of solid, quality and thoughtful posts.

I would like others that have read a posting from a newer member to also list them here if they were impressed by them.

Its not just what was posted here that brought this notion to me. Rather it was many posts from these two that is impressive to me.  Keep up the good work!

 

What about me John I can't put enough smiley faces up, I try though
I'm just not that good at explaing myself.
 
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